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Forum topic by DocSavage45 posted 05-31-2015 01:39 AM 967 views 0 times favorited 26 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-31-2015 01:39 AM

Topic tags/keywords: drill press forstner bits question

Hey fellow LJ’s,

Trying to finish up a Drill Press Table I am building, I was using a forstner bit which I got in a kit from You Guessed iI, Harbor Freight. and I checked out on line, guess what, they don’t carry the set I purchased some years ago. I commented on another forum topic about my plan was to start w/Harbor Freight and when I was ready move up to a more professional grade tool. As Randy/aka Blackie said “I should have bought better tools when I started.”

Asking for some guidance, knowledge and opinions about price,and quality, as well as type of steel preferred?

As always your comments, humor and guidance is always appreciated

Tom/aka DocSavage45

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher


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woodbutcherbynight

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#1 posted 05-31-2015 01:44 AM

I keep a set of cheap ones from HF for general use, like through a 2×4 for some plumbing or pipe work. Or for things you probably should not use them for and will tear them up doing so. The other set set me back a buck but they work very smooth, can’t recall if they are carbide or not.

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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#2 posted 05-31-2015 01:59 AM

As Randy/aka Blackie said “I should have bought better tools when I started.”

Pearls of wisdom right there ^

Let’s see here we have

Colt from Infinity:
http://www.infinitytools.com/COLT-Forstner-Sets/products/1931/

Zobo from Festool:

http://www.bobmarinosbesttools.com/zobo-forstner-style-bits-imperial-5-8-1-1-2-5pc/p/500174/

Porter Cable:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_306070-70-PC1014___?productId=3032014&pl=1&Ntt=porter+cable+forstner+bits#BVRRWidgetID

I’ve had better luck than most with the porter cable set and tried a Colt and it was different like
night & day.

Seems the Colt just works better. If I was doing a lot of Forstner drilling I’d get Festool in a heart beat.

The one Bosch bit have works well but it’s not used often as it’s a left hand cutter.

Never used a carbide one so can’t help you there.

Waho
All the Best

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#3 posted 05-31-2015 02:07 AM

Waho,

My eyes got big when I looked at Colt, LOL!

Thanks

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#4 posted 05-31-2015 02:08 AM

woodbutcherbynight,

Do you sharpen yours?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#5 posted 05-31-2015 02:16 AM

Mine are all steel except for the couple I have for hidden hinges, they are both carbide. One is almost new and the other well worn, surprisingly the worn one will still cut MDF or thin veneered plywood without burning or excessive feed force required.

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#6 posted 05-31-2015 02:17 AM

I never seen a carbide set. I sharpen mine, Captain Eddie has a video on you tube on how to sharpen them.

-- Tom D

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#7 posted 05-31-2015 02:55 AM

You’re welcome Doc!

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#8 posted 05-31-2015 11:50 AM

Up to a point, the problem is the speed at which they are being used, rather than the quality, as shown here, for a Hobbyist some cheap bits are fine, and forking out for professional bits is unnecessary and expensive. For the amount I use one, I rather buy cheaper bits and throw them away, once I am unable to resharpen them.

-- If you want the rainbow, you got to put up with the rain - Steven Wright

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#9 posted 05-31-2015 01:30 PM

I’ve had the Freud carbide set for almost 20 years, I’ve had them sharpened once. They really are long lived and excellent bits. But I also have a handful of Freud HSS bits, and they do cut more cleanly than the carbide. My first set was a cheap chinese set from AMT (anyone remember them?) and i can “sharpen” them myself, they are used in soft wood only. Point of reference, when I bought my Freud carbide set I think it was about $80….I choked then but now it sure seems cheap compared to today’s price. I can say this: those carbide bits have drilled a lot of holes in all sorts of tough material, including plastic laminate, MDF, and other materials normally tough on tooling and they have really held up well.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#10 posted 05-31-2015 01:52 PM

but the colts are on sale…from 330 to 319, gosh you cant beat such a deal, you can look at that nice hole and just know it was drilled with precision and oh how smooth…..LOL….well…i use the porter cable ones, i can buy a new set for 40 bucks if needed….i could never justify tht kind of money for a drill bit…..not in this lifetime…..for as often as you use them, just stay in the lower prices…thats my advice….

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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woodbutcherbynight

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#11 posted 05-31-2015 03:26 PM



woodbutcherbynight,

Do you sharpen yours?

Not the cheap ones, those are usually destroyed as one might expect for using them improperly. The others I have never had need they have remained sharp for many years. The Colt ones were a bit high priced for my blood. LOL

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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#12 posted 05-31-2015 03:27 PM


woodbutcherbynight,

Do you sharpen yours?

- DocSavage45

Not the cheap ones, those are usually destroyed as one might expect for using them improperly. The others I have never had need they have remained sharp for many years. The Colt ones were a bit high priced for my blood. LOL

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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#13 posted 05-31-2015 04:36 PM

TomD,

I checked out Captin Eddie when I figured out how dull the bit really was, Also when I looked at the edge. In his video, I think he starts with a better bit and he uses a diamond honing card from HF, which I don’t have, before posting this.

Something I need to think about with all my cutting tools? LOL! Or they become dangerous!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#14 posted 05-31-2015 04:42 PM

Phil,

As I said to TomD, gotta put sharpening these puppies right along with all my “need sharpening to be safe tools.” I checked out the reference on speed to run the bits. Hey now I have to figure out my drill press too? Guess I do. Thanks.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#15 posted 05-31-2015 04:48 PM

Fred,

I did check Amazon before posting, and checked your reference Those I’m sure are quality bits. 147 dollars for 5.

True they lasted you a lifetime, but I might go with Porter Cable which has a high Amazon rating but sell cheaper at Lowes.

Looking at the carbide bits..they seem to have a different cutting head than standard hardened steel?

Thanks

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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