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05-28-2015 07:23 AM

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Hello everyone my name is Dan. I am a novice woodworker and really enjoy building things and the general positive mental attitude that seams to go along with it. I am making a table out of an old door 200 years at least, maybe old growth sugar pine? I have glued up an edge grain butcher block that I am going to resaw into half inch pieces and fill the panels to make the whole surface flat. My plan was to cut the veneers to fit into the panels and set them into a bed of west system but I am worried about movement. Should I glue the veneers just to the panels and rails and let the stiles float? Also should I seal the other side with epoxy as well? I have also added to the stiles 4” on either side, and was planning on 4” breadboards with a spline glued to the bottom and top rail, and doweled and glued at the center of the breadboard. Right way? Should I glue the whole spline since just the sides are end grain? I will try to include some pix tomorrow so you can have a better understanding of what it looks. Thank you all for your time and any help.


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#1 posted 05-29-2015 01:30 AM

I have included a better picture of what I am trying to do. Got the butcher block resawed into 3/8 pieces. Should I glue the pieces just to the panels(maybe leave an 1/8” and fill with poly sulfide caulk, would rather not do that)? Or epoxy everything and make them fit in tight? Just don’t want anything cracking down the road. Thanks in advance for any input you may have. Dan

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#2 posted 05-29-2015 01:33 AM

With the panels being at an angle, are you going to make the triangle boards to level the surface? If the door is that old, it is very likely that gluing boards to the panels will cause movements in them. Also, the new boards glued to the panel will shrink a lot more than the panel itself. Yes on the breadboard. One thing that comes to mind is to cut shallow kerfs in your veneer and glue only the base of it to the panel to allow for movement.

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#3 posted 05-29-2015 02:03 AM

Yes I’m trying to level the surface , I made the block edge grain to try to minimize the movement side to side, but you are probably right that it will move more than the panel. I think just gluing the base is a good idea, just don’t know if I should make them snug or not and fill with a flexible sealent like between teak boards on a boat. Maybe this is a crazy idea and I should just cover it in glass and use the veneers on something more stable. Thanks jinx

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#4 posted 05-29-2015 07:20 PM

One other thing you may consider is to remove the panels and insert a flat board in their place. Some furniture refinishing places have vaults for doors that size. They place the door in there and the stripper will cause the door to come apart like pulled pork. You can then make the panels so they will fit inside the stile and rail groves and as you mentioned, use some sort of flexible edging to allow for movement. You can mix colors, stones or whatever with the caulk. If the borders around the panels are not molding that can be removed, then those have to be cut at 90 degree as well. Personally, I would use another similar door and turn them into a vertical shelf. They are very popular right now. If you need a picture of what I am talking about, let me know.

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