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Hide Glue for Beginners #3: A Bigger Glue-up

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Blog entry by shipwright posted 08-17-2012 01:44 AM 5200 reads 6 times favorited 37 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 2: Some myths, some Pictures and some Videos Part 3 of Hide Glue for Beginners series Part 4: A Little Hammer Veneering Video »

I know that some of you are interested in trying hide glue but think it is messy or inconvenient / slow to apply on larger glue-ups. I can tell you about it all day but maybe a video will be worth a few hundred words.

I am currently knocking a bench together using lapped layers of plywood to give me the effect of finger jointed 4 1/2” x 3 3/4” material for the trestle legs. With hide glue, the lack of need for clamping makes this a very easy lay-up to fire together with a stapler. These joints will be extremely strong and rigid and will never work loose.

I hope I made that look as easy as it is. It is as quick or even maybe quicker than pva and I didn’t get cramps in my hands from squeezing the glue bottle. The round bristle brush I’m using comes in a set of ten (two each of five different sizes) at Michaels for cheap and with the circular motion I’m using here is about the best way to apply the glue quickly and evenly.

I would like to think that I can lure some of you over to the ….. no, back to the light side with this.

Thanks for looking in.

Paul

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/



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Roger

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#1 posted 08-17-2012 02:03 AM

I’m sure those will hold up forever really.

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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#2 posted 08-17-2012 03:14 AM

You did what you wanted to do…

Very good!

Very simple, fast, and direct!

I was wondering though… when you set your nailer on the glue-pot warmer, does it hot & get glue on it? LOL

Thank you.

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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shipwright

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#3 posted 08-17-2012 03:28 AM

No Joe . I didn’t even notice I had done that.

Actually the rim of the inner glue pot (that I had out at that time) completely covers the outer “heater pot” and protects it from getting dirty. The inner pot is what I take in at night. .... and no again. It would have to stay there a long time to get hot.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#4 posted 08-17-2012 04:21 AM

Paul: I just found a magazine in my collection. It’s Woodwork Issue #20 March/April 1993 (now out of business). On the cover is a picture of a marquetry donkey. It’s like your Chevy. He – Patrick Edwards – made his from a copy in the Getty Museaum near Los Angeles.

There is a great article about Pat Edwards and his Marquetry business.

In the same issue is an article by Michael McGarry called “Hide Glue an old product rediscovered”

If you would like a copy of these articles let me know and I’ll scan them into a pdf.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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#5 posted 08-17-2012 04:41 AM

Ok Paul, you’re heating up my interest in more “traditional” glue-ups. Tell me again where you got your glue pot, Since I am entering the world of marquetry, I think I will need one. I am in the process of setting up a small class on basic marquetry in the next few weeks. I’ve found a teacher and he is an old man that wants to pass on his knowledge and veneer inventory to someone who will use it. I’ve said it before and I am sure there are many who can relate to this, glue is good but we thought it had to come out of a bottle.

Thanks for your post and continued effort to re-introduce us to the methods of traditional woodworking.

Ken Schwiebert

-- Dr. Ken, Florida - Durch harte arbeit werden Träume wahr.

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shipwright

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#6 posted 08-17-2012 06:46 AM

Karson, Thanks I’d appreciate that. I’ll PM you my email.

Ken, I got mine from Highland Woodworking but I’ve seen better prices when searching them on the internet.
You are very lucky to have a source for veneer like that. I’m very envious. Good luck on your course, you’ll love it I’m sure.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#7 posted 08-17-2012 03:44 PM

Cool Paul.
Thank you.
I just watched a few of your videos, all good stuff, I am hooked on hide glue now.
Love that sander fr the shopsmith, btw.
Best thoughts,
Mads
(Was in the garage today painting on the model you send me, will post picture it becomes really cool, thank you).

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#8 posted 08-17-2012 03:51 PM

You have convinced me Paul! I’m going to have to give it a try. I know my wife will never let me put it in the fridge though….I’ll have to use it in smaller batches.

-- I never finish anyth

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#9 posted 08-17-2012 03:52 PM

Paul,

Titebond now has Hide glue in a bottle…
... how would rate it compared to what you’re using?
... is it (TB) compromised in any way? (other than the bottle has to be squeezed to get it out. LOL )

Thank you.

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#10 posted 08-17-2012 04:14 PM

Joe, I answered that here.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#11 posted 08-17-2012 05:31 PM

... thank you… missed that… (or just simply forgot… LOL)

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#12 posted 08-18-2012 12:56 PM

Thanks for the heads-up Paul. I had read these comments but SWMBO was sleeping so I did not watch the video. You make it look so easy… because it is. :) Not even messy either. I use Gorilla glue more than most and I get a lot of comments about it being messy. In fact I even teach in my class that it is messy. However, like you, I’ve found ways to keep that to a minimum.

I’m looking around for one of the Rival pots for the warmer. I’m just dragging my feet due to my work load and scheduling. I’ll be picking up some of the 192 gram glue on Sunday.Yes, there is hope of a convert here. I can see advantages of the HHG over TB’s LHG. (I’ll make sure these acronyms get on the GG[Global Glossary].) I think just using the LHG would be a waste. I’ll let you know when I make some progress.

Thanks again for starting your crusade. Really. :)

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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rance

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#13 posted 08-18-2012 01:20 PM

Paul, Do you see any advantages of Behlen Ground Hide Glue over Brooklyn Tool and Craft Hide Glue? I’m leaning toward the Brooklyn brand.

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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#14 posted 08-18-2012 02:46 PM

Sorry Rance, not familiar with either.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#15 posted 08-19-2012 12:05 PM

I’m pretty sold on the hide glue Paul thanks to your blogs . I will be ordering some granules on the net and then I just need a glue pot. I appreciate you calling this to our attention.

The cheapest purpose built electric glue pot I’ve found (from Germany) costs about $150 + shipping, +added value tax (25%), + freight + a customs handling fee. I’m therefore looking for a less expensive solution. Unfortunately I can’t use the Rival pot, but I’m pretty sure I can find an alternative for our 220DC with a thermostat heat control.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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