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For the Sailors and Boat Lovers #1: A matter of scale: Friendship vs Warrior

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Blog entry by shipwright posted 10-01-2013 04:50 PM 1647 reads 0 times favorited 36 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I had the opportunity a couple of days ago to visit the historic naval dockyards at Portsmouth and to visit some of the great British warships preserved there. For a wood boat builder, the new Mary Rose exhibit is truly amazing as is the walk through of the Victory but for sheer wow factor it’s very hard to beat the Warrior.

Built in 1860, she was the biggest, fastest and most powerful battleship ever to have been built. Restored to her full glory she is truly a wonder to behold.

I thought it would be fun to show some comparison photos, tongue firmly in cheek, between her and my own little Friendship.

What surprised me as I developed the idea was the number of similarities there actually were. It’s really just a matter of scale.

For example, lets look at the bows. Each has some carving and a place to mount the anchor.
My anchor weighs 24 lbs. Warrior’s anchor weighs 5.6 tons and is one of four that size that she carried along with several smaller ones.

Then there are the steering and cooking facilities. The similarities are clear although the scale is somewhat different.

Lets look up the mast at the rigging. ...... Pretty similar I’d say.

We both have deadeyes to support our masts. ........

....and pin rails to hang our halyards on.

The Warrior carried 37,546 square feet of sail compared to my 360 square feet. She also carried twenty two 68 pound and four 110 pound guns. I Carry one flare pistol with six flares as I remember.

........ Soooooo …... All in all pretty similar, .... It’s just a matter of scale I guess.

Thanks for looking, I hope I made you smile.

Paul

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/



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Dan Lyke

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#1 posted 10-01-2013 05:01 PM

Gotta confess that I far prefer your carving and scrollwork to that big ol’ tacky figurehead…

And 4 ship’s wheels? That’s kinda like adding extra chrome pipes on to the back of your jacked-up pickup truck, no?

-- Dan Lyke, Petaluma California, http://www.flutterby.net/User:DanLyke

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#2 posted 10-01-2013 05:03 PM

(smile)

Quite a comparison!

... the size of those ropes!! Awesome! You just don’t throw them around!

Thank you!

Awesome!

(smile)

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#3 posted 10-01-2013 05:07 PM

oh im smiling, and loving it that you had the fun experience , wow, that ship is amazing, you must have been in heaven, thank you paul for a trip to a place i would never make it to…this was great…can you tell im a bit excited here…lol..is friendship dry docked now, as i know your time must be getting close for your winter departure…thanks captain…;)

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#4 posted 10-01-2013 05:17 PM

Very cool Paul thank you.

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#5 posted 10-01-2013 05:24 PM

Paul,
Thanks for the pics. I’ve always been in awe of the old wooden sailing ships (and wooden airplanes for that matter). But, alas, I have no skill or experience with either, having spent my life as a land-locked, ground bound history. LOL Portsmouth is on my agenda for the next trip to England. Great pics.
Roger

-- "Everybody makes mistakes. A craftsman always fixes them." (Monty Kennedy, "The Checkering and Carving of Gunstocks", 1952)

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#6 posted 10-01-2013 05:56 PM

Wow, amazing similarities :-) Seems that you’re simply missing a 68-pounder or two on the Friendship.

-- Bob, Potomac, MD

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eddie

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#7 posted 10-01-2013 06:02 PM

Paul thanks for the pic and sharing ,Boats are my first love thou i dont think ill ever be the master craftsman as you but the passion is there ,always enjoy your post and sharing of knowledge you boat builders have my admiration ,once they sent me to Boston for some training and spent time at that harbor looking at the ships that were made I was amazed at the craftsman ship it took to built these boats .really enjoyed the pic .

-- Jesus Is Alright with me

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#8 posted 10-01-2013 06:17 PM

Wonderful Paul, Dundee has HMS Discovery a magnificent ship
also well worth a visit but still not in the class of Friendship :)

Jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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#9 posted 10-01-2013 07:03 PM

Lucky man! Before I left London in 2003, I had the opportunity to visit Portsmouth and HMS Victory as well. Memorable! I also found a chair builder in High Wycomb (Stuart Linford) and he created a series of Nelson chairs made with oak salvaged from the excess topsides of HMS Victory as she was being placed in dry dock (where she is currently I suspect). I’m sitting in one of those chairs right now! Priceless!!!

-- Max the "night janitor" at www.hardwoodclocks.com

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#10 posted 10-01-2013 07:09 PM

Thank you for sharing the pictures, it was great! I love the great sailing ships. I’ll second Jaime Speirs above re: the HMS Discovery. My wife and I visited HMS Discovery in Dundee in 2008 on our tour through Scotland, and it was very interesting and well maintained. The exhibits on the inside on exploring the antarctic (or was it arctic?) were fascinating!

I was in to building scale replicas a few years back but never appreciated all the woodwork that went into the big boys until now….

Thanks again!

-- Steve http://vaughtwoodworks.wordpress.com

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MrFid

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#11 posted 10-01-2013 07:11 PM

Great post. Good for a smile and some cool pictures. Excellent work on your vessel.

-- Bailey F - Eastern Mass.

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#12 posted 10-01-2013 08:30 PM

Paul, you def made me smile…. Love the photos of both beauty’s. I have read as many books as time allows about that era. Your girl is a real beauty but I expected nothing different from your posts. Thx for sharing and hope all is well.

-- Ken, "Everyday above ground is a good day!"

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#13 posted 10-01-2013 09:08 PM

Love the pics Paul but I hope there’s one similarity that you don’t have, that would be other ships shooting canon at you! Well you would be a small target to hit :)

-- Paul--- Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep. — Scott Adams

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#14 posted 10-01-2013 09:52 PM

Great post….enjoyed it….Have a great day..

-- To realize our true destiny, we must be guided not by a myth from our past, but by a vision of our future

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#15 posted 10-01-2013 09:59 PM

Nice pics. Paul. that is the perfect place for you to visit. wouldn’t it be nice to ail on one of those??
I’ll bet that was tea they were having from the galley!!
Cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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