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Review by firecaster posted 09-26-2009 01:46 AM 8788 views 0 times favorited 17 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Ok, I know this isn’t about a tool or gadget but most of us wear pants when we work in the shop. Although a couple of LJs I’m not sure of.

We hear a lot about the US manufacturing going over seas. These jeans are made in America, with American grown cotton. Actually close to where I like to trout fish in Blue Ridge Georgia. Besides that there are several other things I like about these jeans:
1. Comfort. They fit me well. There’s plenty of room in the legs and seat for the middle age spread.
2. The gusset. See the first picture. This goes along with comfort. No binding and a little extra room if you need it.
3. Well made. Or seem to be. I haven’t had them long enough to see how long they last.
4. Deep pockets. I think this is only on the carpenter jeans. The front pockets are the deepest I’ve ever seen. To get change from one my wrist goes in the pocket deep enough that my watch is inside. The watch pocket on the right side is almost too deep. My fingers can’t reach the bottom. I think a 12’ x 1/2” tape measure would fit easily in there. Not having a pocket watch I don’t really use this feature.
Down side is cost. You can buy cheaper jeans. These are $46. But, I just read a forum talking about cost of woodworking and how people can buy cheap imports over quality. Here’s the website.
http://www.gussetclothing.com/
The only tie I have to this company is I’ve bought two pairs of jeans from them and I live in Georgia.

-- Father of two sons. Both Eagle Scouts.




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#1 posted 09-26-2009 02:41 AM

Thanks for the info. I’m always looking to “buy local” like local tool store instead of mail order. In this case “local jeans” instead of China (or where ever). I see a new pair of jeans in my future.

[You with Cobb County Fire? Greetings from Bow (NH) Fire Rescue. Stay safe Bro]

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#2 posted 09-26-2009 05:35 AM

another US brand is

http://www.pointerbrand.com/

I’m looking for someone that can make me cargo pants and ponter offered to sew extra pockets on. I’m thinking I’ll take them up on it.

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#3 posted 09-26-2009 11:50 AM

Alas, and I hate to say it. These pants are in the $40+ dollar range. I purchased my last pair of jeans at Walmart for $8.50 and this is their non-sale price. They’re good jeans. Don’t flame me for pointing this out. It’s a fact of life. I wish it weren’t so. That’s 5 pair for around $50.
sigh…...

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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#4 posted 09-26-2009 05:41 PM

Those cheap walmart jeans are just that. CHEAP! I bought a pair of their levis, and they sure aren’t the levis I grew up with. They are very thin denim and aren’t made to last, as mine tore after only a few weeks on wearing them on the job.

-- Julian, Park Forest, IL

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#5 posted 09-26-2009 05:48 PM

i hate to say it, but there is a HUGE difference in the standard of living for the people that makes these products. Many people here complains that they can’t make a good living because of imported furniture where people often work without safety equipment, in crowded poorly lit locations, with no dust collection or workers compensation when they are injured.

These American companies are not trying to rip anyone off. In fact, they almost always have efficient operations with small profit margins. The reason you are paying more is so that workers are not living in poverty and so that materials are handled safely with regard to the environment.

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#6 posted 09-26-2009 06:19 PM

AMEN! I’ve been to the far-east and you or anyone you know would not live like they have to, making their wages. We live in the greatest nation in the world and we shouldn’t feel guilty about that. We are the MOST generous peoples of the world too. We have rebuilt most of Europe, Japan and other countries and now are sending boat loads of our money to the middle east for oil. From countries usually run by dictators.

Some day we’ll get smart and drill here and drill now, buy here products made here and create/promote opportunities not entitlements. Until then if it wasn’t for God’s grace where would we be?.

-- Gio, Gifts4thee.com

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#7 posted 09-26-2009 08:53 PM

I don’t think I’m that hard on jeans Julian. I never looked but they must be made overseas. I’d like to buy the US made ones but can’t justify paying 6X more for them. I think we have to realize that Some jobs just aren’t going to be available in the US any longer, no matter how much we wish or hope. According to the NEA 7 out of 10 jobs of 12 years ago no longer exist in the United states. We need to upgrade or fall behind. No matter how much we want to we won’t be going back. Many people are hanging on to the older ways but those who do will be left behind. There is no argument regarding this. It’s a done deal. There has been a period, and still will be, of retooling and re-education. Unfortunately the overlap between then and now will cause some real hardships for some people caught in the middle.

Gio said that we rebuilt most of the world after the War. This is true. But the only reason we could do this was that 90% of the people had been moving off the farms for 30 years and moved into cities and towns for the industrial revolution. There were riots and actual sabotage of factory machines out of fear and the changeover. The Changeover was hard on many but it happened and there was no stopping it. The word ‘sabotage’ actually comes from the word Sabo, which are wooden shoes worn by some immigrants that they threw into the gears of industrial machinery. There was no stopping it and there will be no stopping this either. Remember the past but grasp the future.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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#8 posted 09-26-2009 08:55 PM

I can always use a little more room in the “gusset” LOL

-- San Diego, CA

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#9 posted 09-26-2009 11:57 PM

HokieMojo: very well said.

[Short rant ahead: may not be suitable for small children, the elderly, or those with known heart conditions]

We hear, all too often, that it’s the unions that make it too expensive to manufacture in America. What you DON’T hear about is that most of the nations that are taking all of the mfgr’ing away from the US have (virtually) no labor laws (children, long hours, no breaks, etc.), nothing akin to OSHA, pay a wage that hardly constitutes a “living wage,” even in countries with exceptionally low costs OF living, and aren’t troubled with nasty little stuff like the EPA. Chemicals loooong banned here are still in abundant use in “third-world” countries … having all the ill effects that we deem unsuitable for /our/ bodies.

They use what they want, dump where they want, hire who they want, fire who they want, treat people however they feel like it, and do whatever they can to maximize profits.

For those who are strong advocates of less regulation on business: watching manufacturing in these emerging nations IS your model of what DE-regulation can lead to :-)

And the real irony is: many who seek to fuel their addiction to consumption of material goods by shopping at stores /like/ Wal-Mart … are the ones whose jobs are GOING away in America. It’s rather weird….

[off my soapbox, now … which … incidentally … is T&G and made from a beautiful run of hickory ;-)]

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#10 posted 09-27-2009 02:57 AM

Hey NBeener, you got pictures of that soapbox? That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen today and I’m at a firestation.
Please don’t start argueing but I love to read these discussions. It’s a complicated issue and the world isn’t waiting for us to figure it out. And it is changing!!!

I am easy on jeans also. They last me for years. I actually bought these to replace some old ones my wife is threatening to throw out. These should last me ‘till I’m wearing polyester and drooling. Oh wait. I did that yesterday, I think.
I’m going to try the Pointer brand also. There will always be a small, and getting smaller, manufacturing base. That’s proven by the few folks on here that sell high end stuff. I choose to support it because I can afford to right now, in the $40 dollar range. Who knows what next year will bring. Of course, I like quality and deep pockets also.

Let’s have some more opinions.

-- Father of two sons. Both Eagle Scouts.

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#11 posted 09-27-2009 05:11 AM

I’m all for good deals. I think the US will have to realize that many people will not work for a wage that would keep our products competitive and adjust what we sell to keep up with market conditions.

I’m not saying that cheap foreign products are always bad. I’m just saying that most people looking at buying these jeans are not just looking at the product. They are voting with their dollars to support more than a company that makes jeans. They are voting to support their ideals.

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#12 posted 09-27-2009 05:14 AM

I’ve also heard Carhartt makes some of their products in the US (including jeans recently). If you wanted to be sure, you could call to check.

http://www.carhartt.com

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#13 posted 09-27-2009 02:34 PM

Carhartt makes good heavy duty stuff. I think they are moving all there stuff offshore but for heavy jeans you can’t beat them. They also make a shirt I like but haven’t bought because I can’t justify the price versus use. It’s a workshirt with more functional pockets and a pen/pencil angled slot. If I worked in a shop everyday I’d look at this shirt. It was made offshore.

I certainly can’t afford to buy everything I use American Made. I pick and choose based on function and cost/benefit. Well made jeans will pay me back over time. But Carhartts are well made also. Neither are they cheap.

The world is changing. We need more high end jobs. Manufacturing jobs are good for one level of society but they, or their children, need to move up and out to keep this country growing.

-- Father of two sons. Both Eagle Scouts.

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#14 posted 09-27-2009 06:15 PM

what does America export these days? (except manufacturing jobs)

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#15 posted 09-27-2009 07:25 PM

Exports $1.283 trillion f.o.b. (2008)

Export goods industrial supplies, 29.8%; production machinery, 29.5%; non-auto consumer goods, 12.4%; motor vehicles and parts, 9.3%; food, feed and beverages, 8.3%; aircraft and parts, 6.6%; other, 4.1%. (2008)

Main export partners Canada, 21.4%; Mexico, 11.7%; China, 5.6%; Japan, 5.4%; Germany, 4.3%; United Kingdom, 4.1%.[7]

Imports $2.115 trillion c.i.f. (2008)

Import goods non-auto consumer goods 23.0%; fuels, 22.1%; production machinery and equipment, 19.9%; non-fuel industrial supplies, 14.8%; motor vehicles and parts, 11.1%; food, feed and beverages, 4.2%; aircraft and parts, 1.7%; other 3.2%. (2008)

Main import partners China, 16.9%; Canada, 15.7%; Mexico, 10.6%; Japan, 7.4%; Germany, 7.4%.[7]

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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