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Blog entry by timrowledge posted 09-25-2008 07:24 AM 2115 reads 0 times favorited 6 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Today’s project has been to create a variety of scenes for the component parts of my SketchUp design for a printer cupboard for my office. I haven’t done a lot of SU recently so I’m way out of practice and I never really had done much with scenes anyway. I think I see a need for some automation here; some scripts that can take a selection of components and
a) produce a scene with them laid out sensibly in a ‘list’
b) do all the hiding required to hide everything else
c) let you annotate and dimension each component
d) probably a bunch of other bits.

I can’t help thinking that a ‘bigger’ version of scenes is needed, perhaps ‘rooms’, where the components and styles are shared but not the space, so that you can stop worrying about seeing stuff you don’t want to see. It could probably be implemented by use of layers at a guess, althoguh I get the impression that layers are not likley to survive much longer in SU. Just having a tickbox for each scene to mark it as common or private should be adequate for a UI.

Once I had some dimensions and scenes I sent the model to Layout to build a set of plans. Boy, that hurt. Layout really does need some more work to get it up to standard. I’m going to guess that in fact it might do what I want but the functionality is pretty well hidden. For example, so far as I can tell you have to update after making any changes in SU by use of File->Open Recent and then hit the right button in the ensuing dialogue. A simple ‘Update’ would be nice. What I would really like in Layout is for it to be able to handle the dimensioning work instead of having to do it in SU. And for it to have a direct interface to the list of components in the model so a page can easily display (and dimension, don’t forget) one or more components without having to mess around with the SU file. This would allow a nice workflow separation too, one guy does the 3D design, another can do the pulling of parts and plans.

Next week would be fine, Google-guys :-)



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Brad_Nailor

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#1 posted 09-25-2008 01:34 PM

If I understand your task correctly, it is do-able in SU. You can set the properties of each scene to remember hidden objects, and layers that are on and off. If I have a problem with things overlapping in similar scenes, like if you want the room component and have different variations of the cabinetry, or want the room to change slightly, I would make copies of all the elements unique for each scene. But that is a bit extreme…99% of the time I can get the results I need by using layer control and hidden objects. As far as layout is concerned I don’t have allot of experience using it but I do agree….they should make dimensioning a part of layout not SU. I do like the way it interfaces with the drawings, and the title blocks and such…but it is a relatively “new” element to SU and hopefully if they ever decide to come out with another version I hope they would improve on it.

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romansfivefive

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#2 posted 09-25-2008 04:30 PM

sketchup makes me want to become a luddite

-- The CNC machine can either produce the work of art you imagined, or very decorative firewood.

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timrowledge

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#3 posted 09-25-2008 04:51 PM

Rob, that’s easy. Just turn off your computer, throw out all your elecctrimacality stuff and Ned’s your uncle.

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timrowledge

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#4 posted 09-25-2008 04:53 PM

Brad –
yup I’m pretty sure that playing with layers and scenes and hiding can do the bones of what I want but I’d like it to be easier. Of course…

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#5 posted 10-17-2008 05:53 PM

‘Ned’s your uncle?’ Does that mean I get the elecctrimacalicty stuff ?

-- Ned - 2B1ASK1 http://nedswoodshop.blogspot.com

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timrowledge

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#6 posted 10-17-2008 09:23 PM

So long as your name is Ned Ludd I guess it would….

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