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Woodworking on a Half-Shoestring #20: Dust Collection Finally Up and Running!

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Blog entry by Paul Bucalo posted 11-13-2014 06:35 PM 2687 reads 0 times favorited 6 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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A couple of weeks ago I ordered a 2-1/2” universal port that I had hoped to use on the backside of the Delta 36-510 Bench Saw. With that beast being parked indefinitely due to a bad armature bearing, I can now use it for it’s original intent: a dust collection port for the yet-to-be-finished base for the Skilsaw 3410-02 that I started over a month ago. Along with the port I ordered a 10’ length of wire reinforced 2-1/2” dust collection hose. The hose was suppose to be the input and output hose to the Dust Deputy Cyclone I had mounted on a 5 gal. bucket. It would connect to either the 6 peak h.p. 16 gal. Sears Wet/Dry Vac or the smaller, more compact and newly acquired Shop Vac that fits on a dolly I made for this purpose. The latter can accept a finer particle bag and already uses a HEPA filter inside. The Sears is too old and wasn’t designed for either.

All of this should have worked. It didn’t .The ordered hose has a much larger internal diameter than the widest outer diameter on the Dust Deputy’s ports. A call to Rockler tech support ended up lasting over 30 minutes and ended with my thanks and a no thanks to a cob-job solution that would have cost me as must as the hose did. The answer, ironically, came from our local Lowe’s in the form of a new Shop Vac hose and extension set. The two cost more than the other hose, but they solved the connectivity problem with the Dust Deputy, and the extension pack allowed for the connection of the two hoses together as well as giving a connection point for the Rockler hose and some of my equipment. In effect, I really didn’t need the reinforced Rocker hose. At least I can still use it in my setup. Here you can see the finished collection system with the extension tube connecting the new Shop Vac hose with the old Sears hose and its associated vacuuming accessory:

Before taking this picture I used it to vacuum up the fine broken up concrete particles. I tried this once before with my previous attempt at making my own dust collector using PVC ends. No smell of concrete or dungeon this time around. After a few minutes I did start to feel a scratchiness in the throat, which is still bothering me right now. I can’t say that I am surprised, and I am only slightly disappointed. The system was designed for sawdust collection, not concrete dust. The floor has to be cleaned before I can setup down there. As efficient as this system is I am fine with needing to wear a mask whenever I do the floor.

The second picture shows how much pallet wood I have to put away before I can bring down the 3’x6’ bench from the second floor back room. The good news is that I was successful in relocating the 13 cu. ft. chest freezer to another wall and that will give me that side of the coal bin area to build a lumber rack. You can also see why I need to build the base for the Skilsaw. A very convenient foldable base for on-site use. Terrible for indoor use.

-- -- Paul Bucalo, Norwich NY USA



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#1 posted 11-13-2014 07:02 PM

Looks good, other than the fact that I use PVC to connect my shop vac to my dust deputy and I use a 3 gallon bucket (needed a lower bucket to be able to tuck all this under my stairs) it is the exact same thing I use. As long as I remember to empty the bucket it works great for keeping saw dust and planer chips off the floor.

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#2 posted 11-13-2014 07:07 PM


Looks good, other than the fact that I use PVC to connect my shop vac to my dust deputy and I use a 3 gallon bucket (needed a lower bucket to be able to tuck all this under my stairs) it is the exact same thing I use. As long as I remember to empty the bucket it works great for keeping saw dust and planer chips off the floor.

- Notw

Is the Dust Deputy working well for you?

I would love to have a permanent installation like yours. I don’t know how long the wife and I will stay here, so I an reluctant to invest in dust collection plumbing. I know I am losing suction with the connections on the Shop Vac hoses. The hoses create turbulence that decreases efficiency. But as I have to go, I can wheel it to the machine in use system or locate it somewhere out of the way and connect hoses to machinery as being used.

-- -- Paul Bucalo, Norwich NY USA

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#3 posted 11-13-2014 08:57 PM

Is the Dust Deputy working well for you?

I would love to have a permanent installation like yours. I don t know how long the wife and I will stay here, so I an reluctant to invest in dust collection plumbing. I know I am losing suction with the connections on the Shop Vac hoses. The hoses create turbulence that decreases efficiency. But as I have to go, I can wheel it to the machine in use system or locate it somewhere out of the way and connect hoses to machinery as being used.

- Paul Bucalo

Dust deputy works fine for me, I’m about to build a shop made air filter for the fine dust in the air.

I think my last comment was a little unclear, I don’t have PVC hard line going to each machine, the PVC is just from the top of the dust deputy to the inlet on the shop vac. I still have a single flex hose that I move from machine to machine. I switched to the PVC at the top of the dust deputy because I didn’t use as much hose as you have and the hose was making too sharp of a turn and I wasn’t getting the full diameter of the hose. I’ll try to snap a picture of it, might make more sense.

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#4 posted 11-13-2014 09:12 PM



Dust deputy works fine for me, I’m about to build a shop made air filter for the fine dust in the air.

I think my last comment was a little unclear, I don t have PVC hard line going to each machine, the PVC is just from the top of the dust deputy to the inlet on the shop vac. I still have a single flex hose that I move from machine to machine. I switched to the PVC at the top of the dust deputy because I didn t use as much hose as you have and the hose was making too sharp of a turn and I wasn t getting the full diameter of the hose. I ll try to snap a picture of it, might make more sense.

- Notw

Yes, it’s clearer now what you have. Please do pass on a picture of your setup. I always learn something from the wait others do things.

The main reason for using flexible hosing between the Dust Deputy and the vac was so that I could swap between the two that I have. If this smaller Shop Vac doesn’t create enough vacuum I can use the large sears vac, build an attachment to its removable base, and use that one instead.

-- -- Paul Bucalo, Norwich NY USA

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#5 posted 11-23-2014 04:01 PM

Hopefully the old saying of better late than never works here as well, sorry it took me so long to send you some pics of my Dust Deputy. I apologize for all the dust and dirt on the system, the cleaning lady must be on holiday.

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#6 posted 11-23-2014 06:18 PM


Hopefully the old saying of better late than never works here as well, sorry it took me so long to send you some pics of my Dust Deputy. I apologize for all the dust and dirt on the system, the cleaning lady must be on holiday.

- Notw

Better late than never works for me in this case. Thanks for thinking to follow through. Appreciated.

It looks like you are using the same Shop Vac model. Mine is now making some scraping metal sounds inside. I think the bearings are going on the armature or fan shaft. Right now I have the DD connected to the Craftsman 6 HP behemoth.

I like the plumbing. When I get the shop together I will come back to this and ask you for the specifics on your plumbing.

Thanks again for posting your pics.

-- -- Paul Bucalo, Norwich NY USA

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