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Mark

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#1 posted 06-20-2010 04:39 AM

well papadan left over a stupid arguement when that youngster joined a while back and he was basicly telling him theres no hope while everyone else was trying to help the kid out

-- My purpose in life: Making sawdust

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Mark

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#2 posted 06-20-2010 04:40 AM

and don’t worry al, im goin nowhere! this site has it made :)

-- My purpose in life: Making sawdust

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wseand

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#3 posted 06-20-2010 04:50 AM

If I could only get the wife and kid to do that. ;~).. Well maybe just for a few days.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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#4 posted 06-20-2010 05:35 AM

People leave forums all the time… it happens… (shrug)

I have been a member of communities before where I just loose interest… even if I was super active for a while. And not necessarily loosing interest in the subject, sometimes just discussing it with other people.

I don’t think it’s a big deal.

-- Lis - Michigan - http://www.missmooseart.com - https://www.etsy.com/people/lisbokt

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#5 posted 06-20-2010 05:48 AM

I was #489 when I joined. It’s now over 19000 members.
Too much to keep track of.
There are a number of us oldies but I so seldom see or hear them.
Lost in the crowd.

Lee

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.

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janice

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#6 posted 06-20-2010 09:03 AM

Too much to keep track of is right! Some people dissappear for awhile because of health or famiily. Life. It happens. I’m courios, is that younster still on here? I liked him and havent seen anything since.

-- Janice

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Zuki

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#7 posted 06-20-2010 11:37 AM

I started around the same time as Sawdust2. Lately I have not been as active as I was in the past. I still do drop in and read the postings of my buddies.

-- BLOG - http://www.colorfulcanary.com/search/label/Zuki

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GMman

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#8 posted 06-20-2010 01:38 PM

Well with that many members some will idle for a while and come back, like someone said it’s not a big deal.
After a certain age you slow down some then come back with small projects, like I do.

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ajosephg

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#9 posted 06-20-2010 02:02 PM

After a year or so many of the posts are “de ja vu all over again” – I’m just saying

-- Joe

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SteveMcc

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#10 posted 06-20-2010 03:08 PM

You know, I haven’t been a member here for all that long, but I still love to sign in and check out what’s going on. I still marvel at some of the projects, craftmanship, and pure artistry that members display.
There is a wealth of information available here for the taking. I’ve found it to be seriously “user friendly”, and and so very informative. Thanks to all who post and coantribute. I like L J.

-- Steve, Fayetteville, Ga.

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Bobby

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#11 posted 06-20-2010 03:39 PM

I really don’t post often. However, I do drop by just about every day. I’m into a big project – for me anyway – and am not spending very much time on the computer. But every so often I see a post that’s kind of like a survey and will put in a quick answer. I LOVE this site!!!

—Bobby

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rtb

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#12 posted 06-20-2010 06:31 PM

Just because someone dosen’t post or comment dosen’t mean that tharen’t still here.

-- RTB. stray animals are just looking for love

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#13 posted 06-20-2010 07:00 PM

I doesn’t mater what you are doing, the same thing happens. People come and go, move on to more interesting things as they lose interest. I spend too much time on here and the computer in general. But that is because of migraine control more than anything else. Too much activity and bright light sucks ;-))

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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patron

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#14 posted 06-20-2010 07:16 PM

janice ,
i PM’ed jacob recently ,
he is making a project for is finals ,
coming around November .
thinking the things we all commented on ,
about his future .

i was glad to hear from him ,
you know how young men can be ,

lot’s to see and do !
i asked him to post his project ,
when he finished and got his grade ,
he said he would .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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GMman

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#15 posted 06-21-2010 12:24 AM

Thanks all of you, you gave reasons for my question, this is what I guess this site is all about ask and you will receive… again thanks all.

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Milo

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#16 posted 06-21-2010 12:38 AM

If Jim, Topa, or any of those guys ever leave, then I’ll worry…

Hey, were IS Jim’s comment on this…..? ;-)

-- Beer, Beer, Thank God for Beer. It's my way of keeping my mind fresh and clear...

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#17 posted 06-21-2010 01:33 AM

Rob…..........duh

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#18 posted 06-21-2010 01:41 AM

I’m staying.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#19 posted 06-21-2010 01:43 AM

Me too, everytime I think I know all about wood working, some one mentions something else I never even thought about :-))

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Jim Reeves

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#20 posted 06-21-2010 02:03 AM

Well hard to say why people leave, maybe he got bored, maybe he is out chasing girls, but must have his own reasons, have to respect them what ever they are l think, only my opinion of course.

-- jim

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dan abalos

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#21 posted 06-21-2010 05:25 AM

Hey Milo
Spot on dude, where is J A1Jims comment?
I really, really love the comments on projects but I still believe that a comment should be more than “nice work” as what else are you gonna say, “crappy work”? If you’re going to take the time to view a project you should at least say something about it, not just “nice work”, just my humble opinion, otherwise just view it and don’t leave a comment. I believe we all do the best work we are capable of and some are true artists and some are just plain old woodworkers who need a shelf or something else that isn’t art but pure functional pieces. I love to peruse the projects and see what’s going on with everyone if for nothing else than just to see the great projects people think of. I build functional stuff and mostly check in when the kids are in bed and the Mrs. is watching tv or sleeping. I view the projects that interest me and I comment on them, really comment as much as I can. Sometimes I am amazed at the skill or ingenuity or creativity or the sheer genius of it or just how damn cool a project is.
Just my 2 cents, I’m done.
~Dan

-- Beer is the reason I exist on this earth, that and my family! (Aurora, IL) my blog: http://justanaveragedad.wordpress.com/

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GMman

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#22 posted 06-21-2010 02:04 PM

I agree with you Dan “nice work” says to me you did not look at the project you just wrote a comment. “crappy work” well is bad better not to comment at all.
I saw on the other day that was crappy so I did not comment, if someone wants to say nice work that is his own choice.
I wish Martin could explain to those comments “nice work” what is the meaning of a comment on a project.
It maybe posted somewhere on here?

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Martin Sojka

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#23 posted 06-21-2010 03:35 PM

GMman: ”I wish Martin could explain to those comments “nice work” what is the meaning of a comment on a project. It maybe posted somewhere on here?”

Do you really mean this? What do you want me to explain? It’s Jim’s choice to post at least those few nice words to other members who took time to share their work or tips here. I really don’t understand what’s your problem with that and why you feel the need to argue about this over and over…

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#24 posted 06-21-2010 03:44 PM

Nice job Martin :)

-- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one"

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patron

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#25 posted 06-21-2010 03:57 PM

hear !
hear !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Dennis Fletcher

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#26 posted 06-21-2010 04:06 PM

Nice work

-- http://www.ahomespecialist.net, Making design and application one. †

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CharlieM1958

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#27 posted 06-21-2010 04:07 PM

I just don’t understand people who want to dictate the depth of someone else’s comment. The way I see it there are three basic options:

1. Leave a short comment
2. Leave an in-depth comment
3. Leave no comment at all.

Whichever of these options someone chooses is fine by me. I don’t see why anyone should be concerned about anyone’s choice but their own.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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dbhost

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#28 posted 06-21-2010 04:19 PM

I think Martin nailed it… A brief positive comment is always good to hear…

On the subject from the OP… People come and go to and from forums. In all forums you get some real gems, and some real jerks. If the jerks leave, let ‘em. Makes the forum a better place to be.

Also depends on what is going on in a persons life at the time. I have other interests where I participate in forums, that I am far less active in because my interest at this time has shifted toward really honing my woodworking skills…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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Gene Howe

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#29 posted 06-21-2010 04:26 PM

Well, this will probably make my future comments even less relevant but, I’ve not seen any really crappy work from members. Does that mean I’m undiscerning and my comments aren’t meaningful to the craftsman on whose work I offer a “Nice work” type comment? Maybe…I dunno.
IMO, it’s all good, just some better than others.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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ShawnH

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#30 posted 06-21-2010 04:40 PM

I think this topics has been derailed, and is probably why some people leave. I think, like already stated, people come and go for various reasons. I think the policing of others comments is one reason someone would see that kind of thing and decide not to be a part of it anymore. Unless someone is truly out of line, read it and move on. Post what you have to say and leave it. How can you see to take the speck out of your brothers eye, with the log that is in your own?

-- ShawnH "In matters of style, swim with the current. In matters of principle, stand like a rock." Thomas Jefferson

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GMman

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#31 posted 06-21-2010 04:42 PM

Martin I did that because of what “da abalos” posted.
I might as well not post any more that may please you and a few more.
That was not the way I started that post and my comment was for dan’s comment he mention short comments.

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Jim Bertelson

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#32 posted 06-21-2010 05:02 PM

Think I have come down on the side of those who leave even brief comments before. I appreciate knowing that a1Jim has stopped by, because if you have a question, he will give you an answer backed by a lot of experience.

I tend to be a little verbose, partly because I am a fast typist, and being fast does make a difference.

So I am with Charlie, besides, I like the variety.

Alaska Jim

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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GMman

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#33 posted 06-21-2010 05:09 PM

Alaska Jim I don’t even now why A1Jim is mention by you and Martin because he was not mentioned before in this post, Jim can post anything he wants.

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Jim Bertelson

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#34 posted 06-21-2010 05:12 PM

.......and I think these comments are pertinent to the original question. It demonstrates that each person probably takes away something different from the site, their comments reflect that, ......and that may change over time.

Right now this site is helping me with becoming a woodworking hobbyist, entertains me, allows me to socialize in a non-realtime fashion (making it more relaxing for someone who talks all day long in his job), and gives me a creative outlet for my own brand of commentary and humor revolving around my primitive woodworking skills. I am sure this site means something different to each member.

Alaska Jim

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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Rick Dennington

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#35 posted 06-21-2010 05:14 PM

When I was a “boot” in the Army, I had a drill sargent tell me: “Solider, you ain’t got nothing between your ears but a bloodclot”. And as I have found over the years, that statement holds true for some people…..

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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Mary Anne

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#36 posted 06-21-2010 05:15 PM

If you don’t appreciate a “Nice work.” comment, you could say so in your project description. Let people know that only certain standard of quality comments are acceptable to you.

To the OP: I agree it is disconcerting when a long time presence on a site, or even a “friend” just disappears, but it does happen all the time. It is one of the stranger things about the online reality.

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Cozmo35

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#37 posted 06-21-2010 05:17 PM

Sometimes I’ll post a project and see that I get hundreds of views, but I only get a few comments. I for one thrive on comments (good or bad). I would like to see more! If I look at a project, 9 times out of 10 I’ll make a comment. Even if it is “Nice work”, or “That SUCKS!” make a comment. I know I am not the only one that has this opinion.

PS. Jim is THE MAN!

-- If you don't work, you don't eat!.....Garland, TX

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Jim Bertelson

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#38 posted 06-21-2010 05:17 PM

GMman
Think he is illustrative of the issue, I guess. I am not judging here, by the way, just expressing how I feel about things. You and everybody else is going to have a different reaction to any given comment. I get involved with some pretty intense communication in my job. No matter how hard I try, and no matter how much time I spend, someone sooner or later gets the wrong message.

OK, out of here, getting political….........

Alaska Jim

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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patron

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#39 posted 06-21-2010 05:23 PM

wow , jim ,
if you talk allday at work ,
the way you ‘relax’ here with us ,

are you an auctioneer too (LOL) ?

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Ken90712

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#40 posted 06-21-2010 05:27 PM

I could not see me ever leaving here. I have made some great friends here that I would have NEVER MET ! Thx Martin Sojka & who ever else is involved in the great Web Page!

Short comments and feedback are fine, freedom of choice & expression is what is so great. If every feedback comment was 30-50 words or how every long how would we have any time for woodworking?

So NICE WORK !!!! Time to get out in the shop 830 am time to run the planner!

-- Ken, "Everyday above ground is a good day!"

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GMman

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#41 posted 06-21-2010 05:32 PM

Thanks Jim this is what happened here some got the wrong message a thread or a post lots of time gets out the wrong way.
That is life you have to live with it.
By the way A1Jim and I had good PMs in the pass and then some arguments but I have nothing against A1Jim or anyone eles here, if I could I would shake his hand anytime and all LJ members.

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hairy

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#42 posted 06-21-2010 05:36 PM

I would prefer a “Nice work!” to a no comment.

I usually leave a short comment when I make one. I treat that person how I would like to be treated.

-- the last of Barret's Privateers...

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#43 posted 06-21-2010 07:43 PM

I’ve only been on Lumberjocks for 7 months. That makes me relatively new here and I am most definitely new to woodworking. A lot of my work is crap compared to the older and more experienced on here. But I for one appreciate the fact that someone looks at what I have done and says something nice. It may be just a “Nice work” or a 5 paragraph dissertation. But it encourages me to try harder. And when I see the absolutely beautiful creations made by the masters mentoring us newbies, I am amazed.

Back to the original thread….I miss papadan. He is still on my Buddy’s list. I disagreed with him on that one comment, but that is why I went to combat, to do my part to insure we have that right to say what ever we feel. Some members that are no longer here may have got their panties in a twist, or maybe their interests just changed, or like what happened to me last year, my wife got very sick and my computer caught a virus and I disappeared for over a month.
We have no control over this, so let’s just love each other and enjoy each others talent at what ever level. And, like our parents used to tell us, “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.”
The greatest woodworker of all time said, “You will know that they are my disciples if they have love among themselves.” Maybe if they miss the love they will come back.

Just my .02 worth. Rand

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Gary

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#44 posted 06-21-2010 08:19 PM

....step 5 is to put the rack of ribs on the top shelf of the smoker and…..oops, wrong forum…sorry

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#45 posted 06-21-2010 09:39 PM

Well, as to why people leave – I’m a member of some Real Life groups, and we have people come and go as well. As other folks here have pointed out, that’s just normal life.

As for “nice work” style comments, it’s still a form of human connection. I don’t leave negative comments unless someone has specifically asked for critiques, I just move on to the next project. Saying “nice work” is sort of a written way of giving someone a smile and a nod. Some projects do call out to you, and you want/feel that a more in-depth comment is warranted.

-- Bob www.singularengineering.com - A sideline, not how I earn a living

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#46 posted 06-22-2010 02:41 AM

I have been told by another LJ that he was sorry he piped up and tried to tell how to do something easier. A second LJ who doesn’t post much told him he was wrong and stupid for saying such a thing. It was the critic, the 2nd guy, who didn’t know his a$$ from a hole in the ground :-(( The first fellow said he’d probably just clam up because he didn’t like being called out like that in public, but he knew he was right. Having belligerent clowns popping in once in a while doesn’t do the site any good.

Lots of people feel like they don’t know enough to make a positive contribution. I have been told that by people and heard it on other forums too.

Some times I just say that is a nice job and something longer and/ or questions. A while back I noticed how many project posters had been on for 1000 days with 75 posts. Obviously, they are not bothering to post on others projects, so ???...............

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#47 posted 06-22-2010 03:00 AM

Mary Anne, I have seen that hapen in in person activities too. Really odd when a really active person just disappears.

An aquaintance of mine who has a rather odd personality at times, said he has always wanted to just disappear and have everyone wonder where he went. I ask him how he would know if they were wondering, if they even noticed or cared :-))

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#48 posted 06-22-2010 04:37 AM

i know if i show up in a red dress..lots of folks get interested…lol…thats why i stay…i love the mens attention…lol…....this is a great site with every single member bringing something good to the table…i dont care if you built the taj ma hall ..i don’t care if you can even spell…im glad that whoever is here is here…wood workers are the best folks there are…..happy wood workers day…....i just love that coon on mary anns head…where else do you find folks like that…..if i could i would walk down the street with my pet grizz…i have not shown him here. cus i dont want folks getting scared…im glad were all here…grizzman…oh and hey…where else would you see rand in his chartreuse underwear…lol

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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Mary Anne

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#49 posted 06-22-2010 05:43 AM

Actually, Bob, I did that in real life… and I’m still wondering if anyone is wondering. LOL

I’ve noticed quite a few people whose only posts here are projects and nothing else. They don’t even respond to comments on their projects. I confess it puts me off a bit, but they don’t have to worry about saying the wrong thing. LOL

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JAGWAH

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#50 posted 06-22-2010 05:45 AM

Hey I’d be around more but with this new job I’m lucky I have time to change my undies. And like Grizz sez, ditto!

Antway it’s lateand I’m just lucky I caught this post.

And as for others and Jim for their positive comments, showing somebody out there is paying attention to what’s happening and likes a persons work…Thank You. I need to do more of it myself.

See ya guys in a few days.

-- ~Just A Guy With A Hammer~

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