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My Journey As A Scroll Saw Pattern Designer #862: New Order and Question Regarding Double Sided Masking Tape

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Blog entry by Sheila Landry (scrollgirl) posted 619 days ago 1742 reads 0 times favorited 16 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I’ll first start off with saying that I had a great drawing day yesterday. I finished drawing up the project I showed you yesterday, and even went over everything and ‘fine tuned’ the lines. I am very anxious to begin the cutting process and see how they look when they come to life.

But then . . .

I received a wholesale order for Christmas ornament kits. Wanting to stay on top of things there, I need to change gears and spend the day cutting that order.

This is a good thing though, and while it will delay my new project a little, we should be able to button this order up in a day. I plan to be cutting them all by Friday.

So for today, I am going to ask my readers for some input back on an issue that I have encountered recently. A couple of days ago, I had a customer call me looking for double sided masking tape. He had told me that he had read about using it for applying scroll saw patterns and was having trouble locating some.

I thought the task of locating the stuff would be simple enough, and did a quick Google search to see what I could find. After all, we weren’t reinventing the wheel here. Certainly there must be somewhere that offered it.

What I found really shocked me. I found the tape, but when I saw the price of it, it really threw me for a loop.

Here is the link to the tape on Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/3M-410M-Double-Sided-Masking/dp/B000ZJOJKI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351769760&sr=8-2&keywords=double+sided+painters+tape+3

For those that don’t want to click, the price for the tape on amazon is $107.45 for a three pack of 2” tape that is 36 yards long each. They say that is a savings of 56% from the suggested retail price of $243.74 for these three rolls.

Can anyone tell me why this is so expensive??? Is it lined with gold (or oil?) For goodness sake – it s MASKING TAPE which last time I looked consisted of paper and glue.

If anyone knows where to find this stuff at a reasonable price, please share your information. I can see how this would be a great way to stick on patterns for scroll sawing, but not if the tape costs more than the wood we are cutting. There has to be a reason and I would think that there would be an alternative product to the 3M brand that costs so much.

I appreciate your help, as will many other scroll sawyers.

(I want to let you all know that I will be cutting most of the day, and not able to answer until later tonight. But I will compile any information posted at the various places I post the blog and give a summary about it tomorrow. Thanks so much for your help!)

I wish you all a wonderful November! :)

-- Contributing Editor, Creative Woodworks and Crafts Magazine, If you like reading my blog, come visit at Sheila Landry Designs http://www.sheilalandrydesigns.com "Knowledge is Power"



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MsDebbieP

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#1 posted 619 days ago

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BertFlores58

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#2 posted 619 days ago

Hi Sheila,
The more people use it, the more price it will raise. The one I use is only the cheapest because i use it to stick temporary wood pattern. I think the more expensive one are those permanent mounting double sided tape which requires strength. I can see some hook hangers that has only mounting tape and can hold as brackets. For woodworkers, we have to consider how it will be used.

BTW, an early good tidings for this Christmas. The yuletide orders are there to attend. Good Luck.
Have a nice day.

-- Bert

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jerrells

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#3 posted 619 days ago

I saw this post some time ago and really thought that it does not fit me. I just use regular blue tape and spray adhesive. It would seem to me to be a much more cumbersome way of attaching the pattern – however I have been rightly accused of being “old fashioned”

-- Just learning the craft my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ practiced.

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KnotCurser

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#4 posted 619 days ago

I think Debbie has posted a great link with what the tape should cost, still a tad expensive if you ask me though.

Have you shown the person how most scrollers adhere patterns – with spray adhesive (or spray adhesive over packing tape as I choose to do it)??? He must have a very specific need I suppose if he chooses to spend that much money and time at it.

Good luck with the latest order!

PS: I just remembered I have a blog on how I affix patterns to wood – feel free to refer him to here.

-bob

-- Robert Rhoades WoodWorks / Email: rrww@rhoadesclan.com / www.rhoadesclan.com

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Jamie Speirs

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#5 posted 619 days ago

$7.95 for two 36 yard rolls

It is great stuff I use it for holding router jigs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INTERTAPE-76196-2x36yd-Double-Sided-Indoor-Carpet-Tape-/190676466629?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6533fbc5

jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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PSUmike

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#6 posted 619 days ago

Debbie,

I was about to post almost the same link when I saw your’s from 10 min ago.
http://www.uline.com/Grp_239/3M-Double-Sided-Tapes

I’ve been using something from Home Depot called Rhino Carpet Tape, which I’m not very thrilled with. I generally use it for patern routing, and it seems to slide around a little too much unless I stick the workpieces in the bench vise first and really crank down on them. Then, it’s almost impossible to peel them apart after I’m done. There’s also a lot of gummy residue left over that I basically have to keep pressing my fingers hard against while I slide them across the workpiece to get it all off. I’d love to find a cheaper and easier to use product, so advice is appreciated.

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#7 posted 619 days ago

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#8 posted 619 days ago

well i have looked around and can see some tapes that will do the same thing for a normal price, its really hard for me to see why tape would cost so much, i dont care how many people use it, its tape, and glue…....but there is tape available as miss debbie has shown for a very reasonable price, but i can see there is also some folks out there who are very proud of there tape, i wish them well…i like the spray adhesive myself, after im done i use some mineral spirits ro release it and it cleans up the glue at the same time, but there are many ways to do this….and one just needs to find the one they like and if they want to spend there life savings on tape…well then…go for it…lol….....this was interesting…i never would have thought the price of this tape would be so high..maybe chewing gum should be used…lol

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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Kindlingmaker

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#9 posted 619 days ago

Avery® Removable Glue Stic 151 $1.85
http://www.avery.com/avery/en_us/Products/Crafts-&-Scrapbooking/Adhesives/Removable-Glue-Stic_00151.htm

3M 238 Removable Double Sided Tape $5.61
http://www.amazon.com/3M-Removable-Double-Sided-Tape/dp/B001390CK0

This is what I have used. I print my project on the label paper, place on clean wood, cut and remove.

Post-it Super Sticky Removable Full Sheet Labels, 8.5×11 Inches, White, 25 per Pack (2500-L) $18.00

Avery® White Full-Sheet Labels for Inkjet Printers with TrueBlock™ Technology, 8-1/2 inches x 11 inches, Pack of 25 (8165) $11.00

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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MrsN

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#10 posted 619 days ago

in one of the recent scrolling magazines there was a tip about using a double sided dropcloth masking tape, later I saw on facebook an update saying that the company that made the tape recently quit distributing to the US.

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MrsN

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#11 posted 619 days ago

http://paintersmategreen.com/Products/Double_Sided_Dropcloth_Tape.aspx
Painter’s Mate Green® Double-Sided Dropcloth Tape, is the product that was featured in the article

I found another forum posting about it here
http://www.scrollsawer.com/forum/publisher-feedback/46600.htm
that article lists two places that you can buy it online
https://store.acehardwaretitusville.com/inet/storefront/store.php?mode=showproductdetail&product=2595
http://www.integritysupply.com/Shurtape-DF-191---Painter's-Mate---Green.aspx
hope this helps.

-- ----- www.KNWoodworking.com ----- --

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Steven Davis

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#12 posted 618 days ago

My guess is that it is actually 3 cases, not 3 rolls. There are very similar tapes at a fraction of the cost.

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Celticscroller

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#13 posted 618 days ago

This is one of the things I love about LJ. A question is asked and there is lots of very helpful feedback. I have certainly learnt something today – I didn’t know there was such a thing as double sided masking tape! I’ve used double sided tape which I buy in the dollar store for my scrapbooking projects. It would probably work on wood as well.

-- Anna http://richmondcarvers.com/

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#14 posted 618 days ago

I use a lot of double sided tape but I figured none of the info I could give would help as its UK based, not US/Canada based. Sorry.

-- Martyn -- Boxologist, Pattern Juggler and Candyman of the visually challenging. http://www.theartofboxes.com

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Kindlingmaker

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#15 posted 618 days ago

One of the thing about priceing is that one has to take into account the width and length of the roll. The simple Scotch tape is rather inexpensive until you compare the length of the roll to the more expensive tapes. Yes there are many tapes that one has to wonder who would buy them at that price but then again I worked for a company that bought rolls of tape at near or more than a $100 a roll and they bought cases. Some priceing depends on whether a “pedagree” comes with the tape, yes I am serious. Is the tape a mass production tape the sells to everyone or only a few and with this there’s that price thing again. Remember why a lot of woodworking tools cost so much? Its because there are so few woodworkers that would buy that product so the price is higher because so few are made and costs do have to be recovered. Tapes are the same way in a lot of cases. Low demand = high price, high demand and the price can be lowered. Seems backwards but what company would set up an entire production line with all the equipment and materials to only sell a few articules unless the articules had a high price.
I think I started blabbing way too much there… I will keep looking for tape…

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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