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Blog entry by robscastle posted 08-27-2014 09:44 AM 995 reads 0 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch

This blog is to make LJs aware (if not already) of the fact the pictures posted as projects and blogs are being accessed and used on other websites.

It doesn’t surprise me that its happening but I was left to wonder how it could be possible without the authors permission or the LJs web site administrators allowing it.

Here is an example I found whilst searching for more Sam Maloof style joints.

I did another search and found this website showing amost the exact pictures.

How it came to my attention was that I recognised the images of those of mine and that I had posted on the LJs site only

I tried to google the site but could not assess it.

Interesting stuff!

-- Regards Robert



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Slemi

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#1 posted 08-27-2014 10:05 AM

It would be nice to post links to the google pages. The pictures here are too small to see any details from them.

Regards!

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stefang

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#2 posted 08-27-2014 12:16 PM

As a hobbyist I’m not too worried about it, but maybe others would be. I’m not sure about what the consequences would be.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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hotncold

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#3 posted 08-27-2014 12:20 PM

I believe that what you are seeing are the search results from Google Images. You should be able to click a link on the images page and be taken to the source of the image (assuming the source is still active).

-- Dennie - Tennessee - Every Pro was once an Amateur. Every Expert was once a Beginner. So dream Big and start Now!

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PASs

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#4 posted 08-27-2014 02:18 PM

I routinely download images that I use as inspiration or guidance.
Although I think it is bad taste to repost without due credit to the originator you must remember that anything posted that is available for viewing is also available for either downloading or copying from the screen.
I’ve started watermarking most of the photos I upload, and I embed EXIF tags as well.

-- Pete, "It isn't broken, you just aren't using it right."

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Billy E

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#5 posted 08-27-2014 02:20 PM

Once it goes on the internet, you may never get it back! Makes me wonder why people post some of the stuff they post on facebook, etc….

-- Billy, Florence SC

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Brad

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#6 posted 08-27-2014 03:03 PM

PASs, would you please post one of your watermarked pictures? Would love to follow your example.

Also, how does embedding EXIF tags help you establish the provenance/ownership of your photos?

-- "People's lives are their own rewards or punishments."

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Kookaburra

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#7 posted 08-27-2014 03:37 PM

I am not sure which of your photos you are talking about Robert, but as noted above it happens all of the time. It would be a full time job to track down all of the internet uses, especially since most are personal collections and photo sites like Photobucket. But if they are used for any kind of commercial use, LJ should send a cease and desist letter to the offending site.

I used to be an admin on an art site and people stole our work all the time. For first world companies, a cease and desist letter was usually adequate. For uses where the horse had left the barn, such as press articles or adverts, we usually were able to get a posted acknowledgement of the source of the work and sometimes compensation.

The EXIF data CAN help but it is easily stripped and can be edited using Photoshop! So if someone is knowingly stealing work, they can avoid that trap.

Many site are now adding a watermarked logo to uploaded pictures to make them much more difficult to use, but again a journeyman Photoshop user can strip those.

A cool tool which examines pixel patterns and colors is Tineye.com. You put in the URL of a photo and it shows other places it has found it on the web. It has not indexed 100% of sites but if a picture of yours is being used commercially, it will probably find it.

-- Kay - Just a girl who loves wood.

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Blackbear

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#8 posted 08-27-2014 04:31 PM

What hotncold said, you are seeing results from a google image search which present many different web page sources at once. Click on the link that you think is yours and see if it is the LJ’s page.

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Greg..the Cajun Wood Artist

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#9 posted 08-27-2014 07:19 PM

If someone is using your photos it is because they are either too lazy or not talented enough to produce the work on their own.

-- Each step of every Wood Art project I design and build is considered my masterpieceā€¦ because I want the finished product to reflect the quality and creativeness of my work

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degoose

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#10 posted 08-27-2014 09:09 PM

That;s despicable….

-- Drink twice... and don't bother to cut... @ lazylarrywoodworks.com.au For lovers of all things timber...

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robscastle

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#11 posted 08-28-2014 07:06 AM

I did a recheck as hotncold suggested this is what I found as the source website

Any way enough said and as stefang replied I am also not too worried either.

-- Regards Robert

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