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MAKING A TALL STAVE CONTAINER #2: Making the Dados for the Bottom

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Blog entry by stefang posted 05-23-2016 12:41 PM 1762 reads 0 times favorited 16 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 1: Preparing the staves and the bottom. Part 2 of MAKING A TALL STAVE CONTAINER series Part 3: Grand Finale »

Struggling
My apologies for being so late with this follow-up to the first blog in this series. I had to do a lot of work to get our garden into shape for the spring/summer season and it went pretty slow for me this year as I am getting old and decrepit.

Recap
You might recall that I had finished coving the staves for this container on my table saw. This is only going to be a utilitarian item which will serve as a moveable 2nd leg a for wall hinged work bench and I only did the coving for my own benefit to see how it would work out for future containers. I don’t intend to round the outside as it is not necessary for it to look good for it’s use. I’m making this for my son’s hobby bicycle workshop.

The finished coving work leaves me with 13 staves in total. The roundness will not be perfect in this case as I could not get the profile I needed with my small diameter tablesaw blade without sacrificing the width of the bords. The result did come out good enough though to get an idea of what’s involved for other containers I might do in the future.

You can find a lots of articles and no doubt many Youtube videos showing how the coving is done on a table saw. This photo shows the coved staves prior to cutting the angles on the edges. See below.

Here is the bottom glued-up and marked out for cutting on the bandsaw. The inner ring is the inner diameter of the container and the outer ring is the total diameter of the bottom including the part between the rings that will be imbedded into the dados. See below.

The staves were all laid on my bench cove side down and taped all the glue vertical joints with a wide masking tape, then I made 5 crossbands of masking tape and curled the staves up to see how well it would go together. So far, so good. See below.

Next, the still taped staves were laid on the bench, cove side up this time, and the dado lines marked for the bottom and then cut lightly with a knife. See below.

The dado outline cuts were deepened with my shoulder knife. This long handled shop-made knife gives incredible leverage without much effort. My reason for doing the dados by hand was to get an even dado deepness throughout the curve of the coves. I didn’t feel that it was worth the time to rig some way to do this with a machine as it would have been way too time consuming compared to the 2 hours it took to complete the job with hand tools. See below.

A flat chisel with the bevel side down was used to remove the waste next to the upper and lower lines. The last photo shows the bevel up for removing the waste in the middle, but I used the bevel down for most of that work too. See below.

This photo shows how I managed to work comfortably at the front edge of the bench by letting each stave drop over the edge after it’s dado was finished. This also made it easy to remove the chips and dust that accumulated in the glue joint during the chiseling work. See below.

And lastly, the finished dados. You might notice that I went all the way through on one of them. I did this to remind you not to make the same mistake! See below.

The next installment will be the dry fit and the gluing. I hope you will not be expecting anything of beauty to result. thanks for reading.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.



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SPalm

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#1 posted 05-23-2016 12:59 PM

Looks great.
What a neat project.

Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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Roger

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#2 posted 05-23-2016 01:42 PM

No apologies needed. Coming along nicely.

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Keep your dust collector fed. Kentuk55@yahoo.com

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a1Jim

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#3 posted 05-23-2016 01:52 PM

Mike I always enjoy your blogs their always unique and very informative,this ones very cool,keep on keeping on.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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doubleDD

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#4 posted 05-23-2016 02:53 PM

Looks like you’re making progress and nicely at that. We have been having the same gardening problems here only with too much rain and now calling for 4 more days of it.

-- Dave, Downers Grove, Il. -------- When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams.

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Jim Bertelson

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#5 posted 05-23-2016 03:28 PM

That sure does look like fun. I am doing a very utilitarian project, making two under desktop wooden cages for two video switches. I am picking up some programming skills again, and need the three monitors on the main computer for that. For other purposes, I have two cheap computers I plug the side monitors into. So I need switches.

Sherie ran off to baby sit in Omaha for my daughter, who is a colorectal surgeon. She has 10 day stints of call, and needs night time and weekend coverage. Her husband, a plastic surgeon, is in San Antonio finishing up a hand subspecialty. They will probably move to Denver later this year.

But the main point, is that I too got left with some gardening. Planted flowers in a couple of large pots and dragged them up to the deck, yesterday. Sherie has tasked me to do a few other things as well. Sherie still has some gardening left in the big perennial beds in back, but that can wait for her and her expertise. Thankfully, most of the flower gardens are perennials that keep the yard colorful from before the snow is all gone, until after the first snow in the fall…........

I have a couple of shop projects to post, but I admit to being delinquent. When Sherie is gone, the chore list each day gets rather long, including making my own meals and shopping for food. I normally do most of the cooking anyway, so not a big deal.

I assume summer is upon you. It has been mostly in the 50’s and 60’s here, with a few 70+ days thrown in.

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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Dutchy

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#6 posted 05-23-2016 03:40 PM

How nice to see you are busy again with the stave container. Be careful.

-- My englisch is bad but how is your dutch?

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shipwright

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#7 posted 05-23-2016 05:11 PM

Yeah, but I’ll bet you have a great garden.
Well done, nice blog too.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#8 posted 05-23-2016 05:17 PM

Good progress, Mike!!

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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stefang

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#9 posted 05-23-2016 05:23 PM

Thanks for the positive comments guys. Sorry I haven’t been keeping up with your posts lately. I will try to do better.

Dave Sounds just like Norway (or maybe Seattle).

Jim With your programming skills and computer knowhow I think you might enjoy building and using a CNC router. Steve (Spalm) has built one and done some very nice projects with it. I wouldn’t mind having one myself if I had room for it and were smart enough to actually build one.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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mafe

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#10 posted 05-23-2016 05:48 PM

Looking good Mike.
Smiles,
Mads

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#11 posted 05-24-2016 10:16 AM

You are doing better than me posting stuff. Good work

-- Dr. Ken, Florida - Durch harte arbeit werden Träume wahr.

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stefang

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#12 posted 05-24-2016 03:33 PM

Thanks Mads and Ken. I glued it up today, so I will be posting the last blog in a couple of days.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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Jim Bertelson

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#13 posted 05-24-2016 04:22 PM

Re the CNC, that does sound like fun, but I would have a space problem as well. I might be able to find space to store it between uses, however. Never ending chores, with Sherie gone, later…................

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#14 posted 05-25-2016 09:11 AM

Hello Mike,
Ah yes the good ole staves, I did one semi cercular one some a while ago. I found them to be one of the most frustrating activities I had ever attempted specifically in regards to being able to manage holding everything together.
I later tried again with a “stave Drum” and got some good results, once I worked out what I was doing!
Looks like yours is a lot more complex, so I will keep an eye out for your progression posts.

Your post is very well documented and presented so I guess the same care and attention to detail occured in your gardens also.

-- Regards Robert

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#15 posted 05-26-2016 12:02 PM

Hi Mike,

Great blog!!!

-- Dennis Zongker

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