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Shop Skills #3: Sharpening Card Scrapers - The Lost Scene...

Blog entry by Todd A. Clippinger posted 328 days ago 1413 reads 4 times favorited 28 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 2: Card Scrapers the Video! Part 3 of Shop Skills series Part 4: Trusting Your Glue Joints »

Forgive My Insensitivity…

A public Thank You is in order before I go any further. I had some great support from two individuals that are a part of LumberJocks.

I relied heavily on Dave Pruett for “on call” support to figure out how to edit / process / and post my video.

I need to thank Marc Spagnuolo as well. I did not continually call him like Dave, but his advice and pointers were taken to heart and helped me out as well.

As with my woodworking, my achievement with video is due to the support of others. Thank You!

The Lost Scene…

I forgot to add one scene in my video for the first post. It is kind of important because I use the cabinet scraper on a piece of reclaimed flooring with finish on it. First, I scrape off the finish (Oh boy does it explode off the board in front of the scraper!) and then I am able to start peeling the wood off in curls.

I did a re-edit and post, but you do not have to watch the whole video to see the lost scraper scene. You can see it here, it is just over a minute long:

If you haven’t seen the full video yet, it is available here:

I hope that this opens the door to the use of the card scraper for those that have struggled with the sharpening of this amazing tool.

I appreciate feedback and encourage any others that use card scrapers to post a blog with their perspective on the use of this tool.

Share the Love~Share the Knowledge

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://amcraftsman.com


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3fingerpat

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posted 328 days ago

Todd,
Loved the first video and now the lost scene video. I can only repeat what others have already said, but thank you so much for being so giving, of your time, to help your fellow woodworkers. I know I, like many others, do really appreciate your efforts and helpful information.

-- "You get what you inspect, not what you expect"

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Karson

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posted 328 days ago

You just wanted to leave that out so you could get everyone to up your post count.. T know you Todd.

Good job ny the way.

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anqi

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posted 328 days ago

Todd, Good job. Thank you!

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Brad_Nailor

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posted 327 days ago

When does the Blooper reel come out?

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Zuki

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posted 327 days ago

LOL Brad_N

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David

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posted 327 days ago

Todd -

That was amazing to watch the finish flying off that scraper!

David

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Todd A. Clippinger

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posted 327 days ago

I thought that this scene was pretty important to get in there.

It can be easy to miss a scene during editing.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://amcraftsman.com

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Harold

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posted 327 days ago

Todd I enjoyed this…one of the problems common in teaching or sharing is that a convenient or appropriate time for questions never presents itself. While watching your video I had the impression that questions would not only be encouraged, but genuinely welcomed. Well done Todd, very well done. You know one of the first hurdles faced in woodworking, or rather thier skills….is being able to recognize a 90 degree angle. I would enjoy your take on how this “talent” could be realized. It is a simple concept, but it has a huge impact on virtually every aspect of this craft as we move forward, from chopping a mortise, cutting dovetails, fitting a joint..or to sharpening our card scrapers….once again, thank you

-- If knowledge is not shared, it is forgotten.

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Todd A. Clippinger

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posted 327 days ago

Harold – Finding 90 is the crux of many woodworking skills.

As with anything it takes practice.

I found it interesting to watch myself in the video because I realized how skilled I have become at using the card scraper. It was like watching someone else that knew what they were doing.

It is an easy tool to operate really, but I always went to the right angle in the video and was peeling off beautiful shavings of wood.

I did comment in the video that finding the working angle would be intuitive once you practice it.

I am certain that it is impossible for me to achieve a perfect 90 degree position without a jig, but I am getting it close enough because it works and works very well.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://amcraftsman.com

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thewoodwhisperer

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posted 327 days ago

Oh man. Burnisher sales are dropping as we speak…....... ;)

Great excerpt!

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Beginningwoodworker

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posted 327 days ago

Nice video, Todd. I will put my card scrapers to better use because of this video.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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Grumpy

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posted 327 days ago

Well done Todd.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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douginaz

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posted 325 days ago

Todd, you have just relieved the burden of sharpening scrapers for a bunch of guys. I love to use the scraper but I have always hated the sharpening \ burnishing part. Thank you for a new way to do things.
Later,
Doug in AZ.

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ToddE

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posted 325 days ago

Todd,
I tried your technique on my new fangeled bench with a piece of maple that I had roughed from a 20” planer that was traveling too fast and put about 8,000 mill marks in it Took the marks right off. It is nice because you can do it fast and with my new bench, I can have everything clamped up right at my finger tips. Here’s a pic. Thanks Todd
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Todd A. Clippinger

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posted 325 days ago

Thanks for the feedback and especially the photo!

It is great to see that it worked for you.

The speed combined with the results are what I love about this method.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://amcraftsman.com

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MsDebbieP

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posted 307 days ago

a belated “thanks” and “well done”

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dustygirl

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posted 307 days ago

That was 2 great videos Todd.Before LJ’s I hadn’t even heard of a card scraper. Thank you so much for opening my eyes to such a simple and effective tool.

-- Dustygirl..Hastings,Ontario.. How much wood can 1 gal chuck if 1 gal can't cut wood?

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stefang

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posted 184 days ago

Todd, I had in fact read in a recently acquired book on guitar making that a scraper could be just filed before use, but didn’t smooth as good a the regular method. I was eager to try it out. I use my scrapers a lot, but have always used the “long method” to sharpen. Seeing your video was a revelation. Thank you so much for taking all the time to make this video so we can get even more enjoyment out of woodworking.

-- Mike, American in Norway

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Mike Gager

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posted 132 days ago

well this is an older post but i just found it, hopefully i can get an answer here.

ive tried the technique you show with no luck at all. my question is what type of file should i be using? i tried it with a file with crosscut lines as i dont have a single cut file. would that make a difference?

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Todd A. Clippinger

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posted 132 days ago

You can only use a single cut mill file. It cannot have the crosscut or crosshatch pattern in it.

Is that what you are using?

I have good result on a 10 mill and 12 mill single cut bastard file.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://amcraftsman.com

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Mike Gager

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posted 132 days ago

yeah its a crosscut style. i will get me a single cut fill and try it again. thanks!

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Todd A. Clippinger

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posted 132 days ago

That will solve the problem!

They do not cost much

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://amcraftsman.com

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Mike Gager

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posted 118 days ago

hey todd finally got around to getting a new file with similar results. would the quality of card scraper make a difference on what kind of shavings it produces? im using one i got from woodcraft, its a lynx brand by e garlick and sons. says its made in england so i thought they would be good. they are supposed to measure 0.8mm thick. should i try a different brand?

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Todd A. Clippinger

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posted 118 days ago

Mike- There are two challenges to using a card scraper; 1. sharpening and 2. properly using.
I seriously doubt that the card scraper itself is the issue. If you have a single cut file then it comes down to sharpening or scraping technique.

Sharpening the scraper is actually pretty easy. But if you do not think that you are holding it at a proper 90° to the file, it is easy enough to make a jig. However, a perfect 90° is not necessary because I can guarantee that I do not maintain a perfect 90° to the file and I get a sharp scraper.

When you check to see if it is sharp, pull your fingers across the face of the card and across the edge. When you do this, you will feel the burr on the edge. You will feel this on both sides and it is what does the cutting. Sharpening methods that use the burnisher refine this burr, but I get great results without refining it and it cuts very well as the video shows.

The next thing is using the card scraper. In helping others with card scrapers, I find that often this is where they are having the real difficulty. Sharpening with the file is easy, I even showed my wife and her friend how to do it so they could refinish a piece of outdoor furniture. They were sharpening and scraping on their own within a few minutes.

Start out holding the card scraper at a right angle to the board and only take it down about 20° to get the proper scraping angle. This will actually get you close, but you will need to play with that angle a little bit and lower or raise it to find the proper working angle. One hint – a higher angle works better than a lower angle.

A little bow or camber helps, but is not specifically necessary because I can pull the card scraper with one hand and get good shavings.

I hope this extra information helps.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://amcraftsman.com

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Mike Gager

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posted 118 days ago

hi todd, thanks for all the advice. i believe i am sharpening the scraper properly as i do feel the burr after sharpening so i think you may be right about my technique. i have to admit i may be holding the scraper at too much of an angle. i will experiment more with the angle and let you know how it goes. thanks again

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Todd A. Clippinger

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posted 118 days ago

I look forward to seeing how it works out.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://amcraftsman.com

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Joe Lyddon

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posted 65 days ago

Todd, you’re really good…

I like the way you use the KISS method / approach!

Thank you.

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Jimi_C

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posted 47 days ago

I just found this, and it has made my scrapers so much better! I just glued up 4 maple boards (going to be a raised panel door), and after planing down the joints I took the card scraper to it and it is baby bottom smooth. These doors will be painted, so I may hit them with a little 220 before painting, but honestly I think I could paint them as-is. In the future though, I will probably be wearing gloves when sharpening… I slipped once and took a pretty good gouge out of my right palm on one of the scrapers corners >_<

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