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09-04-2009 08:45 PM |
Topic tags/keywords: sawstop table saw used table saw used price industrial cabinet saw sawstop industrial cabinet saw cb53480 I recently came across a sawstop industrial cabinet saw (CB53480)—it’s a 5 horse, 3 phase 480v machine, w/ 52” extension table & fence included. i called sawstop and got some info about the previous owner and found out it was probably used in a production capacity since may ‘06. my shop is setup w/ single phase power, so at the advice of the sawstop technician i would be buying a 3hp, 1ph motor to replace what’s in there now (~$300). the place selling the saw wants $2600 for the saw. what do you guys think a good price for the machine is? Thanks in advance. -john |
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#1 posted 09-04-2009 08:51 PM |
IIRC, a new SS 3hp single phase cab saw is in the $3500 range, so $2900 for used with a new motor seems a bit high. I suppose you could sell the 5hp 3-phase motor, but they typically don’t bring a premium. I’d guess you’d still be looking at ~ $2700 out of pocket. You might see how they respond to an offer of $2300. -- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.... |
#2 posted 09-04-2009 09:08 PM |
Thanks, scott. i was thinking offering something around 2k for it. i can probably sell the motor on there now, but the price is definitely not a certainty… |
#3 posted 09-04-2009 09:19 PM |
I bought one of the Professional Cabinet saws in April and had been considering the Industrial model before this series came out. I priced the Industrial saw- saw with accessories, shipping, delivery and taxes- at $4800 for a 5HP 220v machine with 52” rails, extension table and a mobile base from Woodcraft. For used tools, if they are in good shape, 1/2 of list is not an unreasonable price to pay. But, in this case, you also need to factor in the cost of the motor as well. Scott does make a good point though. For about 20% more, if your budget will allow it, you can buy a new Professional model outright. It is a little lighter weight than the industrial model but has nearly all of the same features except the motor selection. It only comes in a 3HP model. -- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine |
#4 posted 09-04-2009 09:27 PM |
3Phase 480 volts?? , 3phase 360 or 3phase 408 maybe must be something outside the country. |
#5 posted 09-04-2009 09:29 PM |
I like the sawstop saws…but it seems a little bit or more for less here? For less then what you are considering, you could buy a brand new top line powermatic, jet, delta or Grizzly…and still have some left over for some nice assessories, like a WWII blade, a nice Dado Set, etc…etc. I know the saw stop has that great safety feature…which I believe should probably be on every saw sold….but considering the fact that most of us have used table saws without this adaptation for many years without incident…I would still think hard about paying so much of a premium for it, just my .02 cents… -- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven! |
#6 posted 09-04-2009 10:08 PM |
FYI GMman; 3phase 480 volts 60 hz. and 3 phase 460 volts 60 hz. are VERY standard voltages in USA. Viking – Colorado County, Texas -- Rick Gustafson - Lost Creek Ranch - Colorado County, Texas |
#7 posted 09-05-2009 01:09 AM |
Viking is right Gman, I use a lot of 3phase 480V in our plant here in the USA. |
#8 posted 09-05-2009 01:33 AM |
I wonder if the motor is also a 3 phase 240 Volt, Because you could use a phase converter and generate that in house and not have to replace the motor. -- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware soon moving to Virginia karsonwm@gmail.com † |
#9 posted 09-05-2009 04:43 AM |
FYI, I just bought the Pro model new from Woodcraft. I had an aftermarket biesemeyer fence from my first saw, and the Woodcraft owner sold me the Pro without a fence (they cannot do this as a pre-order, only if they order the saw as a stock part. Some OSHA law or something). So the saw (no fence), dado cartridge + dado insert, extra std cartridge and insert + tax and delivery came to just under $3K here in CA. In CA, the resale on the SawStops is very high, if you can even find one used. I did not see one in Northern CA on Craigslist in the last 8 months. I have not had any time on my saw yet (bolted the fence on yesterday) but it certainly beats my 20 year old craftsman contractor’s saw. Also, having just read the manual, SawStop emphasized that you should not use another motor. I would contact them and find out if doing so will cause problems. |
#10 posted 09-05-2009 04:58 PM |
to answer some of the above— ADVERTISING & DEMAND: not sure about local demand, but it may be on the high side. only one way to find out! MOTORS AND VOLTAGE: OTHER SAWS: PROFESSIONAL VS. INDUSTRIAL: |
#11 posted 09-05-2009 05:10 PM |
I had an electrician friend make me a 3 phase converter using a 20hp motor and some various elec items we got from salvage. May have spent 500 bucks total. Works great for 3 years now. -- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one" |
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