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Blog entry by stefang posted 02-02-2011 10:28 PM 980 reads 0 times favorited 7 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Today’s blog is about planing the stave’s inside concave surface and planing the edge angles. First our logo photos of the bucket we are making and the tools to make it with.

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PLANING THE CONCAVE INSIDE OF THE STAVE’S

Yesterday’s blog shows me planing the concave side of the stave’s. I continued with that until I had enough to do a test assembly. In photo 1 below you see the still flat outside of the stave’s I’ve planed and I have also planed the angled edges which I will tell more about below. I’ve taped up the stave’s to see what a partial assembly will yield. You can see the concave shapes in photo 2 and the half round in photo 3 and sitting upright in photo 4.

You might notice that I managed to cut the stave’s different lengths leaving a somewhat wavy top edge (I like diversity). The important thing is that the bottom edge is aligned because the bottom edge is the reference line for the dado which the bottom will sit in. The stave’s top edge’s will be whipped into order after the dados are cut.

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Photo 5 is just an outside view of the temporary assembly.

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Here you see my planing set-up on my sliding beam bench. This worked better than clamping them between the dogs on my workbench because my material is so thin (3/8”).

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PLANING THE EDGE’S OF THE STAVE’S

As I mentioned yesterday I set my bevel finder to the angle indicated which is 15 degrees. Then I marked the angle on each stave on the top and bottom edges. Then I just free handed the planing on my upside down jack plane while it was clamped in my bench. This worked very well and very easy and the angles were very accurate. But without an angled fence you do need the marks to follow as you plane. All-in-all pleasant work and quickly done. I hope you will give it a try. In the photo below you can see that my jack plane has grown a beard.

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WHAT WENT WRONG?

I enjoyed myself so much today that I began to think that everything was going almost too well. Well, I was right! Here is a list of what went wrong.

1. I continued to assemble the stave’s with tape around the bottom circle as I went. When I was just short one stave, it became apparent to me that I had misjudged the width of the stave’s need to complete the circle as laid out on the bottom piece. I won’t waste your time with excuses and yes I do know coopers math, but somehow I bungled it anyway. It wasn’t easy! Ok, this is not a big deal. It only means that the bucket diameter will be a little less. The main problem will be adjusting the bottom to the new size and of course my hurt pride. Luckily I haven’t cut the bottom round yet, so I just need to find out the new diameter and mark it on the bottom. Photo 1 below shows that temporarily assemble bucket and photo 2 is an inside view.

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2. Coping with the ‘Weeping Stave’ This is the last stave that goes into the bucket, and it is aptly named as it almost had me in tears. Hear that girls? Proof that I am a modern sensitive man. The width of the last stave compensates for small errors in widths which are mainly caused by planing the angled edges too much, and errors in judgement like I made, plus the old timers didn’t have the math (and they still did it better than me!). The photo below shows the bad joint.

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The challenge here is to get the right width for that last oddball stave and also the right thickness. I managed to tape the bucket together minus the last stave and somehow estimated the width needed to fit the opening. I almost got that right, but the material was way to thin over the great round distance and therefore the outside of the stave didn’t match up with the other stave’s. So tomorrow I have to make a new ‘Weeping Stave’. Wish me luck.

Thanks for reading and please make your own mistakes and not copy mine, lol. Thanks for reading this.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.



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daltxguy

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#1 posted 02-03-2011 12:03 AM

Hi Mike,
Excellent progress. I can’t wait to be making the mistakes you are making ( and probably new ones!)

-- If you can't joint it, bead it!

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#2 posted 02-03-2011 01:15 AM

great blog and picturebook once again …thank´s Mike

take care
Dennis

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mafe

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#3 posted 02-03-2011 01:41 AM

Hi Mike,
I love the bearded plane.
It’s not untill now I discovered that your plane has a doubble back handle, sweet little detail.
Once again a wonderful blog, and I’m a little behind here in Copenhagen, but I will see if I can do a little tomorrow.
Question; I do understand right that the staves are same with in top and bottom? The bucket is straight up and down…
I’m happy to hear you make mistakes, now I know that you are human, I thought for a while you were a Super Mike! lol.
To hear that you are a ‘soft’ modern man, this was no surprice, this I did know, and this is one of the reasons I love your company and words here always.
I also love divesity, so I was thinking to make the stafs different withs, do you think this will give me problems?
So I will try to do my own mistakes, usually I do good in this…
Best thoughts, and thank you for sharing this wonderful day of yours, you did a really nice job, so do not weep too much with that weeping stick,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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patron

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#4 posted 02-03-2011 02:43 AM

great progress here mike

i can imagine the old timers siting around a fire
and making buckets (grog probably) lol
and having enough odd pieces too
maybe enough to make a bucket
for the wives

great blog
and well done

and us soft sensitive guy have to have something to do

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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DrAllred

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#5 posted 02-03-2011 03:52 AM

Please explain the math used by Coopers….

Now that I see a bucket, maybe I’ll add it to my Bucket list to do…

Great work, I am enjoying this and maybe one day I will have the time to make one myself.

-- David, Mesa Arizona

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#6 posted 02-03-2011 12:38 PM

gotta love a sensitive man :D

It’s good to read about the “back-up plans” and how to adjust to … challenges.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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stefang

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#7 posted 02-03-2011 03:43 PM

Thank you all for your very nice comments and kind thoughts. I am mostly worried about making mistakes that will bring other participants to our courageous little group a lot of grief. I am now going to post a little interim info blog. I believe I have this thing figured out now.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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