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Blog entry by richgreer posted 1666 days ago 846 reads 0 times favorited 16 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Whenever you buy a router, table saw, lathe and some other tools, it is common to get one or more wrenches for changing bits, blades, chucks, ... These tend to be some of the cheapest most poorly made wrenches I have ever seen. The wrenches that came with my lathe literally spread further open when I applied moderate pressure, making them completely worthless. I had to spend over an hour with a Dremel grinder to correct problems with the wrench that removes my arbor nut on my table saw.

When you spend hundreds of dollars on a nice tool you should get a decent set of wrenches to change what ever needs changing.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.



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Jeff in Huntersville

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#1 posted 1666 days ago

Couldn’t agree more. Makes you wonder what other cheap parts are inside the tool. And why can’t they at least stamp their name on the tool so you know what it’s for?

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patron

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#2 posted 1666 days ago

ditto to that .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Tim Dahn

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#3 posted 1666 days ago

Yep, table saws seem to be the worst. I don’t even know where the wrench for my table saw is, I just grab an adjustable.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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dennis mitchell

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#4 posted 1666 days ago

... next some idiot will decide to make them out of plastic. They would work just as well. I have a large expensive shaper where the shaper is metric and the cheap wrenches are standard. Another example of free trade. We trade our idiots for theirs….

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JJohnston

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#5 posted 1666 days ago

Really? I hadn’t noticed. The collet wrenches that came with the DeWalt 621 and the big 3HP Milwaukee (model no.??) have been fine. They seem to have been forged rather than stamped. The arbor wrenches for the SawStop are stamped, but they’re seriously thick and heavy.

-- "Sorry I'm late. Somebody tampered with my brakes." "You should have been early, then."

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Dennisgrosen

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#6 posted 1666 days ago

Too late Dennis I alredy got one it came with my daugtherĀ“s new bycicle I will not name the brand becourse the byciclebrand is normaly a well nown as one of the realy good brand where there is nothing wrong and have an exellent service

but I gess that even the best companiĀ“s can have a brain damage from time to time

Dennis

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lumberdog

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#7 posted 1666 days ago

It’s almost like they have some clown at the end of the line slipping these tools into the boxes and giggling all the time he is doing it. I won’t name the brand ,but i received a wrench with a table saw one time and it didn’t fit anything on the saw and it didn’t look any thing like the one pictured in the manual, i called the company and after complaining enough they sent me a new one six weeks later, and it was the same thing as what i had.

-- Lumberdog.. Michigan

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Scott Bryan

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#8 posted 1666 days ago

I agree with you about this. With my old table saw the wrench that was supplied with it would flex too much to be of any use at all. I never used it. I am just glad that over the years my father made a point of giving hand tools at Christmas. When I was on my own I had a complete set of tools and often would rather use one of my tools the ones supplied by the manufacturer. Of course there are always exceptions, like JJohnson said, the wrenches supplied with the Sawstop saw are quality tools.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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dlmckirdy

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#9 posted 1666 days ago

The blade wrench that came with my 10” table saw is 6” long. Just enough to align my knuckles with the business end of the blade and slice them whenever I change blades. I promptly lost that stamped wrench and bought a combination (open/box end) wrench that is about 10” long and keep it with the saw. Now if I can just keep my thumb out of the spinning blade!

-- Doug, Bakersfield, CA - I measured twice, cut it twice, and it is still too short!

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Dan Lyke

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#10 posted 1666 days ago

Ya know, everyone rags on the price I pay for Festool, but the crescent wrench that came with my hand-held router is a nice drop-forged beastie, and the hex keys with the other tools (including the ball end one with a handle that came with the MFS) all seem to be as good as anything I’ve bought individually.

The wrenches that came with my Porter-Cable router for the table are just stamped flat stock, but so far they’ve been beefy enough that I haven’t had any issues.

Just like cases, the auxiliary tools that come with the tools are part of the whole package, and if a company hasn’t paid attention to those details, or has skimped there, then where else have they cut corners? The simple answer is: find a company that doesn’t skimp on those things.

-- Dan Lyke, Petaluma California, http://www.flutterby.net/User:DanLyke

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coloradoclimber

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#11 posted 1666 days ago

Here’s the wrench that came factory supplied with my PM2000. Drop forged, over a foot long, 3/8 thick at the wrench end. Like the rest of the saw it’s pretty solid.

Of course instead of spending hundreds a PM2000 costs thousands. Kind of pricey, but you do get a nice wrench :).

PM2000 arbor wrench, drop forged

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a1Jim

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#12 posted 1666 days ago

Yes and Yes

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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miles125

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#13 posted 1666 days ago

Somebody come up with a really thin yet high quality adjustable wench and i’ll buy two and throw about 20 misc wrenches that came with my equipment away.

-- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one"

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coloradoclimber

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#14 posted 1666 days ago

Here are the wrenches that came with my Bosch 1617 router. Not particularly special but they are pretty solid, 1/4 inch and 3/16 inch thick at the wrench end. Not stamped steel like many others. The router is pretty nice too.



Bosch 1617 router wrenches

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richgreer

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#15 posted 1666 days ago

Miles hit the nail on the head. Most applications require a thin wrench and most adjustable wrenches are not thin. I guess we could all just buy Powermatic tools – but that is not in my budget.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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