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Blog entry by Todd A. Clippinger posted 09-28-2014 04:54 PM 2647 reads 0 times favorited 18 comments Add to Favorites Watch

It was one year ago that I converted my single stage dust collector into a two stage system. In this video I share the final tweaks and changes to my dust collection system.

Find out some of the things I did that worked, and did not work, as I modified my dust collector.

I hope that by sharing my experience, others will find it helpful as they make decisions for their own dust collection system.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

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Disclaimer: I am not in any way affiliated or compensated by Oneida for using or talking about their product.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com



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lew

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#1 posted 09-28-2014 05:43 PM

Thanks for the video, Todd!

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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#2 posted 09-28-2014 06:06 PM

Todd,

I made a 2 stage using a steel barrel that was available. I use a second building that I built outside my shop for garden tools. Wanted a cyclone but I had more time than money. Built a Thein chip collector and posted it in my “Getting my shop tools ready blog.”

I noticed you also upgraded to PVC over the flex tubing? Don’t see any grounding wire?

Thanks for sharing what you have learned. I’m truly tool envious of your sander. LOL! But I’m guessing it’s necessary as you become more efficient and productive in your niche.

Video picture is larger in this episode. Again I was unable to expand it but current size made it more comfortable to watch.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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CharlesA

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#3 posted 09-28-2014 06:15 PM

PVC and grounding wire: Did a lot of reading on the subject, and the majority opinion seemed to be that for home-size shop DC systems, grounding wire is not necessary.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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Todd A. Clippinger

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#4 posted 09-28-2014 06:19 PM

DocSavage – I did not run a ground wire through the pipe. The metal pipe connected to the plastic cyclone bleeds off any static as it is well connected to the fan and motor which is grounded. There is no static build up that I am concerned about.

On the end of the run at the table saw, you can see a coil of copper wire on the first section of PVC attached to the table saw. This is grounded to the machine which also allows bleed off of static on this end. If static is building up in one part of the plastic, it is building up in all of it. In my situation, it is grounded on the two ends quite sufficiently for my system setup

I never experience static discharges indicating a build up. I am quite comfortable with this from a safety standpoint.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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#5 posted 09-28-2014 06:21 PM

thanks todd, great video and good information, and hey, your legs are looking pretty buff….lol…and one more thing…CRAP, you didnt show your doggie…...:)

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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Todd A. Clippinger

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#6 posted 09-28-2014 06:23 PM

Grizzman – Yeah I know, I had thought about that, no doggie or outtakes at the end of this one. I did not save any this time, I usually try to save a couple to add in at the end.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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#7 posted 09-28-2014 06:29 PM

well it just makes me wonder….what is the world coming to…no CRAP…and most of all no Doggie mascot…it’s a clippinger trademark buddy….....i vote for an edit….an add in…my girl molly here says woof woof woof…which does mean…edit and add the doggie…hey its the weekend, you gots the time…come on…...:)

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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Todd A. Clippinger

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#8 posted 09-28-2014 06:42 PM

Grizzman – Here is a pic I took just a few days ago after we took in a companion for Sage, our German Short Hair Pointer.

Her name is Luci (on left) and she is an 8 yr old Springer/Catahoula mix. She has a sweet disposition and she gets along with everybody. Her owner is a friend that could no longer take care of her due to a spinal cord injury, so we are honored to take her in.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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#9 posted 09-28-2014 06:47 PM

Thanks for more info Todd.
I upgraded also to the metal SDD before the plastic version with the ramp came out. Not as pretty as yours but it works. It was a quick and dirty conversion between projects a few years ago. The canister filter will be relocated (yeah…it been one of those “in the works” projects) so I can gain back some of my outfeed space on the tablesaw. That’s why the clamped on 2×4’s. The temporary set up that has been there for years now. I’m sure you know that feeling…ugh. I need one of those blue barrels. The one that came with it is too small. Fills way to fast with a lot of cutting, especially when I run the WM moulding machine.

I attached the blower directly to the cyclone. This eliminated some drag no hose between them. Basically tried to convert it into a factory style two stage.

-- Gary; Marysville, MI...Involve your children in your projects as much as possible, the return is priceless.

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Todd A. Clippinger

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#10 posted 09-28-2014 06:51 PM

GaryL – I like your setup and actually almost did the same layout.

The only issue was that I could not find 5” hard pipe in town for the outlet on the blower to connect to the inlet of the final stage, and was not going to wait for it to ship in.

I could go to most any hardware store/lumber yard supplier and get 6” metal pipe to go between the top of the cyclone and the inlet on the blower.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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#11 posted 09-28-2014 06:58 PM

GaryL – I had looked at the metal barrels, but I did not seriously entertain them. I knew that I could get all the free blue barrels I wanted for free and could modify them to fit my needs. The big benefit of the blue barrels is that they will never dent and you can knock them against the dumpster without damaging them.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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#12 posted 09-28-2014 07:04 PM

Thanks so much todd, now i can take a sunday nap knowing your sweet pups now has a companion, that is great, and i know you guys will love them both…there is always lots of love to go around, and with two dogs…i know for sure there is plenty of ..”CRAP’’...lol…

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#13 posted 09-28-2014 10:56 PM

Todd, thank you for the great tips & update…

You said look for Refinishing companies to get the Blue barrels…
I looked in our Yellow Pages… no Refinishing category…
Where in the Yellow Pages, do you look?

Thank you very much.

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#14 posted 09-28-2014 10:58 PM

I found one on CL—had to pay $15, but you might check.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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gfadvm

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#15 posted 09-29-2014 01:22 AM

Todd, Another great video. My 2 stage system is a bit simpler than yours but I agree it is a huge improvement over the single stage/canister filter. I too used the blue barrel and agree they are the best. They also make great trash barrels.
Keep posting these informative vids and I’ll keep watching and learning.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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