Wiki-crap and the Wood Whisperer

little do they know
I guess none of them have found their life balance in woodworking!

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

does it really matter…it’s wiki…the majority of what’s on there is malarky anyways…I’m 26 and I just said malarky…sad

-- Cheers

it must be because it is March, Shawn

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

what is wikipedia?

-- Phil, Chattanooga,TN

Wiki pedia is like an encyclopedia only some wik-idiots make it up as they go along.

But I’m up for an argument this morning.

Rob, it isn’t worth the effort. It’s like a bunch of real idiots got together over espresso and biscotti and said “Let’s make up our own encyclopedia and put it on the internet.”.

I found no place to inform them on how to update their information.

-- http://ye-olde-cabinet-shoppe.com/

Wikipedia is one of the new attempts at making information to all people without the concern for copyright issues. The goal is to build on each other’s knowledge rather than hoarding information and restricting our knowledge, wisdom, evolution.

This new direction (of open sourced material rather than copyright) can be seen in a number of differnt venues and it quite exciting, really, to watch it develop and iron out the kinks.

We have recently had a big discussion about copyright of things we have found in magazines. Wouldn’t it be great if everyone would say, “Here’s my information – take it and make it better/different. Enjoy.”

And, although we may not like their response to The WoodWhisperer’s information it does show that there are processes in place that try to keep the information correct and appropriate.

Having said that, I don’t use Wikipedia a lot but it is a good starting place for information. You do have to (as with any information) continue to do your research to ensure that what you have read is valid.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

It’s only a matter of time. Marc (TWW) will be world-wide household name and then the wik-idiots (I liked that Obi) will ask Marc to write something up for their website.

-- Making sawdust is what I do best

There comes a point when people call “Opinion” information, and ideas as fact… and next thing you know we’ll all have come from a monkey…

-- http://ye-olde-cabinet-shoppe.com/

The stuff they are missing is that his podcast is #1 for the hobby Category according to iTunes, he has been on TV in Canada on a how that features podcasts, he made the list of best of podcasting 2006 put together by iTunes staffers, he is already sponsored by Festools, Powermatic and Finewoodworking.com. I think he is in the top 5 most well known names of woodworkers among those woodworkers who are online.

-- Drew, Pleasant Grove, Utah

someone needs to make a list of these appearances and add them to the Wiki page.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

That’s our Marc… The Spagman

-- http://ye-olde-cabinet-shoppe.com/

The process is what is pissing me off, Debbie. Instead of trying to promote the dissemination of information, which is wikipedia’s main goal, they assume we are full of crap and simply trying to advertise some nobody into existence.

-- Rob McCune

I hear you. And your plan is a good one—come here and have other people post some more info so that they’ll see that it is not just advertising.

I also agree that TWW needs to be recognized. Drew has a great list of credits there. If the “facts” about these appearances can be identified, I think that Wiki will add him to their list without further question.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

Let keep things in perspective…Wikipedia is not known for its factual content. just ask Simbad, (the comic, not the sailor.) Their open sourse approach has lead to many factual errors in the content that they present. I as a rule no longer let my son use them as a reference sourse in any of his school papers, unless he is writing fiction. If the staff has such an elitest attitude twards woodworking, why bother. They probably don’t approve of NASCAR, Cracker Barrel or anything else that one might be pictured as “country.” I feel sorry for them if that is the case.

-- Greg - Charles Town, WV

LOL I never considered woodworking to be “country!” That’s what I liked about Marc, he took it mainstream to be a woodworker. He “rolls” with a Sponge Bob pencil after all. :D Maybe I should listen to more country music now.

-- Rob McCune

I was under the impression that anyone could log into wiki, and add, or update any entry… thereby increasing any likelyhood that any information in there isn’t entirely correct.

Some tv reporters have looked themselves up and found errors with regard to their date and place of birth.

There are others who are / are trying to make thier own online encycopedias with solicited contributors, experts in the field, paid research staff…. these should be much more credible…

but alas, NPR mentioned one, just last week, with a conservative slant (to take on the liberal wiki), that spoke of the origin of Kangaroos as having descended from an Adam and Eve Kangaroo, etc…

Wouldn’t let students cite from there either!

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

DEATH TO THE WIKI !!!!

-- http://ye-olde-cabinet-shoppe.com/

Wow!! I am honored that you started the wiki Rob. That is so cool. I hope they dont delete it. I won’t have anything to brag about if they do. lol

-- For free video tutorials and other cool woodworking stuff, check out http://www.TheWoodWhisperer.com

Does that make me a brown noser? :D

-- Rob McCune

Of course it does Rob. :)
Nicole went to the wiki page and added some other Wood Whisperer facts that might help convince the wikipedians. And it looks like someone gave an approval so lets hope things keep going in the direction.

-- For free video tutorials and other cool woodworking stuff, check out http://www.TheWoodWhisperer.com

Awesome… Glad to hear we can help… Let us know if we can do more…

Drew

-- Drew, Pleasant Grove, Utah

Hey Rob,

I just wanted to let you know that the powers that be deleted the entry at wikipedia. What a load of crap. I read a few of the user profiles and the ‘godlike’ personas amaze me.

Anyhow, Marc and I really appreciate the thought. I’m sure one day we’ll be listed. I wonder at that point if I could make the decision to delete it :)

-- Visit us at http://thewoodwhisperer.com

Nicole… nice to have you here.. now I can stare at you all day long ;) And we don’t care if WW is in WIKI… we never needed them before and we sure as… well, we don’t need them now.

They appear to be a bunch of band-wagon jumpers, and there will come a time that they will wish that they’d have given the Spag-man his due… then he will be rich and famous and it’ll be too late for them.

Wiki will come to mean “We had no vision and so we perished in the dust of the Lumberjocks.”

-- http://ye-olde-cabinet-shoppe.com/

I had noticed Nicole. Thanks for the support though. Perhaps when Wikipedia decides your husband is noteworthy enough to have an article in his name, you will make it clear to them that he was already notable when they chose to delete the first article and ask them to remove it again. You might say I am a little bit disillusioned by their response. I appreciate what I have learned from Marc and will continue to be a fan. I also appreciate the support you give your husband in his endeavors. Thank you.

-- Rob McCune

Ya know Rob? For factual stuff I use Google and Marc is at the top of page 1.

-- http://ye-olde-cabinet-shoppe.com/

I guess you have to be a woodworker to understand. Perhaps they need to be more clear on what qualifies.
I hope they get all the bugs ironed out – the concept is great.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

Wiki… just another four-letter-word

-- http://ye-olde-cabinet-shoppe.com/