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I needed a new one.

Review by Craftsman on the lake posted 96 days ago 1039 views 0 times favorited 28 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I rarely use a scroll saw. If I have to do some scroll work I either do it by hand or use a bandsaw for outside work. Recently I had to do lots of inside scrolling. I’ve got an old craftsman scroll saw that I less than affectionally call ‘Thumper’ for obvious reasons. But, it cut and was good for work that wasn’t too intricate.
I’m making a desk for my niece and the side panels between the styles are the medical symbol for an RN as she’s soon to be graduating from Nursing school. I’ll post this build after it’s finished. I started out with Thumper then I broke the blade alignment guide. It’s essential for this machine and is unavailable as it’s so old. I decided that it was time for a new scroll saw.

Here’s a picture of Thumper and the panel I was working on.

I researched scroll saws both here and elsewhere on the net. I was surprised to see the low number of choices. My scroll saw needs are few and probably will be for awhile. I know the Dewalt is king right now along with a few other higher priced ones but I didn’t see myself spending $500+ on this tool. Lots of the scroll saws get marginal reviews. Many are in the $99-$150 category. I took a look around and ended up at Lowes. Of all the saws I looked at in the lower/mid price range the Hitachi seemed to look like it was constructed to last awhile. I won’t mention other brands I looked at, at the risk of offending anyone.

I’ll discuss these features pictured below

Upper blade vise, Table tilt knobs, Lower blade vise, On off and speed control.

The saw comes with a stand, but I had a 3/4” plywood cabinet stand for Thumper so I used that. As a result I think the vibration is at a minimum. Maybe that’s because I’m used to Thumper but the Hitachi seems to run pretty smoothly.
The blade insertion is two small vises on the upper and lower arms. They have thumbscrews but the top one also has an allen wrench insert. Some people indicate that the lower vise doesn’t hold pinless blades well. Mine does so I can say that this isn’t a problem. The lower one is a little tight for my large fingers but if I tilt the table to the right there is more room. I found it amusing though that the directions say that they recommend pinless blades if possible but the saw comes with two pin blades indicating that some people are having issues and to avoid calls they have switched the supplied blades from pinless to pin.
The saw has a servicable dust blower. The worklight has a separate switch. The saw has a large well placed on/off switch right over the upper arm and above that is the variable speed control. Both feel and look like they will last.
The front of the table has a knob within a knob. The outer one tilts the table (to either side) up to 45 degrees and the center knob locks it in that position. I am impressed with the way the mechanism snaps the table into position at various degrees and the gear that accomplishes this movement is a fairly large steel mechanism. Nothing flimsy about it.
The unit is mostly cast iron or steel with the exception of the green plastic cover on the side. It has two screws and I can see myself opening it up periodically to clean out the small scrolled chips that drop through and into the lower base area. the base also has a 1” dust port on the lower front right of the unit. There is a small blade compartment at the lower left, back of the saw.
When using the saw the first thing I noticed is that even though the blade was moving very fast at high speed, the rate of cutting was much slower than Thumper. Granted I was using two thicknesses of 1/2” oak screwed together thus 1” of oak in thickness which would be tough on any saw. Thumper used to cut as fast as a band saw. I think it was the long stroke it had. There was a little more wait time with the Hitachi but the cleaner more controlled cutting is worth the drop in speed. I broke one blade in the whole cutting of the panels that you can see below.
The saw was $179 at Lowes. It’s going to be just fine for my needs in the foreseeable future. In my mind I don’t mind buying something at a certain price point but I have to go at least to a level that makes it feel like I’m getting something equal to that dollar figure in product. The high caliber expensive machines were not practical for me right now and some of the lower priced machines didn’t fit that dollar/quality idea that well. The Hitachi CW40 seemed someplace in the middle and was the right buy for my needs. I gave it 5 stars for what it is at this dollar level.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful. http://web.me.com/deceiver6/Deceiver/Craftsman_on_the_lake/Craftsman_on_the_lake.html

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sIKE

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posted 96 days ago

Very nice review. I have a scroll saw for the same exact purposes. I got a Delta Shopmaster as a gift a couple of years ago and it suit my purpose also. If this guy were to die like Thumper, I would be glad to pick up this Hitachi….

-- //FC - Round Rock, TX - "Experience is what you get just after you need it"

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patron

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posted 96 days ago

i got a $100.00 ryobi , it work’s somewhat .
someday i’ll get an excalibur 30” , like i used to have .
but for now this one works .
thanks for the review , i’ll keep it in mind .

-- david ,new mexico ,allheart

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Trikzter

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posted 96 days ago

Thanks for the review. I am looking for a scroll saw and just can’t bring myself to be paying the high dollar on the more expensive ones (can’t afford it either).

-- Rick... A tree knows more about wood then I do.

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PurpLev

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posted 96 days ago

Thanks Daniel, good review.

like you, for any intricate work, I use the bandsaw with a 3/32” blade as I just can’t find the need to get ‘another’ machine since most my intricate work is on edge, and not yet inside work. but it’s good to know there are other option that don’t cost $500 when the time comes.

-- When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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posted 95 days ago

I got a task force 16in scroll saw and the blade holder on the bottom arm broke off and let me tell you something that was a pain in the ass to fix I spent over 4 hours straight trying to put a new pin in but I finally got it to work but having a foot pedal really makes a big difference

-- kosta brownsville brooklyn my home

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posted 95 days ago

I’ve got the dremel…it is nice for the price and works great – I got it when I had to make a bunch of small stuff for a friends kid’s model train layout…

Now, I just dont have much need for it…so it gathers alot of dust….I was thinking of selling/trading it so that I can get the bench space for something else. I was going to put it up on craigslist as soon as I get the rest of the junk that was in my old shop sorted out…

I never recommend to anyone to buy a jig saw unless you are making models or doing lots of intricate scroll work….even with that I will usually reach for my router and a pattern bit…...much more control and infinitely better work…without so much tear out and vibration..

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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a1Jim

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posted 95 days ago

great Review

-- Jim from Heirloom Woodshop Southern Oregon

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littlecope

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posted 95 days ago

Hey, I have one of those “Thumper” things too!!! What an apt description…LOL (I can’t believe my saw just got a nickname!!)
That Hitachi looks like a dandy! If I ever need one I’ll have to look into those…Thanks!

-- Mike in Manchester, NH---Unpleasant tasks are simply worthy challenges to improve skills.

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ericandcandi

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posted 95 days ago

Melted my thumper when it cracked…..Headed to lowes now. Thanks for the review

-- ericandcandi, Louisiana- Home of the "LSU Tigers"

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posted 95 days ago

Craftsman on the lake,
Very nice review. I looked at that same saw at Lowes sometime back, and I have to agree with you. I believe that scrollsaw offers the biggest bang for the buck out there right now. I use nothing but pin/less blades for my scroll work. I’m sure the new Hitachi you have will handle pin/less blades just as easily as pinned type blades. As far as the speed of cut goes in that very thick wood you were cutting, I’ve found that slowing the strokes per minute down and using blades with fewer teeth speeds the cutting on most thick woods. Good luck with your new saw and congratulations on an excellent choice.

Sincerely,
Ken McGinnis

-- woodbutcher north carolina

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3fingerpat

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posted 95 days ago

Good review.

I also have this scroll saw and am quite happy with it, very glad I bought it, had to replace an old ryobi which I enjoyed using for many a year. I also didn’t use the stand that came with it as mine is mounted to a rolling frame to be able to move it where I need to use it. My only complaint with the Hitachi, is with the hold down assy, otherwise I would definitely buy this unit again.

-- "You get what you inspect, not what you expect"

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posted 95 days ago

Yes 3fingerpat, In fact I removed the wire part of the hold down and just use the metal head that it screws into. The wire part was shaped and bent funny. I didn’t think it did the job right. Funny though, Thumper had a hold down much like the presser foot on a sewing machine, like a two tined fork. That was a pretty good design.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful. http://web.me.com/deceiver6/Deceiver/Craftsman_on_the_lake/Craftsman_on_the_lake.html

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bayouman

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posted 94 days ago

I have the same scroll saw and it does a great job for the price.

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Beginningwoodworker

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posted 94 days ago

Congrats on your ne scroll saw.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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3fingerpat

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posted 94 days ago

Yup, the hold down on my old Ryobi was like the presser foot design as well and worked like a champ. I was thinking of making my own and removing the factory supplied unit, but just haven’t had the time yet.

-- "You get what you inspect, not what you expect"

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posted 94 days ago

Other than the shape of the table top, this is the same saw Craftsman was selling a few years back. http://lumberjocks.com/projects/17537

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

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posted 94 days ago

Dalem, You’re right, besides a few little changes it looks like the same saw. Funny how things happen like that.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful. http://web.me.com/deceiver6/Deceiver/Craftsman_on_the_lake/Craftsman_on_the_lake.html

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posted 94 days ago

Daniel, mine has held up for years so you bought a thoroughly tested product that works fine for the price. I don’t use mine much, but my kids have been giving it a workout lately and it has held up well. I have no complaints.

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

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posted 94 days ago

I also have the piece of Craftsman unit…..At one time I had a use for it but I don’t think I’ve turned it on for at least 4 years now . : ( Not the smoothest unit , but it was actually better than my friends’ Delta was : )
Very good review on this one : )

-- You know you're getting old when you know the difference between you're (you are) and your (belonging to you) AND how to use them in a sentence .

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upperwoodsman

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posted 94 days ago

Craftsman of the lake.
I got one just like yours at lowes also about a year ago.
And was to do a review on it. Then yours showed up. And I have to say your write-up is so good
I dont think I could add Or take away from it..

Very Very Good, Keep them coming.

Scott From Joburg MI

-- Scott JoBurg MI

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posted 93 days ago

Yeah, I have been looking around for a replacement saw. The Hitachi from Lowe’s or the $80.00 one from Harbor Freight are the two I have settled upon. I plan to look at the saw from HF over the Labor Day weekend while we are in Reno. There is a good sized HF store there and I’m sure the wife will understand ;) If I see something I don’t like about the HF model then I will pick up the Hitachi model from Lowe’s when we return from the long weekend.

I agree with your review that the Hitachi looks like the best scroll saw around in the lower end price range. The next step up seems to be the Dewalt model which is a bit pricey for a tool that I don’t use all that often. Thanks for the review.

-- Still clinging to my guns and religion.

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posted 81 days ago

Excellent review. Thank you and the others as well. I’ll be posting a new inquiry on two other scroll saws here in a few minutes so look for it. I am waiting to hear from Abbott on what he purchased the Hitachi or the Harbour Freight. The Hitachi I just saw at Lowe’s yesterday and it looks real nice then, like Abbott I saw the Harbour Freight one that looks like a possibility.

-- Dan Benson---Hitchcock, Texas......Got wood?

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posted 65 days ago

Hi all,
I have the Harbor Freight scroll saw. I got one for my birthday 3 years ago and it broke after a year. The tension knob, the entire assembly, broke. It sits in the barn in a box right now. I bought a new one, same thing, on sale again for $59, October 1, 2007, It is on sale now for $69. I bought the replacement 2 year warranty on it this time for $10. Well this one is not working right either. It will be fine and all of a sudden, I hear like metal on metal and the blade starts to cut sideways or way off my line. I do intarsia and segmentation. I have been looking for a new saw and will exchange this one and keep it as a back up, we will see how this warranty actually works. Everytime I find one that sounds like what I want, I find they don’t make it anymore. This Hitachi sounds like exactly what I want. In order to get the blade on the harbor freight one tensioned right, I have to turn that knob over 20 times, not all the way around. I avoid changing the blade because it is so much trouble. THe Hitachi looks like, you can let the tension off with the flip up of the tension knob, change the blade, and flip it back down and your tension will be like it was before. I hope I am right. Also the easy blade change in this one and variable speed is needed. I also can NOT get the plain end blades to work in the harbor freight saw. They will not stay in and you have to use an allen wrench to clamp them in. I gave up on that. I would like to wait for spring to get a new saw because I live in Michigan and work in the barn, outside, and will have to close down shop for the winter soon. I hope it will still be available then. If Abbott gets the harbor freight one, I wish you good luck. I would not buy another one of theirs.

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posted 65 days ago

Jackie:
All of your concerns, the blade changing pressure lever and the blade holding clamps, etc. You’re right. This saw meets those specific needs. No, issues in those areas. The only thing I don’t like is the wire hold down (presserfoot?) i just don’t use it much. Not a big deal.

And I just release the upper part of the blade change to move it to another hole. No need to remove the entire blade. If the wood is thick and the hole is small you might have to bend it a little but just the top needs to be taken out.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful. http://web.me.com/deceiver6/Deceiver/Craftsman_on_the_lake/Craftsman_on_the_lake.html

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posted 64 days ago

Thank you so much Craftsman on the lake,
I have made up my mind of what saw I am going to buy. I just hope they still have it in the spring. The first thing I did was take off the hold down on both of my broken saws so that is not a big deal. Really thank you so much. I have been searching for a while as to what to buy and finally have made up my mind and it is all because of this forum and your help.
Jackie

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posted 64 days ago

Jackie Said: I have been searching for a while as to what to buy and finally have made up my mind and it is all because of this forum and your help.

Oh God, Just my luck that something like the knobs fall off now when you turn it on! I hope you’re as satisfied as I am.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful. http://web.me.com/deceiver6/Deceiver/Craftsman_on_the_lake/Craftsman_on_the_lake.html

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posted 63 days ago

Well I am glad I held out and have not made a purchase yet because I have got a lot of good comments here and seeing more within the last couple of days on different threads as well. This I have decided: I am definitely NOT buying the one from Harbor Freight. Just holding out for the best deal.

-- Dan Benson---Hitchcock, Texas......Got wood?

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Jackie

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posted 63 days ago

Craftsman on the lake,
I am sure I will be satisfied, but I am waiting til the spring. I have to admit, anything I get will be better than the harbor freight ones that I have had.
Just to let anyone interested know. I called Harbor Freight yesterday about the replacement warranty and they gave me a return authorization number and all I have to do is bring the broken one into the store and get a replacement. All they asked me was what I was doing when it broke and what I was making at the time. I have not gone to the store yet, but I will update when I do. It will be my back up saw.
Jackie

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