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Forum topic by KAZman posted 09-09-2009 03:23 PM 6598 views 0 times favorited 30 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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KAZman

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09-09-2009 03:23 PM

Hello:
Today is my first day, here, and I plan to become a regular visitor / contributor.
I found this great site trying to get real feedback and reviews on a new bandsaw. I luckily found great info on my “front runner”—Steel City’s Deluxe 14”, but after reading the review and resulting inputs I think I will keep shopping.
I’d REALLY appreciate YOUR thoughts and recommendations.
I’m reasonably novice at woodworking but have built a reasonably nice shop with some decent tools but like many I bought a few tools before I really knew what I wanted or needed. I’ve upgraded everything but the bandsaw ……....... I really want the ability to resaw some great walnut I’ve found … and I found quite a bit.
And I want the ability to cut out some interesting curves for making a few furniture pieces.
So, I guess my “wish list” would include:
>10” resaw capability but, ideally, without a riser kit
Ideally 110V ……..... another 220V outlet will add about $100 to my cost.
Quality dust extraction (4” preferred)
Great bearings
Great resaw fence (included)
I’ve looked at Grizzly, JET, and Rikon (and of course Steel City) but don’t really feel I know what to buy.
Folks——I would really appreciate your input.
Thank you, in advance …….. KAZman

-- KAZman, Hot Springs Village, Arkansas


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Scott Bryan

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#1 posted 09-09-2009 03:31 PM

I just sent you a PM.

One point I would add is that unless you are willing to go with a large bandsaw, without a riser a 14” model can only resaw 6” material. To resaw >10” with a 14” model you have to add a riser. These are easy to put on, although you do need a helping hand to hold the saw head while bolting it on (I know this first hand) :) and cost less than $100.

Another point I would offer is that, irrespective of the model, get rid of the blade that comes with the saw and the riser. These are poor quality blades at best and replace it with a quality blade such as a Timberwolf or Woodslicer.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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Walnut_Weasel

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#2 posted 09-09-2009 03:36 PM

I have a 14” Jet with a closed base. I love it! Though as Scott said, you want a Timberwolf or Woodslicer regardless. I also had to replace my throat plate with an aftermarket. ($10 for 3 plates)

I should point out that I don’t have experience with any other 14” saw so my opinion is obviously not great. But what I can say is that I have already resawn up to 6” and the machine seems to have plenty of power left and once I got the Timberwolf blade, there is really no drift to speak of.

-- James - www.walnutweasel.wordpress.com

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poroskywood

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#3 posted 09-09-2009 03:37 PM

KAZ, Just got the GO514X2 19” from Grizzly. It fits all of your requirements. Here's some stuff I have done with it in the first week. I have also resawed 10” Curly Maple no problem with a 1” 3tpi timberwolf band. It has been a Great investment I can grow with I can’t believe I would ever want more. I paid $1330 at the store I believe they are also offering Free Shipping on this saw. Good Luck

-- There's many a slip betwixt a cup and a lip.--Scott

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rustfever

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#4 posted 09-09-2009 03:55 PM

Just my experiences…....I started with a 10” Delta, [ca 1960] and find it with limitations. I still have this tool but now it is dedicated to scroll work type projects, using 1/4”-3/8” blades.

Next was my biggest mistake. 18” Grizzley [ca 2002]. Found it impossible to adjust AND KEEP IT ACCURATE. It was out of balance and Grizzly would not accnowledge the problem. I gave away [free] to relatative to do very rough work [lost $1,000 on that tool].

Now have 16” Laguna LT [ca 2007]. I resaw, and do large curved projects with 5/8” to 1.25” blades. I find this saw to fill every need, including table adjustments for beveled cutting. I use their branded resaw blade [carbide] and find it accurate, with almost no teeth marks on the wood. No wobble, or vibration as was very notible in the Grizzly product.

Spend the money to get a GOOD tool. Spend the money only once.

Just my two-cents worth
Ira

-- Rustfever, Central California

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KAZman

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#5 posted 09-09-2009 04:01 PM

WOW:
G R E A T responses and thoughts …... THANK you!!!
I think I’ve got it down to a Grizzly …. I just left their web site trying to narrow down the model. Looks like I’ll need another 220v outlet that I don’t currently have, but I should be able to con a friend into doing it.
The free shipping is really an enticement. I think I want the mobile base for it as well….. Small shop!!!
Keep the thoughts coming!!!

-- KAZman, Hot Springs Village, Arkansas

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Todd A. Clippinger

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#6 posted 09-09-2009 04:08 PM

I use the G0513 and love it. It is a 17” model and costs less than the G0514 models. I find the 17” throat capacity to be sufficient for my needs. It is much better than the 14” capacity.

I do a fair amount of resawing and it works great. The dust collection really works on it. It is a great machine for the money.

This has a 2 hp 220v motor with plenty of power.

SV100809

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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Todd A. Clippinger

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#7 posted 09-09-2009 04:15 PM

There is some bandsaw action in this video, it is not resawing but you can see it in action on one of my projects.

I bought the resaw fence as an extra but never use it. I can freehand my veneer cuts very accurately.

Impressive.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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Todd A. Clippinger

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#8 posted 09-09-2009 04:17 PM

Found another one-

Look at that cut line! Freehand with a TimberWolf silicone steel blade.

Resawing the Wood

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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KAZman

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#9 posted 09-09-2009 04:33 PM

Todd:
Thanks for the great info!!!
You got me to go to the Grizzly site and read about the GO513 in detail.
Since I’m really less versed than most of you I’m reading EVERYTHING I can get my hands on. I think I’m close to a purchase!!!
To me it’s down to the GO457 (free shipping), and one of the GO513 models.
How big of a deal is the cast iron trunnions? Are you in favor of a mobile base?
Are you happy with the resaw fence included? I’ll definitely buy the Timberwolf or Woodslicer blade(s). I guess I’ll read up on which one after I decide on the model of the Bandsaw.
Thanks ALL!!!

-- KAZman, Hot Springs Village, Arkansas

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PurpLev

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#10 posted 09-09-2009 04:38 PM

I’ll second the euro-style (full steel frame construction – as opposed to the american 2 parts cast iron frames that require risers) bandsaws also.

the Grizzlies as Todd suggested have a good number of saws to select from (14”,17”,18”) which all seem to be getting good reviews. another good saw is the Rikon 14'' deluxe bandsaw which also gets rave reviews and is capable of 13” resaw out of the box.

I personally can also vouch for the WoodSlicer (1/2’’ wide) blades which produces a beautiful cut for resawing and general sawing.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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Todd A. Clippinger

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#11 posted 09-09-2009 04:42 PM

I have aluminum wheels and I have good service out of them. I would agree that the cast iron wheels make a difference. The weight dampens vibration and the weight creates inertia that keeps going when the wood is thick or hard. It makes it harder to slow down the blade in such wood. Cast iron wheels would be a good choice.

I have a mobile base and would recommend it.

OK I just read your last post again. Do you mean cast iron trunnions or wheels?

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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PurpLev

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#12 posted 09-09-2009 04:43 PM

forgot to mention – cast iron trunnions can support a heavier load which is especially critical for resawing larger lumber – the table will not lose it’s position, and will not vibrate = smoother cut.

also try to avoid wheels which are not cast iron – as those will have less mass and the result is a less powerful bandsaw (Even if the motor is the same)

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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KAZman

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#13 posted 09-09-2009 04:46 PM

Todd:
According to Grizzly’s description of their GO513X2 it says “trunnions” ..... but then goes on to tout cast iron wheels vs the aluminum on the standard 513.

-- KAZman, Hot Springs Village, Arkansas

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Todd A. Clippinger

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#14 posted 09-09-2009 04:47 PM

PurpLev’s comment on the wheels is a good addition to my statement. I bought my unit with aluminum wheels because it was on sale at the time, I fall victim to budget constraints as well.

They make the G0513X2 with cast iron wheels.

There are some good bandsaws out there. Good Luck with your decision!

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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Todd A. Clippinger

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#15 posted 09-09-2009 05:01 PM

I just checked my bandsaw. The trunnion is not cast iron but is steel and it looks fairly substantial. I am not worried about it. I would agree that the G0513X2 unit is an obvious upgrade overall, especially for the reasons stated on the cast iron wheels.

I operate as a small pro shop and get good service out of the G0513. How good? I have had it for about 5 years now, but only time will tell.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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