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I bought a pair of these a few months ago after checking with my supervisor for approval. They work great, especially the Mp3 feature. With an el-cheapo generic Mp3 they will play for about 10 hours until the Mp3 battery needs a recharge. The sound is excellent and blocks out most of the surrounding noise. Herein lies the “but”.

Unfortunately my employer has reversed on approval after several other people started using the same unit. Their reasoning (and I guess I agree reluctantly) is the unit blocks too much noise and as such is a safety hazard! They are worried about people needing to hear moving equipment and not hearing out of the ordinary loud warning sounds or shouted warnings of impending trouble. Their insurance companies and UC comp. people adamantly agree with the position. I would definitely think this one over carefully before buying. Adding sound to a sound cancellation device does bring in a whole new factor in an industrial work setting.




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#1 posted 1740 days ago

I had a guy wear his iPod ear buds under a pair of regular ear muffs. He was in the shop by himself so it wasn’t a real problem, but I’ll think about this if he wears them again if there’s a larger group in the shop.

Thanks for the review.

-- "At its best, life is completely unpredictable." - Christopher Walken

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#2 posted 1740 days ago

Um. Excuse me, but … what’d you say??

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#3 posted 1739 days ago

I tend to agree with his position.

I wear ear plugs and have the shop stereo on. Working this way, I notice that I can still hear the equipment enough to tell if something is going wrong.

I wore my brother’s WorkTunes to try them out. I felt totally blocked out from the shop equipment. I rely on the sound of the equipment to tell me what’s going on.

You may think that my earplugs may not be working if I can hear so much but this is not true. They work quite sufficiently but I get enough of certain sounds that allows me to sense my work.

For instance, I can hear just enough of the wood going over the jointer to know if it is tearing out and I need to switch feed direction.

I thought that they would be a pretty good idea, but after wearing them for about 30 minutes I did not feel that they were for me.

I will admit that they work really good.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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#4 posted 1738 days ago

Interesting. I was going to put them (or another brand) on my Xmas list. It sounds (no pun intended) like I should get the “plain” muffs instead.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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#5 posted 1738 days ago

Thanks for the info

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#6 posted 1738 days ago

Standard earplugs will reduce the sound level 20 to 25 dB depending on the type and how well you put them in your ears. They still allow the same spectrum of frequency’s to reach your eardrums just at a more acceptable sound level. The earmuffs are usually rated higher at 30 to 35 and sometimes higher for specialty models like for shooting or in airplanes. They cover the entire ear and have less of a variable when applied. You combine that higher sound reduction with the music and you really are in an acoustic vacuum. I have a set of the Peltor work tunes and I only use them when I am cutting the lawn and my wife still complains that she cant get my attention when I am using them. I would never use them in the shop..I agree with Todd…I still need to hear what the machines are doing….I want to hear what kind of load I am putting on the motors or if it’s making a funny noise when I push that piece of wood through. I spent over 10 years of my life working for bands and doing live sound in very high decibel environments and I used to wear plugs whenever I could, and when I was mixing live sound I would alternate between wearing headphones and not. You have to protect your ears, but dont cut yourself off frome the world.

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#7 posted 1737 days ago

Have to agree with Todd and Brad, I have to hear those “sounds that allow me to sense my work” and those sounds that are the early warning signs of disaster. Personally I get lost in the work and the hum of the shop. I used to have tunes playing but I don’t even do that now. Not pushing that, just my preference. Ear plugs are often used. They work well enough for almost all my home shop noises (including most shouts from my wife). I use muffs for prolonged loud jobs like planing.

In an industrial (multi worker) environment they “sound” like a disaster waiting to happen.

On a high note, they are a great option for mowing and that 3 hour ride on Southwest.

-- Pete - "To every thing there is a season Turn! Turn! turn!" [Ecclesiastes and Pete Seeger]

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#8 posted 1737 days ago

Brad_Nailor – Thanks for the additional info. That is helpful in understanding why they work.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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#9 posted 1727 days ago

I have a different model that also lets through sound from the outside (but clips at 85 db and reduce repetitive sound). its probably the best thing that happened to me. i can still hear “problems” while listening to radio. can even hear conversations over shop noise.

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#10 posted 1591 days ago

moshel
what model is that

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#11 posted 1591 days ago

http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/335

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#12 posted 1585 days ago

I listen to my iPod with JVC “Marshmallow” earbuds. They are designed as earplugs, a soft cushion that you squezze between your fingers before putting them in your ears. They do a very good job of reducing shop noise, as good as the plain ear plugs a lot of people wear. In addition, I can hear my music at a much lower volume than with other earbuds I have tried. I still can hear enough of the machine noise to be aware of what’s going on around me without the headaches of constant loud noise levels. There’s the added benefit of the smaller earbuds being much more comfortable than over-the-ear protectors.

-- Robert - Haven Wood Crafts

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