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Blog entry by shack posted 02-10-2010 05:20 PM 2307 reads 0 times favorited 41 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I was readin the forums and stumbled accross this you kid asking for advice.
And as I read his post I was appaled at some of the responses he got from grown men . I have been on this site for a long time and I have never seen this behavior.

This site is in my opinion the BEST WOODWORKING SITE ON THE INTERNET. But if we allow this type of behavior to continue it will go down hill fast. I will say this if I owned this site I would ban the ones that posted such negitave comments.

This site has so much too offer the young and old. I think we have all benifited from this site.

I will stop writing now because I am so ticked off I dont wont to write the wrong things.

Edit: I forgot to thank those of you who gave that young man good sound advice.
My hats off to you!!!!

-- JohnShackleford,North Carolina

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#1 posted 02-10-2010 05:26 PM

I posted on that post saying the same thing John ,If we have to pick on 15 year olds we must be a pretty nasty person and this is not the kind of folks 99.9% of lumber jocks are.

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#2 posted 02-10-2010 05:46 PM

I posted on that site and sent him a message to encourage him. I agree fully. This is a talent that we share and someone just starting out needs the help only we can offer.

--, Making design and application one. †

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John Steffen

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#3 posted 02-10-2010 05:47 PM

Sometimes the anonymity of the internet can get the best of folks and people end up saying things they wouldn’t normally.

I’m not saying it’s right, and I agree that it has no place on this site, but people can get carried away sometimes.

-- Big John's Woodshed - Farmington, IL

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#4 posted 02-10-2010 05:51 PM

We must all strive to be the best we can. Squashing others dreams is wrong. You never know he could be the next ‘great one’ for woodworking.

-- Pat - Worker of Wood, Collector of Tools, Father of one

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#5 posted 02-10-2010 05:55 PM

I agree there were some pretty ignorant and unnecessary comments .

-- John in Belgrave (Website) ,

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Todd A. Clippinger

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#6 posted 02-10-2010 06:15 PM

A bit disappointing. Thanks for calling this one out.

I gave him my support.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana,

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#7 posted 02-10-2010 06:26 PM

as did i ,
we all need help at times .

nobody knows everything !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#8 posted 02-10-2010 06:36 PM

Wow, there are some real winners in that thread. Just sad!

-- Jim, Michigan

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#9 posted 02-10-2010 06:44 PM

My grammer and spelling are not up to standards.
So sue me….this is LJ’s and the main focus is on wood working is it not?
I say get your point across the best you can and let the project speak for itself.
We have some unbelieveable talent on this site and as many know some peoples english or grammer is not what many expect it should be. But the work they display gets very high regards and I dare those of you that made rude comments to say the same to them, ok enough of the negative comments from my end on this subject.
Rasberries to all you rude people…... :P
GO LJ’s and Happy Wood Working!

-- Can't never could do anything, to try is to advance.

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#10 posted 02-10-2010 06:48 PM

If you check out his project he uploaded it is actually pretty good so the comments about him not being able to do squat are unfounded, his skills just need honing.

Yeah some of the comments were BS. But it seemed like the majority were constructive and good points.

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#11 posted 02-10-2010 07:17 PM

While the kids post contained some poor grammar, so do the posts of many more seasoned Lumberjocks. I have seen some bad grammatical gaffes from some of the folks that were chiding that young man over his grammar. I guess it is the pot calling the kettle black…

I agree with the statement that the young man has skills / talent that simply needs to be honed and fine tuned with experience.

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#12 posted 02-10-2010 07:20 PM

I read that string of comments and I would say that 80% of them are positive. However, the other 20% of the comments are disgusting and beneath the dignity of this site. We have a few bad apples and I would like to see them reprimanded in some fashion (but I don’t know how).

I was particularly amused (and disgusted) with the comments that, while using poor grammar, criticized Jacob for poor grammar.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#13 posted 02-10-2010 07:34 PM

Something to remember … all the time:

Seven kinds of intelligence

-- -- Neil

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David Craig

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#14 posted 02-10-2010 07:42 PM

I have noticed a few incidents where people have voiced rude or unnecessary comments. If you look at that alone, this would indicate a problem. However, you will notice that each of these remarks are usually followed by a number of individuals who will put that person in their place. The public humiliation usually does the trick and people learn to think before responding, at least for a little while. Freedom of speech is not always a pretty thing, but what comments constitute as a popular or unpopular response tells much about the site. One of the things that make me proud to be part of this one is such rudeness does not get majority approval. We use the freedom of speech to reprimand and discourage such public nonsense. If you look a little closer, disapproval was apparent in the majority of the responses given and the tone of the blog became much more polite.


-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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#15 posted 02-10-2010 07:46 PM

David: beautifully said.

I also want to take the opportunity to call out the “Usual Suspects” who DID chime in, with helpful, constructive, and positive comments, for this 15 year-old kid.

-- -- Neil

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