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what i've been doing #17: Journey with me and Krenov.

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Blog entry by Dave posted 913 days ago 1922 reads 3 times favorited 39 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I am a type of guy that will get a notion to do something and just go with it. I found a plan online of a Krenov plane using Hock irons. I don’t have a hock Iron, I do have an old two inch smoother iron from Providence Tool Co. So I choose to modify the plans a bit to see if I could get the thing to work. I know the Krenov style is one of the easiest to build.
This will be a two part series and I am at the glueup.

First the materials. The base of the plane is good old Mississippi sweet gum. The sides are maple and the sole is jatoba. The video i have produced is the build up to the glue up. Thats when the problems started. The old iron is brittle. Its useless. I built the plane body to accept an iron without a chip breaker. Thus the pile of wedges you see.
I took some pictures and some footage along the way.

This might not work. But it will be lessons well learned. The hard way.
Dennis the music is for you.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com



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Joe Lyddon

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#1 posted 913 days ago

COOL Video!

You did GOOD!

It will be interesting o see how it goes…

Thank you.

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#2 posted 913 days ago

Thanks Joe. It’s got me scratching my bald head.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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#3 posted 913 days ago

that looks like one heck of a workout. a nice hunk-a-hunk-a plane

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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#4 posted 913 days ago

Thank Roger, I may need some of that wood wine before this is over.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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#5 posted 913 days ago

Good video and good work Dave. I hope your blade works out ok. It would be a shame not to get good use out of what looks like a beautiful plane in the making. If not, I suggest you buy some tool steel in the thickness you want and just make it yourself. Looking forward to seeing the completion.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#6 posted 913 days ago

Thanks Mike that thought has crossed my mind. Or just find an old smother with a bad body and a good blade. I am going to finish it and would like to use an old iron, they were designed to be wedged in. We will see.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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#7 posted 913 days ago

Dave,

Wel done video. wondering what you mean by brittle? Hardness?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#8 posted 913 days ago

Thanks Doc. Yes way to hard. Its like it was tempered incorrectly somewhere in its lifetime. I put an edge on it an a piece of cypress chipped the bade witch was just protruding out. I will be shifting to plan B. Or plan C.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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#9 posted 913 days ago

Dave you could heat that blade to cherry red and just let it air cool, then reheat to cherry red and douse with cold water to harden it and then reheat to a reddish purple color to temper it. You can redo this process as many times as necessary to get the right tempering color. Have a look at the color chart link for tempering.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/tempering-colors-steel-d_1530.html

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#10 posted 913 days ago

@stefang

Hey man!

That sounds like the Perfect solution! Dave?

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#11 posted 913 days ago

Dave,

When I was in highschool we had small forges etc, I took a few semesters of machine shop training. The teacher made knives. Stefang’s suggestion might be an adventure you could take in retempering the blade to make it more usable? We also use to ad carbon to increase hardness in the knife blades.

Something from my past but youtube and google could take you there?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#12 posted 913 days ago

Mike thanks bunches. I will give it a try.
I agree Joe.
I believe Doc a bit of forging-smithing is on the agenda for late nite viewing.
Thanks guys for the help.
Gentlemen there is a possibility that the blade has been sharpened past it’s steel lamination. When I get home I will take a picture and post.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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#13 posted 913 days ago

”It’s nice when a plan comes together.”

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#14 posted 912 days ago

Joe who are you Face Man and is this the A-Team ;)lol

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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#15 posted 912 days ago

Lamination limitations, Foiled again!!

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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