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Blog entry by Moron posted 01-21-2008 08:20 PM 4912 reads 0 times favorited 20 comments Add to Favorites Watch

A few years back, my better half and I decided to close the doors of the leased shop. sell the house, buy a hobby farm and build a new shop.

Not one staying put for too long I wanted the shop to look like a barn so that it fit within the the look of the local rural community and in the event we sell, it could double as a horse/livestock barn.

I felt I needed a working footprint of 1,500 sq feet, measureing 30’ x 50’ with 12’ ceilings. In hindsight I should have made it 24’ 60’...............that would saved money on materials and trusses but whats a man to do once its there.

Had a hole dug for the footings and foundation walls and there the challenges began. Because the township wouldnt let the hieght of the “shop” exceed the hieght of the roof of the house, we had to call it an “agricultural building” which in turn made everything escalate in price because the building codes change. So the footing needed to be reinforced with steel rod (lots of it) and needed to measure 16” deep x 30” wide and the foundation needed to be 12” thick and lots of steel rod.

The shed roof of the side of the building needed footings measuring 4’ x 4’ x 16” thick to support 16” dia concrete pileons.

Then came the floor. Ridgid insulation 2” thick, followed by thick poly, followed by miles and miles of tubing hand tied to the steel grid for radient heat…..........I walked funny for weeks afterward.

The walls were framed in 2×6 and the ceiling trusses were assembled in three sections. While we assemmbled the three sections of the second floor trusses, others framed the four walls, a crane was brought in and lifted each wall, then lifted the first section of the upper floor, loaded the subfloor on that, some sheeted the floor and the crane dropped the next section, sheeted that and then the final section, then swung around and lifted the roof trusses up. The floor trusses are 3’ thick on 16” centers so that I didnt need any columns on the inside. You could park a cement truck up there.

gotta love the flag and view up the driveway

and the roof trusses on

and the shed roof on

and finally while battling snow, freezing rain and high winds we finished up the steel roofing

just in time for winters onslaught

pardon the mess on the inside but much has changed since this picture was taken (mind you the mess is forever lurking around the next hour

The outside is finally complete, done in a vertical pine shiplap with white aluminum fascia and soffit. the leaks are finally gone, the back up heat system is in…...........next year I hope to open up the second floor and frame in the walls of the shed roof area, add a door from main shop to shed area and use faux stone on the walls of the shed…..............maybe even enlarge my windows to the original size.

or fencing

or re surface the drive

or insulate the second floor

or get my wood boiler

or maybe do like I occasionally do, grab a small cooler, fill itup with brown trout, put a lawn chair in the mddle of the field and stare at it <vbg>

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso



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GaryK

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#1 posted 01-21-2008 08:23 PM

That’s one might big shop!

I like the heating in the floor.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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Moron

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#2 posted 01-21-2008 08:36 PM

Thanks

Any shop is better then no shop at all !

Cheers

it doesnt matter how big your shop is, kinda like a savings account in that its never big enough!

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Tony

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#3 posted 01-21-2008 08:38 PM

MONSTER SHOP – The only way to go – good luck for the future

-- Tony - All things are possible, just some things are more difficult than others! - SKYPE: Heron2005 (http://www.poydatjatuolit.fi)

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Scott Bryan

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#4 posted 01-21-2008 09:03 PM

Great looking shop. I love the size and the heating. You don’t have any excuse not to be in the shop.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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Partridge

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#5 posted 01-21-2008 09:42 PM

if your going to do it. ......DO ITTT.

-- I get out in the shop when I can

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Thos. Angle

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#6 posted 01-21-2008 10:00 PM

A real dandy shop!! I can see you sitting and just looking at it… yeah, I would too. Glad you had to do that roof. I don’t do well on steep roofs. I’m pretty chicken. Glad we got to see it.

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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Moron

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#7 posted 01-21-2008 10:11 PM

The roof was…......scarey. I had a friend of Mennonite background help me. He claimed the steel on the 24/12 pitch part, was tooooo long so we cut off 4”. Should have never listened to him as it cost me several thousand to fix his bad judgemnt….........ce le ve!

The whole time we were doing the roof, the snow was blowing so hard that one had to lietrally shake like a dog to see where to screw it down. The last pic of the man on the roof. We tied him to that ladder and used the truck to pull him up the roof….............not sure if thats what you are supposed to do but it worked.

I’ve never been really big on hieghts but after awhile,you just get used to it????

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#8 posted 01-22-2008 02:38 AM

Roman:
Have you figured out a use for the second floor yet?
It would make a great granny suite.

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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Moron

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#9 posted 01-22-2008 03:20 AM

I was thinking it would make a good spot for her, my Mrs.
Then she could keep it clean
do the snow
fix the road
pay the maintenance fee on the lanes.
buy the
make the closets
paint drywall cut the grass
keep the cars, trucks vans and buses going

Bob

she wont trade so I guess its mine

<vbg>

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#10 posted 01-22-2008 03:48 AM

Fancy!

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne

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Moron

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#11 posted 01-22-2008 08:45 PM

Hey Bob#2

In all seriousness, it is yet undecided but here are a f…........few choices.

1.Expand the shop and use the upper level for carving, the lathe, design and storage.
2.the wife does quilting, perhaps a quilting store and or quilting classes…......not fancy on that
3.teach carving courses and woodworking courses, plenty of room for benches, black boards
4. make an apartment and rent it out
5. Put a kiln up there…......self explanatory
6. Put a showroom/office up there

open for ideas?

BTW….........the shop isnt that fancy, four walls, a roof and a floor, heat and hydro with a small bar fridge, a smoker, a BBQ <vbg>

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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MsDebbieP

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#12 posted 01-23-2008 04:03 PM

quite the workspace you created!!!

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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john

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#13 posted 01-23-2008 04:20 PM

Nice shop Roman ,I would love to have a heated work area that big .

Are you putting some type of lifting system for the upper door?

-- John in Belgrave (Website) http://www.extremebirdhouse.com , http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=112698715866

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Moron

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#14 posted 01-23-2008 07:19 PM

I wish heat were free

If God grant me enough time on this spaceship, then yes. I’ld also like to have a dummy waiter type elevating device from main floor to second floor. .......maybe between the two I could a spray booth upstairs?

One daughter attending University, one just finished University, three more to go doesnt leave much spare change.

Cheers

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Taigert

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#15 posted 05-30-2008 09:33 AM

Roman,
Thats a nice shop you have. Looking at the pic’s make me miss Canada, I’m originaly from BC. One of my daughters lives in Ottawa, and the other is down in Picton or as she calls it Prince Edward County. The one in Picton sells Real Estate. I was looking at some of her listings, it made me want to pack up and head north. The price of homes where I’m at just 1/2 hr north of Seattle is crazy. $400k is the starting price, all that will get you is a small rambler on a 1/4 acre in someones back yard. If you have a view of the water it’s a million plus. You would think it would be a good place for custom woodworking, Wrong. Most of these people are living way beyond their means. Everything looks good, but their broke. Part of the problem is that the people who were here before the prices went through the roof are now getting taxed to death. The ones who bought when the prices went up, have either lost thier high paying jobs when the Dot com bust happened, or got killed in the stock market.
Ten years ago we looked at moving to Canada but got into it with Immigration Canada over my wife. They did not like the fact she was only a stay at home Mom (without a Medical degree) at the time. That and she was not from a country where they seem to find all the others that they are letting into the country. She’s just a plain ol’ girl from Indiana, I’ll leave that one where it’s at. They guy we spoke to at Immagration Canada was from India and could hardly speak english where you could understand him, and he was telling me that it will be very, very difficult to bring her into Canada. He said we could pay the $1000.00 ($500.00 application fee and $500.00 filing fee) to apply and that it could take up to five years to get a answer. So to say the least I was not very happy camper. My wife dragged me out of there before someone called the Horsemen. As you said earlier Ce le ve?

-- Taigert - Milan, IN

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