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Here's What Has Invaded My Shop #2: Completing the Face Frame and Carcass

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Blog entry by Scott Bryan posted 12-13-2009 06:30 PM 6099 reads 0 times favorited 16 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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As part of the Introduction to Woodworking 101 continued I introduced Jon to the part of furniture construction that most woodworkers truly enjoy- sanding and glue-ups! This is a picture that was taken about a month ago of him sanding the right side of the vanity.

With this glue-up, using biscuits, the face frame is being attached to the carcass. This was a challenging glue-up given the number of biscuits involved and the size of the cabinet. It was helpful to have two of us working together on this. If I had to do this by myself it would have been a challenge to get the clamps on before the glue started setting. Attaching the face frame may have been easier if we had cut a biscuit channel in the carcass edges but I guess I am still old school since we cut individual biscuit slots to attach the face frame.

Side view:

At this stage the cabinet is ready for staining/finishing (with plenty of lessons in sanding, of course) and construction of drawers and the door. The finished cabinet will be posted shortly.

I will say that this certainly has been a learning experience for both of us. As a self taught woodworker I have developed my own set of skills and techniques. Having another person in the shop did give me an opportunity to both demonstrate and explain different processes. In doing so Jon pointed out some things that made the process and assembly more efficient and/or faster. This just reaffirmed my basic philosophy that we can both learn from and teach others irrespective of our individual skill level.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine



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griff

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#1 posted 12-13-2009 06:52 PM

Looks great Scott , Looking forward to seeing the completed project

-- Mike, Bruce Mississippi = Jack of many trades master of none

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#2 posted 12-13-2009 06:56 PM

2 cents

side stiles generally go from top to bottom, then the top and bottom rail go between side stiles. Then center stiles go between top and bottom rails, and center rails go between center stiles.

you have come up with something entirely new but we all know that experience is a tough teacher as it gives the test first and the lesson later.

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Cato

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#3 posted 12-13-2009 08:07 PM

Scott, bet you have had fun working with your son on this!! Whenever my son has helped me on a project, I have enjoyed it immensely. If Jon gets the bug, then it will make Xmas shopping easy for you.

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cabinetmaster

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#4 posted 12-13-2009 08:12 PM

Nice job Scott. Hope your son catches the bug and joins us on LJ’s.

-- Jerry--A man can never have enough tools or clamps

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#5 posted 12-13-2009 08:36 PM

Wish I had all those clamps. Cabinet is nice too!

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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Scott Bryan

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#6 posted 12-13-2009 08:40 PM

Roman, I agree. That is how I would have made the face frame. Jon worked with me on the design and construction and this was his idea (of course despite being married only 1 year he got approval from my DIL for the design and color). I really could not see any problems with the construction, other than as you say, it is different. Since it was his cabinet we went with the construction as he wanted.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#7 posted 12-13-2009 09:02 PM

Looks good to me. I’m sure your son is quickly becoming a woodworker. Great to have all those clamps. Working with biscuits is pretty easy and is more than strong enough. The only thing I don’t like about them is the cost. Biscuits are pretty expensive over here. at $10 for a bag with 24 biscuits regardless of the size. I have made some out of baltic birch plywood and even though they aren’t pre-compressed they tested (my own test) stronger than the Lamello biscuits. I stack cut them 6 at a time on my scroll saw.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#8 posted 12-13-2009 09:29 PM

Structurally I don’t believe there is an issue with which way the stile and rails run, however, with the rails running through the stiles you end up with exposed end grain which is a more difficult finishing issue if you want the stiles and rails to have a homogeneous finish.

Btw when did biscuit construction qualify as ‘old school’?...lol

-- criticism: the art of analyzing and evaluating the quality of an artistic work...

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#9 posted 12-14-2009 12:27 AM

Don’t know where I would put all those clamps Scott….. I would have to build on to house them.
Fine job thanks for the post.
Dave

-- Dave Leitem,Butler,Pa.,http://dlcarver.etsy.com

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#10 posted 12-14-2009 01:26 AM

Hi Scott

Looks like a special cabinet will done. What makes it extra special is you guys did it together. Looking forward to seeing the finished project. Thanks for posting.

God Bless
tom

-- Mc Bridge Cabinets, Iowa

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#11 posted 12-14-2009 01:50 PM

Looks good, I think sanding is everyone’s favorite part of woodworking isn’t it. Look forward to seeing completed project.

-- Dave from "The Sawdust Shed"

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#12 posted 12-14-2009 02:08 PM

a great team project , scott ,

i bet there will be many more coming ,
now that your DIL is learning about
’ honey do lists ’ .

have a great holidays !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#13 posted 12-18-2009 08:03 PM

Looking really good Scott. Its nice to teach someone a thing or two about woodworking. Its then that I realize how much I know. I then get on LJ’s and realize how much I don’t know. Looking forward to the next installment.

-- Brad, Oregon- The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first.

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#14 posted 12-18-2009 08:20 PM

looks like a fantastic journey… this piece will carry some good stories with itself for years to come

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#15 posted 12-25-2009 05:18 AM

Looks great Scott, nice job!!!

-- J.G.Murphy

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