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Blog entry by thedude50 posted 01-27-2012 06:13 AM 4445 reads 1 time favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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The Plan was to build myself a workbench and then it was 2 benches as my uncle decided he needed a real workbench as well. I offered to build the bench if he purchased the wood. and I already have my two vises and he will buy his vises and the wood for both benches. I will work my ass off and make the two benches. I also have a LJ friend here in town and have offered to have his build go at the same time as mine so this could be a 3 bench deal I am excited and hit the plans one more time. i have posted several times on the topics of high quality benches and have asked my self if i should add the Roubo style leg vice and sliding dead man or is the twin screw and 10 inch bench vise enough to do all the tasks as I believe it is. This is your chance to chime in and help me decide, do I build this right off the plans or do I modify it with different dogs and a leg-vise please elaborate on your opinion I WILL ADD A PIC WHEN I FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IT OFF THE DVD

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Brandon

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#1 posted 01-27-2012 06:15 AM

Looking forward to your posts on these benches, Dude. Best wishes!

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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Joe Lyddon

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#2 posted 01-27-2012 06:24 AM

Sounds like a great DEAL for both of you!

Are you going to do it in your new shop/shed? (which, we’re still waiting for a picture update.)

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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thedude50

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#3 posted 01-27-2012 07:06 AM

no joe it will be in the three car shop not the shed the shed is just for storage the roof will be done in a couple of days and i will take photos before then and after as soon as the sun comes back out nasty here the last few days first rain then fog and today clouds not cool Newt in 2012

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#4 posted 01-27-2012 11:00 AM

Hi Dude.

I’ve found one very useful and easy addition to any work bench is a portable dead man. Mine is just a piece of 2×4 with some other pieces of the same 2×4 added with a set screw to hold it in place on a leg of the bench whenever I need an extra “hand” to hold a large awkward work piece. Cost almost nothing, stores away in very little space and handy as all get out. Only change I might make at some later date is to drill some indexed shallow holes in the legs to accept the set screw for a more solid, slip free attachment.

Paul

-- The nicer the nice, the higher the price!

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canadianchips

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#5 posted 01-27-2012 02:58 PM

Hey dude. I am in same position you are. I have completed my MAIN frame,(6”x6” maple top, 6”x6 “maple legs) vise on one end so far. I am contemplating the twin screw vise on side, The dead man I am NOT putting on my main bench, I have a portable bench that it will get more use from. I mean, how many doors, or large items do I really plane anymore ? Would be a nice feature, just NOT practical in my case. I was going to install leg vise (Re-thinking that one as well)
AS it stands now, I DO have a SOLID start !

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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dbray45

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#6 posted 01-27-2012 03:59 PM

Something that I did when I made the 3 or 4 different benches, I went to the hardware/lumber store (not the box store) where they had a bin of scrap wood. Some of these pieces were very helpful in the various configurations.

Something to think about, my current bench has drawers, where before it had a shelf. Before that, one of my beches had a couple of drawers and 2 pull out shelves to hold small pieces of wood, etc…

When you design it, try to give yourself the flexibility of changing it in the future as you and your father’s requirements and desires change. You will be glad you did.

-- David in Damascus, MD

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thedude50

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#7 posted 01-27-2012 06:16 PM

thanks for this good input i would like to build in a full set of drawers with french inlayed tool holders for my fine heirloom quality tools I am not a tool snob but i do have thousands of dollars woth of hand planes and hand saws where a year ago i had 1 plane and 2 saws i now own over 200 planes and 40 saws I also have been buying up firmer chisels mortice chisels and i have tried very hard to buy Japanese chisels. I was going to build a cheep bench like norms bench but it is too light for hand planing and i truly love hand planing I need more hand tools like i need a hole in the head since i have been taught woodworking the classical way hand tools first then power tools I love the expandability idea and i think the design lends it self to this IMHO

David its my uncle dad died in 1975 but thanks for your ideas

Tiny I would like to see a picture and pics of the deadman in use if you can swing it

If I need a dead man why not just build it in

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chopnhack

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#8 posted 01-28-2012 05:42 AM

Dude, just go with the plans for now, you have 3 benches being built at the same time, it would be easier to pound them all out and then customize them later if you need to. 2 cents ;-) Can’t wait to see some progress pics!

-- Sneaking up on the line....

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#9 posted 01-28-2012 09:33 AM

Dude, the leg vise is just killer looking, and it works really well. you have to plan for the deadman now, you won’t be able to route the 3/4” x 1” groove in the underside of the top.
the cost of $145.00 for the big wooden vise might be a factor, but it is also killer

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thedude50

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#10 posted 01-28-2012 06:00 PM

Please check out this video and then tell me why again do i need a dead man or do in effect I already have that capability http://www.popularwoodworking.com/video/bench

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Joe Lyddon

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#11 posted 01-28-2012 09:26 PM

That’s a cool bench… I remember that article…

It reminds me of The Newfangled Workbench by John White of FineWoodworking… which is the one I’m going to make… nothing fancy… but functional…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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chopnhack

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#12 posted 01-29-2012 03:57 AM

As you see in the video all those peg holes in the legs and stretchers and edge of top of the bench give Bob the function of the deadman. Dude, you mention wanting to build in drawers below the bench – that kind of defeats the accessibility feature of the split top at which point you might as well build a solid top. Think of the depth issue you will have with drawers – maybe 9” deep based on overall width of the bench at 24” not to mention that you wouldnt be able to use holdfasts.

-- Sneaking up on the line....

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Dave

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#13 posted 01-31-2012 06:44 AM

Here is my vote Roubo style leg vice. Can’t wait to see the build take off.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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thedude50

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#14 posted 01-31-2012 08:03 AM

Thanks again we will be building then bench exacrly as the plans are but will add a leg vise on the back side at a later date as funds allow

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