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Blog entry by scubastine posted 03-08-2010 08:58 PM 5470 reads 2 times favorited 19 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I want to thank everyone for their respective welcome messages. This is my first post so I want to give a little more primary information about me and my shop. I’m literally starting over and am glad I have found this site to be able to share my progress with and entertain your comments and suggestions along the way. It has been over ten years since the “Ex” kept all the good stuff and i relocated. All is forgiven, as it’s just stuff, and the love of my life now said, “Go ahead and do it if it brings you joy.” Better make her something before she has too much time to think about the green light she gave me. My skills are rusty as is the craigslist find of a saw (we all gotta have one) I picked up for twenty bucks. That in itself is a hell of a story that I will remark upon as I progress.

The model is a 113.241680 with a flex drive shaft, which didn’t warm my heart totally, but for twenty bucks I can’t howl too much. Her only caveat to me was frugality!!!
As you can see, I started working on it before I started the photo shoot.

I had to partially disassemble the saw where I got it just to get it in the trunk of the car, because my guy with the truck had some trouble so I was on my own.

Here it is after I took the rest of it apart and started cleaning. I sealed it after some of the rust removal with PB’s dry lube temporarily.

You can see that the original milling marks are quite prominent and I batted around a few thoughts in my head about taking it to a machine shop,as my father was in front of a machine for forty years and I know what he’d say. The son of a machinist does not a machinist make! I did listen to him occaisionally, and have some time at a few machines when I was paying for college. So I did get the diamond hone out for awhile. Maybe an hour of equal passes then a second hour of the same, then I talked myself into a brass brush and the paste wax. Whew. She says it was seven hours total. Hmmmm. I asked if she was running a union shop and she went away for a little bit, then called her family. This is how it turned out.

Done for now. This is ultimately going to be set up in a mobile workcenter with a router table on the right, but I am caught in the chicken and the egg conundrum, as I need the saw to manufacture that.
The steel wings were badly rusted so I did what I could for them and coated them with wax, and will re-install them for current use. I think I am going to splurge a little for a solid cast iron wing for the left so I can have a true surface for sanding and jig assembly. Any thoughts?
Here is the 8020 extrusion i purchased for the homemade fence. It’s how I found this site to begin with, looking for and stumbling across the DIY fence blog. Great blog by the way. I am going to friend him. Rest of the parts are on the way, and I’m going to wait to install it after the final dimension for the workcenter are established.



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Darell

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#1 posted 03-08-2010 10:03 PM

I had one of those for over 20 years. It served me well during that time. I had to replace the flex shaft about 5 years ago. That ran over $100.00 so I hope yours doesn’t snap. You might take the shaft out of the tube and lube it up good. If it’s not frayed it should be good. I built a cabinet for mine with plenty of storage. I think the plans came from an early issue of Woodsmith magazine. There are a lot of projects posted on LJ’s to get ideas on how you would like to build yours. Enjoy! I’ll be waiting for your updates.

-- Darell, Norman, Ok.

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Clarence

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#2 posted 03-08-2010 10:29 PM

Scuba—

Good work on the saw.

I have the same saw; got it from my dad who bought it some time in the late 70s. It’s a solid saw but showing its years. I too had to replace the shaft a couple of years ago. I’m somewhat surprised that your saw still has its plastic handwheels. Sears will sell you some metal ones for about $20 each.

I’m very interested in learning more about the homemade fence. As you know the original fence is an abomination. Also, what’s this diamond hone you used to dress your top?

Thanks

-- Getting old is a good thing, but being old kinda stinks.

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scubastine

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#3 posted 03-08-2010 11:06 PM

Thanks Darell & Clarence. I have a few sets of plans for the workcenter. It’s a one car garage that is, and has been for awhile, a no-car garage. A few more hours of staring at the space should reveal a layout solution for this and a workbench plus.One set of plans is from plansnow and the other is the one you refered to D. I stared at this thing for a month before I worked up the courage to tear into it. I wonder if the shaft is similiar to the ones in weed whackers? I also priced it at sears, anticipating it being the weak link. Still $100. Might go ahead and get one before they decide to discontinue it. C, the fence is in a blog by “Hutch” titled DIY Table Saw Fence #1. The company he refers to 8020 Inc. has a “Garage Sale” on ebay where with a little searching you can piece together everything you need. Basically they are left overs and cut-offs of production runs. I was immediately inundated with marketing calls from their distributors.I ordered rail pieces a little long so I could play with the dimension of my workcenter.I can email you some catalog references they have if you would like.

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scubastine

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#4 posted 03-08-2010 11:06 PM

Thanks

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stefang

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#5 posted 03-08-2010 11:09 PM

Nice work on this. Amazing price. In the U.S. you can sure get a lot of good deals on tools that we can’t even dream about here.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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scubastine

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#6 posted 03-08-2010 11:16 PM

CLarence, I got an inexpensive diamond hone at harbour freight. Rectangular 4 grits in a plastic well base. Its on sale for $10 right now. Not the best hone i’ve ever seen but for flattening planes and knocking the tops off the grooves on my saw it is not bad. I wore out the most coarse side after a few hours though. Lot of rinsing!

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scubastine

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#7 posted 03-08-2010 11:21 PM

Stefang, I found another model with pulleys for $75 in about the same condition but she didn’t respond favorably when I ran it by her. Sorry that tools are scarce for you. There are people here that just let them go sit and get rusty and never use them.Shame on them. This one only got used for bird houses, so i’m hoping that it doesn’t have alot of wear on the shaft.

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tido

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#8 posted 03-08-2010 11:57 PM

Hi scubastine, what a good job getting the rust off that cast iron top, can you tell me a little bit the type of products and the steps that you took to get this done, i got a couple of things that i need to clean up but i havent been successful at all, i noticed that how clean and looked like a brand new top congrats good job. a got a new powermatic pm2000 that is collecting a littlebit of rust that i need to take care of, i tryed some sand paper but scratched the surface, it does not look like your at all anyways, thanx keep upthe good work

-- Ron Sanchez

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Not4Prophet

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#9 posted 03-08-2010 11:58 PM

I can’t wait to see the shop made fence. I used to have a similar craftsman ts with the exact same fence. The saw was a solid enough piece of equipment, but that fence was quite possibly the worst ever.

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scubastine

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#10 posted 03-09-2010 12:30 AM

Tido, I can tell you that I experimented with several methods from several suggestions from a web search. I dont know how bad your rust accumulation is, but if it is just surface stuff, two things worked equally. White vinegar soaked in a towel left on for 15 minutes no peeking. Longer if it is thick. Lift up the towel and wipe it clean then repeat. I rinsed it with water(sponge wrung out repeatedly made less mess) then dressed it with a soft bristle brass brush dampened in vinegar, then wiped all clean with alcohol then immediately with johnsons paste wax for floors, not cars. Three coats buffed out. Evaporust, from harbor freight was about the same but a little quicker. I had some pitting in a few areas and used a brass wire wheel to really get at them, and with a very light touch went over the entire top. Wiped down with alcohol then wax. If you wait too long to wax, the rust will come back and laugh at you in short order! Note that i did try and smooth down the milling marks with a rectangular box shaped diamond hone and physically paid for it. It did work somewhat but waxing occasionally will be easier in the long run.

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Tim Dahn

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#11 posted 03-09-2010 12:48 AM

While you have this apart (and I know this will double your cost of this saw) but now would be a good time to install some contractor pals to help with blade alignment.
http://www.in-lineindustries.com/saw_pals.html 20$ @ Woodcraft

Also, I was surprised to sell my old Craftsman rip fence and rails on fleebay.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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WayneC

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#12 posted 03-09-2010 12:53 AM

Looks like your off and running. I saw one of these yesterday at a yard sale on my way to the store. I did not ask the price since I already have a saw, but I bet it was much more than you paid.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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brianinpa

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#13 posted 03-09-2010 02:59 AM

Scuba,

Yard sales and auctions are the place to go for these hidden jewels. With a little polish, the jewels begin to shine. Nice work on your saw!

-- Brian, Lebanon PA, If you aren’t having fun doing it, find something else to do.

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tido

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#14 posted 03-09-2010 05:24 AM

Thanx a lot for the info,and thanx for taking your time

-- Ron Sanchez

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stuk4x4

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#15 posted 03-09-2010 03:19 PM

Craigslist is the new yard sale!! You did a great job on the surface and bringing this saw back to life, call me crazy but when you restore an old tool it is almost a zen like feeling.
Keep up the great work.
Walt

-- All the tools in the world wont make you a good mechanic or craftsman... however it helps!

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