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Underdog

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05-28-2015 12:52 PM

I’m just wondering what is your best source of information for shop organization?
Book, video, online class, workshop?

I was saving up for a certain software, but found that I’m not having fun, and taking way to much time to make projects, in my shop because I’m constantly moving something to get to something else… And then moving it again, because it was in the way…
So…
I decided I’d invest in the shop instead.

Your best source for shop organization? For dummies like me? I’m not good at it like some who can do such things on the fly…

-- "woodworker with an asterisk"


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hotbyte

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#1 posted 05-28-2015 01:02 PM

I’ve not incorporated this into my shop but have used the concepts for work related projects.

5S Method

These are videos from the Down to Earth Woodworker on using 5S in his shop.
Shop Tour & 5S Strategies
Shop Tour & 5S Strategies - Part 2

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#2 posted 05-28-2015 01:53 PM

I think the 5s method has lots of good points,I would add ,think about how you use your tools and equipment,as an example something you use every day should be in a convenient location with plenty of room to use that tool.as an example your table saw might fall in that category. Items you seldom use can be put on harder to get places like upper shelves. Think about the flow of work,for instance many times when milling material you will joint one edge of your wood and then saw it on a table saw,so you don’t want your table saw and jointer far apart. If I had a place to store wood out of the shop that would free up a lot of space. A simple thing like have a space for everything and everything in it’s place makes work much easier. In order to keep things off the floor like cords and air hoses install more outlets and places to connect to your air supply. I like to place my compressor and dust collection outside to help keep things quieter and as far as compressors go it makes it safer due to the possibility of explosion(tank blowing up)

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Underdog

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#3 posted 05-28-2015 01:55 PM

Well first I think I should get all the scrap wood out of there… It’s so bad that I literally need an intervention…

-- "woodworker with an asterisk"

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#4 posted 05-28-2015 04:56 PM

I would also require an intervention to get rid of my lumber pile(s)!
I have a difficult time tossing things, scrap wood or hardware!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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JAAune

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#5 posted 05-29-2015 04:47 AM

Think workcells and flow. The book Lean Thinking: Banish Waste and Create Wealth in Your Corporation will help you understand the mindset.

5S is one of the methods discussed in that book since it’s part of the lean concept.

Don’t do a machine room, a hand tools room, a wood storage room, etc. Instead, position everything in project-related order. Overhaul the shop by shoving everything you aren’t actively using to one corner of the shop. As you work and find uses for those items, they are assigned a home wherever needed.

Avoid gigantic fixtures unless they’re absolutely necessary for a specific task. Instead, create small, moveable items with handles or wheels so they can be re-positioned quickly.

Perhaps sometime I’ll take some pictures around the shop and give real-world examples of efficient work areas.

-- See my work at http://remmertstudios.com and http://altaredesign.com

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#6 posted 05-29-2015 05:51 AM

...I m constantly moving something to get to something else… And then moving it again, because it was in the way…
- Underdog
Well first I think I should get all the scrap wood out of there… It s so bad that I literally need an intervention…
- Underdog

Wait, are we sharing the same shop!!

I’m dangerously close to pulling everything out, and I mean everything. What I’ve found in the past is that when you remove everything, you are loathe to put anything back that doesn’t need to be there.

And yes, I too am drowning in wood.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#7 posted 05-29-2015 09:22 AM

There are lot of online resources for home improvements skills but last 2 years i always visit only one resource to improve my skills : The Family Handyman

-- Luxury Window Fashions Store : http://luxurywindowfashions.com/

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rwe2156

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#8 posted 05-29-2015 11:19 AM

For me, organization = knowing where everything is ;-) not having a shop that looks like a museum.

I figure at this point, if I start finding places to store everything I leave out, the less chance I have of finding it ;-D

I like watching Steve whathisname—the 5S guy—but honestly, guys—doesn’t he kind of remind you of the anal retentive chef Phil Hartman did on SNL?

You know, I would post pictures of my shop to show you all the level of level of organization I have achieved, but I wouldn’t want to embarass anyone, especially myself.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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Underdog

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#9 posted 05-29-2015 03:49 PM


Overhaul the shop by shoving everything you aren t actively using to one corner of the shop.

ARGH.
Currently EVERYTHING is shoved in ALL corners of the shop….

As you work and find uses for those items, they are assigned a home wherever needed.

HA HA!
That’s my method of work flow NOW. Remember? I shift something to use something else. Problem is, the homes are all temporary….


Perhaps sometime I ll take some pictures around the shop and give real-world examples of efficient work areas.

Oh PLEASE, PLEASE, do this!

-- "woodworker with an asterisk"

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Underdog

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#10 posted 05-29-2015 03:59 PM

Anyone read either of these two books?
Working at Woodworking: How to Organize Your Shop and Your Business by Jim Tolpin
or
Smart Workshop Solutions: Buiding Workstations, Jigs, and Accessories to Improve your Shop by Paul Anthony

-- "woodworker with an asterisk"

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#11 posted 05-29-2015 04:20 PM

The problem with the books I have read, the solution is build a cabinet for everything and most of those cabinets are designed to look pretty not conserve space. Same with the video by Down to Earth WW, he builds a 2nd building for lumber and has an upstairs in his shop; well anyone can be super organized with lots of space.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#12 posted 05-29-2015 04:31 PM

Lot’s of truth to that but organized doesn’t always equate to efficient. If the appropriate items are not put in the second building or upstairs, he could spend more time running between them instead of being productive. So, yes, the extra space makes it easier to be organized but not necessarily efficient.


The problem with the books I have read, the solution is build a cabinet for everything and most of those cabinets are designed to look pretty not conserve space. Same with the video by Down to Earth WW, he builds a 2nd building for lumber and has an upstairs in his shop; well anyone can be super organized with lots of space.

- Rick M.


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#13 posted 05-29-2015 04:34 PM



I like watching Steve whathisname—the 5S guy—but honestly, guys—doesn t he kind of remind you of the anal retentive chef Phil Hartman did on SNL?

- Robert Engel

Now that got a real laugh out of me. That was one of my favorite character’s from Hartman.

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#14 posted 05-29-2015 04:42 PM

Hello, I am a slob and a pack rat – now that I got that out of the way, my problem was/is similar.

I save too much and can’t seem to organize my stuff very well – hence the “I am a slob” comment

What I’ve done is: Searched the internet for storage solutions and shop layouts. I don’t subscribe to using methodical systems – they’ve never worked for me.

I’m much better creating my own system and expanding it based on what I see other people do/create and by process of elimination what works best for me.

So, I built several work tables, kept the longest for my shop (there was already a bench against the wall but it wasn’t very efficient).

Next, I built a bottom shelf for all the tables – I saw it on someone else bench and shop – next I built several under bench/table drawers on rollers. I got the plans and saw this from someone elses shop also – so far the best thing I’ve made for organization as it gets a lot of stuff out of the way.

I put up over the door shelving running the length of my shop for more storage – I’m loving all the storage – as fast as I build it I fill it LOL

I’m currently using peg board to hold the tools I use most often (I also have a 2 tier drawer tool box for items I don’t use constantly) – I’m currently trying to figure out how to make drawers – I’m currently trying to make drawers for the benches and the tables – with out much success I’ll add.

The peg board is going to go away once I get the drawers figured out, because I saw someone elses shop who is using cabinets for the tools – it holds more, and is more organized.

So basically, my organization is a work in progress based on what I see that I like that others have done and incorporating it in my small shop as I can.

I search the internet, find what I like, incorporate as best I can… rinse and repeat – hope that helps…

-- They said I could be anything... So I became Sarcastic! They also said making drawers is easy... I think they lied :(

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#15 posted 05-29-2015 04:43 PM

Buy some graph paper,measure everything that is taking up floor space, and measure each wall/floor so you have a accurate floor plan.draw your floor plan on the graph paper,maybe 1 sq=4”=3 sq =1’. now on another sheet,draw all you floor stuff from a top view,just the shape I.e looks like a square or rectangle. same scale as the floor plan,then label each,and cut out,place on your floor plan and arrange to a workable layout.don’t like move it around,whole lot easier than moving 500+lb machines or cabinets.

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