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Lee Valley Square Hole Punches

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Lee Valley - Square Hole Punches (Rating: 5)

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This is a review of the Veritas Square Hole Punch, available individually or as a set of six, ranging in size from 3/16" to 1/2" by sixteenths. These punches are most often used for period work such as Greene and Greene style pieces where a raised plug is inserted, or for decorative pierced work (like the ones in my pictures) or for small square mortices. You could also use them as the beginning of much deeper mortises, using the perfect opening created as your guide for further drill and chisel work.
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I recently used these in four sizes to cut over 100 holes for two upcoming projects and so offer my considered assessment. I learned a great deal about their use.

To begin with, the accuracy of these is beyond compare. For high quality production items you really can't beat Veritas's work. All the punches in my set were perfectly square and sized to within .002! 3/8" is exactly 3/8". The fit and finish of all parts of the tool were exemplary. The points were real pointy and the curved cutting surfaces were razor sharp. Diamond hones are available (cheap!) for sharpening (best done in a drill press with a perpendicular wood block holder).
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In use the routine is as follows. Drill a hole 3/64ths smaller than the given size, invert the drill in the hole (as the shank will give a more accurate registration than the flutes), position the cutter over the drill, square it up, press the points into the wood with your finger tips, remove the drill and hammer the punch down to a maximum of 3/8". Remove the punch and clean the hole with a chisel as there is quite a bit of muff left at the bottom.
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If you only have a few to do it's not hard, it's just careful work. If you have many to do, you will get into an easy rhythm. If the holes are anywhere near each other it is recommended that you clamp a straightedge to work to on the run of holes, as the slight tolerances that are always inherent, if run opposite each other, will yield visibly offset holes.
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Some caveats.

The punch will be very difficult to withdraw in most hard woods. A light touch with a paraffin stick on the sides of the punch will help a lot.

The smaller sizes go in easily but the larger sizes will require quite a bit of force. Remember, you are chopping four sides of a mortice at once.

The real drawback to using the larger sizes is that you are trying to hammer a cylinder straight down with a bell faced tool. I don't care how many years you've been swinging a hammer on light or heavy work, it can't be done. Every blow lands slightly to one side or other of the cylinder and knocks it off square to the work. And when the punch enters other than dead square your sides will be curved.
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Having said that, a choked up hold with real concentration and firm blows works best.

Here are three possible solutions to the problem.

Cut a rebated block to hold the punch upright. This works best with the smaller sizes.
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Drill a slip fit hole in a block to contain the punch. This works ok but you cannot check your depth and things bounce around a bit as you cannot steady the tool with your hand.
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Insert a carriage or stove bolt with filed off corners into the punch top. Now you have convex meeting the convex of your hammer and all is well. Combined with a rebated block, it will yield the most satisfying results.
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These are beautiful tools, pricey but well worth the money if you have the application and want perfection. My only complaint is that for the set at $129, cheapskate Lee Valley doesn't even provide a pouch, much less a fitted plastic box. But we're woodworkers no? Boxes are what we do for fun.
 

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#13 · (Edited by Moderator)
Nice review..

I have a set and use them for Greene and Greene style work. They are amazing tools.. I wish they where a bit easier to keep square, but its just a patience problem I have.

The great part of them is they can be used after the project is assembled.. A mortiser would do the same thing, but after changing the bit and setting it up .. the punches are 10x faster.. And you can add ebony plugs after the item has been assembled.

I am just finally finishing a fir staircase with black Wenge plugs for decoration.. the homeowner is marking all the spots he wants 1/2 " x 1/2" square plugs on an assembled staircase.. Its no big deal with these punches.
 
#17 · (Edited by Moderator)
I believe these punches were designed with input from one of our very own LumberJock's - Darrell Peart. Darrell shared the prototypes during a class I took from him down at William Ng's School of Woodworking. We were building the G&G style blanket chest. The chest required about 70 ebony plugs and his prototype punches worked pretty well. I bought a set as soon as they came out. Kudo's to Darrell and I'm hoping he still gets a cut of the proceeds.

Jim K
 
#18 · (Edited by Moderator)
Good job on the review. I have a set of these punches which I use for my Green and Green pieces and really like them. I agree with the issue of the square holes getting a bit bigger on the corners. In the beginning, I made the pegs exactly to size which left slight gaps in the corners. My fix for it is to make the pegs slightly larger and then use a chisel to back bevel them. When pounded into the hole, they fit without a gap. Since I usually work with very hard woods for the plugs (ebony, macaranduba, oak) and have made a concave setting tool for the pegs, they never get damaged by being pounded in. Besides, the are not that much bigger (maybe .008 - .010"), so the pounding force is not great. I generally round the top of my pegs, but occasionally make pyramidal pegs. For these pegs, I use a thick felt pad (1/4") on top of the peg to pound.

Bill G
West Springfield, MA
 
#19 · (Edited by Moderator)
Great review! Very well thought out!
I have a different method of using the punches than the Lee Valley instructions.

Before I drill the hole, I line the punch up with a square and just tap it in so it registers and stays in place.
Next, with the punch in place I drill the hole

I now tap the punch down to about a depth of 3/8" - after each tap I slightly wiggle the punch ( makes it easier to withdraw)

Next, I run the drill in one more time - this clears out all the crud that was produced from the initial cutting action of the punch.

Now I remove the punch. It should be completely finished at this point - no chisel work to do -a clean hole.

I use a steel hammer on my punches the "mushrooming" does not interfere with the function of the tool.
Lately I have been using one of Lee Valley's square saddles to square the punch up - it has more of an edge to make registration easier.

The advantage of the punches over a hollow chisel mortiser is that it gives a more consistent clean cut and is much faster when you need to change sizes. The HC mortiser is not made to produce visible holes - the bit will often swing slightly wide of the chisel and produce a crescent shape outside the square. It also does not give consistently crisp solid edges - sometimes the edges are mashed or crumbly.

With practice, you should be able to drive the punches into the stock without going at an angle - even the larger sizes. In addition to wiggling the punch as I drive them, I also sometimes spay it with a little Dycote - this aides greatly in easy removal of the tool from the hole.

I did a video on the use of my punches - can be seen at ;
http://furnituremaker.com/Squarepunches.htm

Marlen Kemmet at Wood Magazine also did a very informative online reveiw of the punches:
http://community.woodmagazine.com/t5/Info-Sharing/Square-Punches-for-G-amp-G-Furniture/td-p/55907
 
#20 · (Edited by Moderator)
I was given a cheaper set of these for Christmas about 8 years ago. At first I was really excited and then I started to use them. I hated the results almost instantly, out it away and forgot about it. I am in a creative funk lately, so I weill play with them again and with your methods above. Thanks for the review and tips.
 
#21 · (Edited by Moderator)
I am remiss to replying to questions sometimes so I'll make late amends.

Dusty56 asked "Did you try a "dead-blow" hammer with them yet ?" Well after you asked, yes I did and found it much, much better to use. No bounce with more force and quieter to boot. I use this one,
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a mainstay in my daily tool kit. It has a nylon end for real heavy whacking and a rubber end that can be used on high gloss black lacquer without leaving any marks. Seriously.
It deserves a review of its own but I think I just did it.

Beyond that I am also very embarrassed for not saying thank you for your compliments on the review. I enjoy putting them together and am glad you enjoy viewing. Thanks to all who added their own tips on usage.
gene
 

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#25 · (Edited by Moderator)
Well I've been struggling to figure out how to make some 1/2" square holes in a project for several days without any luck. Then I decided to check here, should have checked here first. This is a very good review and instruction on how you used them, IE drill hole slightly smaller first, invert the bit, slide the hole punch down over it with a square to position it…..

It's a 9 year old post but still very useful today and i imagine for years to come. Thanks for posting