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Hide Glue for Beginners #4: A Little Hammer Veneering Video

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Blog entry by shipwright posted 05-14-2013 12:17 AM 2899 reads 1 time favorited 30 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I’m working on a new top for the sliding hatch on my sailboat to replace the $136 piece of medium bronze acrylic that I sat on the other day…. Crack !!!.... This time I cold molded a curved panel from 3 layers of 1/8” cedar on opposing diagonals and decided to make it appear to be a solid mahogany hatch. This would be difficult to press with either my screw press or clamps and would require substantial jigging to vacuum bag so the obvious answer seemed to be to hammer it. Of course I also was dying to try out my new real (not home made) veneer hammer from Tools for Working Wood and the new glue brushes from the same order. Don’t worry about the hide glue on a boat thing. This will be coated in epoxy when finished and will never be soaked for a long period in hot water.

I ask you can veneering be any easier than this?

BTW, I love the new hammer and the brushes are a winner too.

Thanks for looking in.

Paul

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/



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Patricelejeune

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#1 posted 05-14-2013 12:26 AM

Great one Paul

-- Patrice lejeune

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#2 posted 05-14-2013 12:41 AM

Are you sure you didn’t break that on purpose just so you could get rid of that acrylic and replace it with wood?
Nice video Paul!

-- Paul--- Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep. — Scott Adams

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#3 posted 05-14-2013 01:01 AM

That looks like it’s going to be very STRONG!

Cool technique…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#4 posted 05-14-2013 01:11 AM

Paul do not take this as criticism in any shape or form, but a question. I noticed you were more diligent on the right side closest to the camera. You spent a goodly amount of time in this area, short powerful strokes and less on the rest of the piece. Is this to get it lined up and square against the adjoining piece?

-- Made in America, with American made tools....Shopsmith

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shipwright

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#5 posted 05-14-2013 01:16 AM

Paul I never really liked the plastic, but it gave me some light. I’ll be happier now.

jumbojack When you hammer veneer the first thing you do is apply heavy pressure in one place to lock the piece down while you “squeegee” the rest. It makes sense, as you guessed, to do this in the area where your most important fit is located.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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gfadvm

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#6 posted 05-14-2013 01:18 AM

Thanks for posting this. I never knew what you were talking about with “hammer veneering”. Really a misnomer as there is no hammering! I understand the process now. Always a good day when you learn something!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#7 posted 05-14-2013 01:46 AM

Paul Great video. Looks like a cool process.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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#8 posted 05-14-2013 01:50 AM

It is so nice to watch someone who knows what he is doing when he is doing something you don’t know about!

-- gbear, Carmichael, CA

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#9 posted 05-14-2013 02:33 AM

That makes perfect sense. Thanks Paul, I am officially looking for a pot.

-- Made in America, with American made tools....Shopsmith

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#10 posted 05-14-2013 02:33 AM

The glue you get on the top face serves as a lubricant?

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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shipwright

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#11 posted 05-14-2013 04:52 AM

Yes Loren, it lubricates the hammer and it also serves to equalize the moisture and prevent the edges from trying to curl up as they would without it. As well the veneer being upside down in the substrate glue helps keep it from cooling while the veneer side glue is applied.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#12 posted 05-14-2013 07:46 AM

That was eye opening. Even though hide glue is not available here, it’s good to know how it’s done.
I’m thinking it should be called a veneer scraper rather than a veneer hammer though.
Is it ever used for hammering ?

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#13 posted 05-14-2013 07:54 AM

Excellent video. You make it look so easy.
Jim

-- It always looks better when it's finished!

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#14 posted 05-14-2013 08:14 AM

Great demonstration Paul. The first thing I noticed was your new veneer hammer. You used the same method as Patrick Edwards and others I’ve seen, but I still learned more. I like the idea of pencil marking the strip to make sure you keep the glue more or less restricted the size of the veneer strip. I did wonder if the veneer came in thin strips or did you cut it that way, and if you did why? I can see it would be easier to control the process with thin strips, or did you do it to book match the grain? I also wondered if you had to joint the strip edges prior to gluing. Thanks much for this demonstration.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#15 posted 05-14-2013 08:21 AM

hey paul, another great training moment, and a much needed repair on friendship, will look forward to seeing the new cover in place, when is the first big sailing trip…maybe some new video this year of you sailing, and the beautiful areas you will be in…have a great day…....bob

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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