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06-01-2015 12:39 AM

I’m in bad need of one,
I’m looking at the Oneway but my lathe has a gap bed.
I don’t think it will work when doing shallow bowls, I can’t get the tool rest close enough with it on.
Anyone run in to this?
If so, how did you make it work?
Thanks as always.
Rick

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#1 posted 06-01-2015 01:54 PM

Hi, Rick, I looked at the oneway steady rest after seeing your post. It almost looks like you could set it up at an angle, the adjust the wheels where they would be 90° to your work. Of course, you would be losing a little distance from center, but it would at least span the gap.

On the oneway site, at the very bottom of each page describing the SR, there was a line about gap beds, but no information on what to do.

I just made mine and set it up yesterday. It’s made of 2×2 steel from a lumber rack I had in my shop when I was actively engaged in a woodworking business.

I set it up to where I can put the wheels on either side of it, and gain about 3” either side. That’s 2” for the frame, 1/2” for the arms, and 1/2” to the center of the wheels.

The 3 arms are not locked in at specific angles, so it can be adjusted to any location on the OD of the work piece…... ...... . ....... Jerry (in Tucson)

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#2 posted 06-01-2015 05:38 PM

I assume you are talking about the two wheel like this…
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/143740/OneWay-Bowl-Steady.aspx

One method may be to buy one of the release magnetic blocks. I’m sure someone sells them; they typically have a lever to lock/unlock the magnet. This is the way most dial indicators and other quick mount items work. They can be plenty strong to use in the gap and hold the steady banjo. I think they make them for welders among other trades.

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#3 posted 06-01-2015 07:13 PM

If it’s the one in the link Lee put … why can’t you just clamp that base into the bottom of the gap on your lathe?

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#4 posted 06-01-2015 07:54 PM

Hi Jerry,
The problem is that the banjo sits at the edeg of the gap, no room for the steady to bolt down.

Hey Lee,
I don’t know if that would work, the gap is radius at the bottom.

Joe,
No place to clamp down, the cabinet that holds the motor is under the gap.
By the way, nice new lathe. You Suck.!

Thanks Guys,
Guess I need a new lathe. ;-)

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#5 posted 06-01-2015 10:58 PM

OK, my next idea that probably won’t work.
Attached is a pic of my shop made banjo for my dust collector. In this picture it is mounted from the underside of the banjo (it is normally mounted from the top).
If you made a U shaped post with a short upright on the right side it could go across under the toolrest banjo then back up (the shopmade banjo would be to the right of the toolrest banjo and not interfere with it). You can have a straight post for when it can be mounted to the left of the toolrest banjo.
Decided to post one from under and one normal.
My post holes are the same because sometimes I want to use the collector and still have the factory tool rest to rest the drill on while sanding.
Should be fairly inexpensive to make one out of angle iron, post, locking levers, and skate wheels. Lots of plans on line but probably not any weird like my idea.


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#6 posted 06-01-2015 11:53 PM



Hi Jerry,
The problem is that the banjo .

Yeah Rick, I also noticed that yesterday on my trial set up. I need to have my wits about me to use it.. ...... Jerry (in Tucson)

Joe,

By the way, nice new lathe. You Suck.!

- Rick Bailey


-- Jerry (in Tucson)

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#7 posted 06-02-2015 12:04 AM


Hi Jerry,
The problem is that the banjo .

Yeah Rick, I also noticed that yesterday on my trial set up. I need to have my wits about me to use it.. ...... Jerry (in Tucson)

Joe,

By the way, nice new lathe. You Suck.!

- Rick Bailey

- Nubsnstubs

Huh???

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#8 posted 06-02-2015 12:17 AM

What model lathe do you have? Is it the one you have in your photos of your workshop? (I’m trying to figure out a way to modify a clamping system that might work. and I need to visualize what you have)

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#9 posted 06-02-2015 12:24 AM

Hey Joe,
Here some pics.

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#10 posted 06-02-2015 12:52 AM

Ok. I can see 2 viable options in your situation…

1. The curved portion of the bed is flanked by 2 flat sections. You could easily drill and tap 1/4-20 holes in the top of those 2 flat areas and bolt the bowlrest directly to the bed. It would easily unbolt when not needed. I drilled and tapped a couple holes in the cast iron legs of my new lathe, it was easy to do, just used a lot of oil on the tap.

2. Make a “clamp” that will slip down over that flat-curve-flat section and mount the bowl rest to the top of it. Three pieces of scrap oak glued in the shape of a “C-clamp” Threaded rod tightens it against the front of the bed, bowl rest mounted to the top of the wooden clamp.

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#11 posted 06-02-2015 01:01 AM



Ok. I can see 2 viable options in your situation…

1. The curved portion of the bed is flanked by 2 flat sections. You could easily drill and tap 1/4-20 holes in the top of those 2 flat areas and bolt the bowlrest directly to the bed. It would easily unbolt when not needed. I drilled and tapped a couple holes in the cast iron legs of my new lathe, it was easy to do, just used a lot of oil on the tap.

2. Make a “clamp” that will slip down over that flat-curve-flat section and mount the bowl rest to the top of it. Three pieces of scrap oak glued in the shape of a “C-clamp” Threaded rod tightens it against the front of the bed, bowl rest mounted to the top of the wooden clamp.

- JoeinGa

Now dog gone it Joe,
I was hopping you would say I was going to have to buy a new lathe like you got. ;-0

I think about that though.

I’m new at this so I’ll check out all options.

It may just I don’t know what I’m doing.;-0

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#12 posted 06-02-2015 02:18 AM

Huh???

- Rick Bailey

Hi Jerry,
The problem is that the banjo .

Yeah Rick, I also noticed that yesterday on my trial set up. I need to have my wits about me to use it.. ...... Jerry (in Tucson)

Joe,

By the way, nice new lathe. You Suck.!

- Rick Bailey

- Nubsnstubs


Rick, I was trying to be creative by using your quotes to me and Joe, but the system decided it was going to do it’s own thing. It didn’t work like I thought it would.

I discovered that my banjo gets in the way of my mounting plate on the SR that I just made, or maybe, the SR gets in the way of the banjo. Either way, it will take a little planning to use when it’s needed…. Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson)

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hairy

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#13 posted 06-02-2015 11:31 AM

This might help. http://www.turnrobust.com/product/tool-rest-dog-leg/

Put your bowl steady where the banjo is in your picture. Put the dog leg into the banjo, tool rest into the dog leg. It will extend the reach of the tool rest.

Just a thought…

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#14 posted 06-04-2015 09:56 PM



This might help. http://www.turnrobust.com/product/tool-rest-dog-leg/

Put your bowl steady where the banjo is in your picture. Put the dog leg into the banjo, tool rest into the dog leg. It will extend the reach of the tool rest.

Just a thought…

- hairy

hairy,
I like that dog leg, but my banjo is 3/4.

I think I solved my own problem.
I post some pics tonight.

-- I'll bulid your dream,you tear it down.

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