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My Journey As A Scroll Saw Pattern Designer #943: Somewhat of a Rant

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Blog entry by Sheila Landry (scrollgirl) posted 574 days ago 2235 reads 0 times favorited 26 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 942: More Masks Part 943 of My Journey As A Scroll Saw Pattern Designer series Part 944: Time to Shine! »

I’m going to start today with somewhat of a rant. Those of you who know me and read here from time to time know that I try to stay on the positive side of things and that I try to look at things in a positive way. I kiddingly call it my “pink cloud” way of living. But even “pink clouds” turn grey from time to time.

Yesterday it was brought to my attention from one of my “Buddies” here on Lumberjocks that he was approached about one of his projects that was made from one of my patterns. The fellow Lumberjock asked him if he would share the pattern with him. Being ethical and also a friend, he told the person “no”, to which the person replied

“That’s OK. I’ll just make a pattern off of the pictures she puts up on her blog.”

Nice.

Apparently, this person is also a “Buddy” of mine here on Lumberjocks.com. If you are reading this now, you know who you are (or maybe there are more than one of you with this attitude – I guess I will never know!) All I have to say to you is “Thanks.” (< – - sarcasm)

If after seeing how hard Keith and I work to make nice patterns for people to use and how much we put into our business, you still want to take the time to trace screenshots and steal patterns from pictures that I post on my blog, which is also meant to help people learn and be more creative (yes – and to help my business) then there is something in your own personality and conscience that won’t even register what I am saying here. Yet in all probability, you will probably be the one complaining the loudest about how there aren’t any “decent” patterns on the market and the high cost of the ones that are.

Soon there won’t be any more decent designers left because it is impossible to make a living from doing something that others regard with no respect and they feel free to share their stolen patterns with their friends, clubs and fellow woodworkers. These will be the people that will be oblivious of the part they played in the situation and probably the first to gripe about “the way things are.”

So, unfortunately, I am going to have to start posting lower resolution, skewed or crappy pictures here. I realize that this isn’t really going to do a lot, as it only takes one customer to post a full on shot of one of my finished designs on any forum, social site, or selling page such as Etsy or Ebay to help these types of thieves. But at least it will not be me who hands things to them on a platter.

So I apologize in advance for the forthcoming crappy pictures. Thanks to my “Buddy” here on Lumberjocks (and I am sure there are others like him) I have to think a little harder before showing you something. What a shame.

And a sincere “thank you” to my Buddy who came to me and told me. While I knew it happens, I suppose it reminded me that it is closer than I realized and that I do have to watch more closely.

On a good note, I had another Buddy come to me a couple of days ago and ask me some questions. His wife was just starting to scroll saw and he needed advice on some beginner patterns, etc. I steered them to my class here and sent some information on starting her out. I also offered to send her a free pattern to start her off that I thought would be a nice appropriate pattern for a beginner.

Yesterday, not an hour after I found out about the other guy, I received an order for a pattern, along with a thank you note from the second Lumberjock. I wrote back that I would have sent the pattern for free, but he told me that because of all the time I take and how I contribute to this forum and scroll sawing in general, he wanted to buy it from me.

His timing couldn’t have been better.

I really felt down about things yesterday. While stealing designs and patterns in this way are common online, it hurt to know that it was done by someone who asked me for friendship and became my “Buddy” here. While I don’t personally know everyone on my buddy list, I always try to support them and comment on their things in positive ways and encourage them. Now I wonder which of these people has no regard for me or how hard I work. It is bad.

But I also realize that there are more people like the second Buddy that I talked about in my life. The good kind of person that makes me want to work harder and take more time to really teach people so that they have fun being creative.

I have made many, many friends here through Lumberjocks and also through my Facebook friends, and just because there are a few who are ignorant and disregard decency, it shouldn’t poison me about everyone who is kind and caring and who I consider true friends.

And that’s all I am going to say about that . . .

I had intended to write my blog today about the rhinestones that I ordered from Rhinestone Canada last Friday. I received my order yesterday and they are absolutely awesome! I will do my blog tomorrow on them, and show you how cool they are. I got back from picking them up last evening and I just HAD to play with them. And the results is amazing!

I’ll show you one picture of what I did with them to start off:

This is just to get you started. You need to come back tomorrow and see just how cool these are and how EASY they are to apply and how economical they are.

I can see a very “sparkly” future here! (And I’ll end on that good note!)

Have a great Friday! :)

-- Designer/Artist/Teacher. Owner of Sheila Landry Designs (http://www.sheilalandrydesigns.com) Scroll saw, wood working and painting patterns and surfaces. "Knowledge is Power"



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KnotCurser

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#1 posted 574 days ago

Sheila,

It is a shame to hear about this, but it isn’t a surprise I suppose. This type of person exists in all realms of life.

However, I hope that these types are very far and few between so don’t let it get you down – we still appreciate everything you do for the community and will continue to purchase your wonderful patterns!

Although I’m not quite the target audience for rhinestones, I think they look perfect on that mask!

Cheers!

-bob

-- Robert Rhoades WoodWorks / Email: rrww@rhoadesclan.com / www.rhoadesclan.com

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Sheila Landry (scrollgirl)

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#2 posted 574 days ago

Thanks, Bob! You are definitely “one of the good ones!” I truly do appreciate your support and your integrity. We really do try to keep our costs down and pass that on to our customers. But no matter how cheaply you sell something, there are always those who still want it “FREE.” In any case, thank you!

As for the rhinestones – I realize that they aren’t for everyone, but so many people have shown an interest that I want to present this as an option for ‘dressing up’ the wood. I like offering options. :)

Have a great day! Sheila

-- Designer/Artist/Teacher. Owner of Sheila Landry Designs (http://www.sheilalandrydesigns.com) Scroll saw, wood working and painting patterns and surfaces. "Knowledge is Power"

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MsDebbieP

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#3 posted 574 days ago

“to thine own self be true” ...

There are those out there who, for whatever reasons, work around paying for resources etc. “It takes all kinds” (meant in a good way).

at the end of the day you need to feel good about what you do, how you contribute to the big picture.
It’s easy to let the negativity seep in and affect our choices but the “good” will keep on doing what is right.
Yes, there is the financial element and I hope you find that balance of the practical and the Sheila-ness.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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Jamie Speirs

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#4 posted 574 days ago

Sheila last things first, that mask is amazing in fact I think it is a
sexy mask, it would make the finishing touch to any glamerous
garment.
Sheila you don’t need to change your quality, just show your images
at an angle, I know there is a proper name for it. Can I blame old age?
As both a friend and a customer of yours, I would only ever pass on your
web site address and sing praise for both the quality and the speed of service
that you give. I’m also on the waiting list for the mask plans.
I know from personal experience how helpful you are and motivating (honest
miss the dog ate my homework, I’ll have my first scrollsaw project ready soon)
you are.
Sheila have a great day and keep seeing things through the pink cloud as most
folk fall into that category.
Cyber Hugs fae a beautiful snowy Scotland
Jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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BritBoxmaker

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#5 posted 574 days ago

Sheila, I wonder how someone who takes the bread out of someone else’s mouth can have a clear conscience. I also wonder if knowing they have done this makes it taste somewhat sour to them. It should. And no, saying ‘everyone does it’ is neither true nor any kind of justification.

When I get inspiration from someone else’s work or help from them with mine I mention them. I suppose its harder to do this when you have just plainly stolen work from someone else.

I don’t do the stuff I do on here for a living but some, like yourself, do. You also help others. This should be respected.

-- Martyn -- Boxologist, Pattern Juggler and Candyman of the visually challenging. http://www.theartofboxes.com

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Rick13403

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#6 posted 574 days ago

Good morning Sheila, It is pretty bad that “buddies” cruise sites like this one to steal patterns. There are enough free sites that nobody has to steal. And if they can’t find exactly what they want, all they have to do is ask and then sit back and watch the personalized patterns pile up from the very talented designers who live to design and share for free. I will continue to shop your site because you are the tippy top of the pyramid. Keep doing what you do best!
Rick & Kathie

-- Rick - DeWalt 788 - www.thescrollerandtoler.com

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Sheila Landry (scrollgirl)

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#7 posted 574 days ago

Well, thank you all for the support. In general, it won’t change how I do things. Yesterday I had a bout of “I don’t want to do this anymore!” and “Why do I keep trying to climb up the mudslide?” , but that kind of passed. There were many more good things that came about from people such as the one incident that I mentioned above. Besides that there were probably five more notes from customers sharing, thanking and showing pictures of what they did with my designs. By the end of the day the good outnumbered the bad several times over.

Yes – changing will let the “jerk” win. I am tougher than that. I wasn’t even going to mention it here but then I started and couldn’t stop. I want this person to know that I have very little respect for them, even if I don’t know who they are. What goes around, comes around as they say.

I am grateful that this was called to my attention, and will act accordingly. I will still be me and be as helpful as I can to people and know that what I am doing is helping others enjoy their life just a little better. My favorite saying comes to mind:

“We follow where we focus.”

That is the path I will choose. :)

(((HUGS)))) Sheila

-- Designer/Artist/Teacher. Owner of Sheila Landry Designs (http://www.sheilalandrydesigns.com) Scroll saw, wood working and painting patterns and surfaces. "Knowledge is Power"

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rustfever

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#8 posted 573 days ago

The theft of our “Intellectual Work Product” is very often done in my industry [construction], also.

I share your pain. I have found I must limit the description of my work, so as to keep those without knowledge, from learning my 4 decades of knowledge, and using it to undercut my price.

Root of the problem in my business, is the moral failure within the business community to respect knowledge and skill. They, instead, salute the ‘Lowest Price’ provider.

I know of no way to prevent this theft. As you have described, obscuring the scope and the footprint seems to be the only way to reduce the frequency.

Thanks for a great column. Good luck in your efforts.

-- Rustfever, Central California

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Bernie

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#9 posted 573 days ago

Yes this issue of stealing (no other word) needs to be discussed in the open. I’ve never bought anything from you Sheila because I don’t do a whole lot of scrolling. I subscribe to ScrollSaw magazine (10 years) and get all the patterns I need from them. I use my scroll saw as a support to make my products look better then say a bookcase. I’ll scroll something into the skirt on the bottom. I also want to point out that I’m retired and living comfortably and although my wife and I are not even near being rich, we don’t need an income. So everything I’ve made has been given away or kept for ourselves.

To further the “stealing” issue, folks should be aware that if you do legitimately own a magazine pattern, you can not use the pattern 100 times and sell a bunch for $. As a magazine subscriber, you are limited to 5 or 10 uses of the pattern. Any more uses needs to be brought to the attention of the creator of that pattern and I’m sure you will be paying a legitimate fee.

I know you’re hurt because a buddy did slap you in the face, but know from a lurker (not a customer) that your comments have been encouraging and helpful. I have an unusual work bench that I’ve posted on LJ and other woodworking sites because I want to share the idea. Lots of folks have commented positively on my bench and my ideas and some have said they will use some of my ideas. That’s OK because I’m happy to share my ideas. But it did upset me when I saw a poster post a similar bench as his idea and that person never even posted a comment on my bench.

Lastly, we all know about those thiefs. We’ve seen them at the malls parked in handicap zone when there is nothing wrong with them. They don’t hold the door for others right behind them. They sit on crowded subways and watch pregnant ladies holding on to their other young children and the poles. They are cruel to the waitress who is having a bad day. We know who you are. Your arrogance gives you away!

-- Bernie: It never gets hot or cold in New Hampshire, just seasonal!

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HillbillyShooter

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#10 posted 573 days ago

Agree with everyone and especially MsDebbieP: “to thine own self be true” …

You are unfortunately a victim of the world we now live in and the internet age. I have a mantra that I try to remember for instances like this and similar problems: “You can’t cure stupid.” And, you can’t cure all the problems that have been created in the current culture where many seem to believe that they have a right to other people’s property, life’s work, time, productivity and money.

Best wishes, and remember you have a large community of supporters, even if a lot of us don’t comment all the time.

-- John C. -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth." George Washington

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woodsmithshop

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#11 posted 573 days ago

your rhinestones look great. Have you ever thought about filling in the voids of the scroll work with “Inlace” ?
just a thought after seeing your rstones,
maybe you have already done it, idk.

-- Smitty!!!

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Celticscroller

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#12 posted 573 days ago

Hi Sheila, I’m with Debbie – “to thine own self be true”. Your work is wonderful and your generosity in sharing your ideas on this blog is a beautiful thing. I love what you did with the mask and the rhinestones add to the beauty. I’ll be interested to read your blog tomorrow on how well they worked.

Regretfully in this internet age there are those out there who cross boundries and believe they have a right to take another’s work. Writers, photographers, musicians and designers are all faced with this issue. I agree with Jamie, photograph your items at an angle and make it hard for thieves to copy your work. I do believe there is a way of watermarking your photographs so that when a person tries to print them from your blog, the watermark will show right across the printed copy. I’m afraid I don’t know how it’s done but I know a lot of photographers use this method if they are showing their items on the internet.
Keep the faith Sheila (which I know you do!) For every unethical person out there, there are 100 good people.
Enjoy your day.

-- Anna http://richmondcarvers.com/

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MrsN

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#13 posted 573 days ago

I am sorry that you have to deal with people like that. I don’t know how anyone could read your blog and think “I will steal from her” you are too nice and put way too much time in to your stuff to just rip-off.

On another note, I love the rhinestones!!! they are so awesome! the natural wood with just a bit of bling is so awesome!
How well do the rhinestones stick with the hotmelt stuff?

-- ----- www.KNWoodworking.com ----- --

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Lee A. Jesberger

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#14 posted 573 days ago

It takes all kinds, Sheila… imagine living in that person’s world, where they feel stealing a few dollars worth of patterns from you makes sense, and actually brings them some sort of satisfaction. What a life they must lead.

Great looking mask.

Lee

-- by Lee A. Jesberger http://www.prowoodworkingtips.com http://www.ezee-feed.com

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Richforever

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#15 posted 573 days ago

What goes around, comes around. What people do to others will eventually be done to them (good or bad). The longer it takes, the more severe it will be.

-- Rich, Seattle, WA

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