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Which is better, a larger shared space shop, or a smaller dedicated shop?

by dbhost
posted 06-18-2010 08:13 PM

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#1 posted 06-18-2010 08:19 PM

if you can get every non woodworking related item out, and you have the space to raise a shed for those. why wouldn’t you? I fail to see any drawback to it…

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#2 posted 06-18-2010 08:27 PM

What about dust / noise? I failed to mention. Attached garage workshop… My fault. I keep thinking that it would be nice to get the noise away from the house, but I have a hard time giving up the space. ESPECIALLY since I can move non shop stuff to a shed…

LOML would prefer I keep it in the garage… But when babies come, work will come to a standstill while baby sleeps… That could be a huge problem….

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#3 posted 06-18-2010 08:36 PM

If you built a shed for the woodworking, would it really be that much quieter? Would it be easier/cheaper to build a small storage shed (that has little requirements structurally) and then put some money into insulating the garage and soundproofing it more?

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#4 posted 06-18-2010 09:21 PM

My thoughts seem to be the same as those already expressed. I would think you could store a good deal of outdoor items in a smaller shed, freeing room in the garage. Storage space does not require as much room to be effective. Everything I had used to be stored in the basement. I built an 8×10 shed out in the backyard and was quite surprised how much I could put in there and still keep it organized. I think it would be more efficient to capitalize on the larger space of the garage then attempt to build another work environment.


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#5 posted 06-18-2010 09:23 PM

It matters not how much shed space you create, you will find a way to fill it beyond its capability. There will always be something that just has to go in there, lol. The bottom line is you will need to work with the room you have, and stick to it. Throw out the things you don’t need (using it within 6 months?) and put the ones you do in their places. Wall space can be well utilized, even hanging light things from the roof works; I have a few things hanging with a rope tied to them to let them down when needed. Organization really helps. I have a small workspace, about 14×14, and it’s always full. It’s a battle, but what the heck?

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#6 posted 06-18-2010 09:32 PM


outdoor ‘shed’ for woodworking will require you to consider and setup the following:

1. electric
2. insulation
3. heating/AC
4. moisture control
5. better flooring material than just for outdoor stuff storage.

esp. since you mentioned that you’re limited by outdoor space that you have – I would stay in the garage, than having to go through all the trouble and having to suffice for a smaller work space.

when babies come – priorities change. noise may not be your #1 reason not to be woodworking (or it may… lol)

good luck with both ventures :)

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#7 posted 06-18-2010 09:47 PM

Agree with the above. A separate small shop doesn’t sound cheap, and you have already put in the electric, AC, insulation, etc in the garage.

I had an extremely small shop at one point in my life, for just 18 months. An outdoor item with doors on each end
so I could put long stock in from either side to cut with my RAS. The walls were for hanging my meager number of tools. Had electricity, but not much, no AC, no heat etc.

Ain’t going back there again, especially in this climate. More sound proofing, and some more DC solutions would solve your issues, along with the shed.

Then you have to demarcate space, and keep everybody and everything out of it. I fight that one tooth and nail, and it works.


-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#8 posted 06-18-2010 10:00 PM


I have the A/C, some of the electric, and insulation in the attic and rollup doors.

I have yet to do the work that needs to be done on the walls. (Rip sheet rock out, insulate, run sub panel and branch circuits, put new rock up, paint…). BUT I am close enough I ought to soldier forward.

I think the biggest issue, and worry for me is, LOML just insists garden stuff goes here more or less.Even with the shed I am concerned she will continue this approach…

I have thought of the 8×12 shed out back as well. Not for a shop, but to store the not shop stuff. That would NOT offer any help in storing building materials, but it WOULD store all the BBQ, and lawn & garden stuff. And as I finish projects, the building materials stack gets smaller…

Did I mention there are 10 bags of quickcrete, about 16 PT 2×4x8s, 8 PT 4×4x8s, about 180 6’ x6” x5/8” dog eared PT fence pickets, and 10 1×6x8 PT in the shop along with a New Braunfels Bandera Smoker (6’ tall x 6’ wide by 2.5’ deep), a push mower, a wheel barrow, edger weed eater, fertilizer spreader, buckets of paint, gas cans…. It’s enough to drive you crazy!

And punching a hole in my foot last weekend didn’t help the progress either!

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#9 posted 06-18-2010 10:41 PM

Babies don’t stay babies very long, and in my experience they keep you busy enough that the time goes by pretty fast. If you are spending a lot of time with the baby when its awake – which I recommend – you may find yourself pretty busy – or sleeping yourself – when the baby is asleep. So I wouldn’t use that as a significant design consideration. But if the noise in the house is enough to aggravate the LOYL – even a little – I recommend you take that very seriously.

My shop shares the garage with the wife’s car as well as the yard stuff. I store the yard stuff near the big doors so its easy for my wife to find it and get it – and so she has no reason to wander into the space where my tools are. My garage is detached so all the doors are in one wall and my shop space is toward the opposite wall. That works very well. Your layout is likely different, but probably still has a corner away from all the doors. I also have the yard stuff storage well organized so the stuff is easy to find and get, and also so it doesn’t occupy any more space than necessary. ALSO, I never say anything if my wife doesn’t put stuff back in its place – I just put it back when I see it. The kids get different treatment, but then the last is out of the house by the end of the summer.

In the end the situation works pretty well for me. One advantage is that I can use the wife’s parking space when I need to. I just make sure that when I’m using her parking space I don’t let the project sit, and I get my crap out of her way promptly when I’m done. The arrangement works well (hello, my name is Greg and I’m a slobaholic. I’ve been neat for 18 months – if you know what I mean!).

What probably won’t work well is sharing space with kids. I have heard of kids that like to keep things neat – but I’ve never seen one. My experience is that they trash all the space they have access to. So I’d consider using a storage shed to isolate their stuff far away from everything that you care about.

-- Greg D.

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#10 posted 06-18-2010 10:52 PM

It’s obvious, that you just have to really be calculating in this part of the dance. Perhaps have a few things that would be easy to store on the wall of the garage with special hooks and all for her. But then make the storage shed kinda her project, maybe throw in a potting bench, or whatever might grab her. Gotta be creative…......(-:

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#11 posted 06-18-2010 11:44 PM

As someone who went from an attached garage to a separate building, I would do the separate building any day. Sure, there are extra costs involved, but the building is my space, not an addition to the house. My wife leaves me alone out there, where she always stuck her head in the garage and “bugged me” about something or another. Plus the noise level in the house is down, and I can run my saw while the drier is running… yeah, that sucks.

I ran a 100 amps out there with a 12 position panel, and overdid everything for a hobbyist. If you need info on stringing power and running wire from the panel in the house, to stringing the building, I can share a lot of info with you, and personal experiences.You have the light fixtures and AC already, so you save a pretty penny on them. Insulation isn’t terribly expensive, and a blue flame heater with a 30 pound propane tank is the deal. You can also build a little outhouse/lean-to and stick your compressor and dust collection system in it, so no more noise.

While my shop is smaller then my garage, it is my personal sanctuary… my escape place. I wouldn’t trade it for anything.

-- Got Wood? --- Somewhere along the way the people in Washington forgot that they are there to represent the people, not to rule them.

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#12 posted 06-18-2010 11:59 PM

I need my own space, and have it. I have invested a lot of time energy and cash in my hobby. I don’t like the idea of anyone sharing my shop or vice versa.I feel that some may take advantage and borrow my tools not put them back etc even take them .So a big no no. I prefer the security and peace of mind with my own door keys thanks.Alistair

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#13 posted 06-19-2010 12:10 AM

I’d go for building a separate storage shed.

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#14 posted 06-19-2010 01:06 AM

I vote for a storage shed for none woodworking items.

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#15 posted 06-19-2010 10:17 AM

I agree with Jim. I got a storage shed for all my other things. Mower, snowblower, weedeater.

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#16 posted 06-19-2010 02:02 PM

I would say shed for your hobby. I have my own I concider it small but its all mine nothing disapears eather as I have the only keys
I do have a lot of non shope stuff thoe

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#17 posted 06-19-2010 08:36 PM

One of the things that attracted me to join LJ’s was the pics of others small shops. You said that a 12×16 would be a bit big for your yard but not much more than the 10×12. There’s a lot to be said for your own space. Yes cost is a factor, but when you consider how much time you will save not moving things around it pays off.
I bought a 10×12 storage shed and just to get at the stuff I want in there is a pain, and so tools and what not get scattered everywhere. I was in the position of having lost my second shop and had to do some rethinking about my next shop. Not having a garage attached or unattached I had to decide if I wanted to find another building or get another shed. To say the least I opted for a shed and bought a 12×30 for a shop which was about half the size I was accostume to having. It may be small but at least I will have my own space. Being on a limited income it will take time to finish it out for a shop but it won’t be shared with anything. A 12×16 will be easy to heat and cool and the wife and non shop stuff won’t be in your way when your ready to play. Just think another benefit will be less to mow giving you more time to play. Also the baby thing won’t be an issue as well. I say go for the 12×16 you won’t regret it for a moment when your in YOUR shop.

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#18 posted 06-25-2010 05:04 AM

So DB, have you made any decisions? As a follower of your shop, and a taker of your advice, I am interested in knowing what you decide to do.

One other thing to keep in mind is, while the wife walks in the garage everyday, and it is easily accessible to her, it is more likely to become the catchall to her stuff. But having a separate building, well, that is several more steps, and more hassle then just opening the garage door and tossing the stuff in there.

I still say the dedicated space is the best thing. I love having MY shop… not OUR garage.

-- Got Wood? --- Somewhere along the way the people in Washington forgot that they are there to represent the people, not to rule them.

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#19 posted 06-25-2010 09:10 PM

What Nomad62 said… NEVER have enough room. We recently had a fire, and had two 30 foot dumpsters of our “stuff” hauled off…..........we STILL don’t have enough room….........really!

Since you ask, here is my outlook. If your city is like many in the USA, you probably have a certain element of low life criminals….......folks that choose not to work, but live by ripping off the stuff that working folks end up accumulating. Steal the stuff, pawn it or sell on Craigslist, then go buy their drugs.

I would opt for putting everything NOT related to woodworking out in a seperate shed….......keep the more valuable tools close (in your attached garage), so you can better prevent their theft. Engrave your last name, and last four digits of your SSAN on every tool or machine you have. The only thing worse than getting your stuff stolen, is to not be able to prove to the police what tools belong to you.

Maybe invest some time and money, and add sound proofing to your garage…......not just for your family, but to keep the neighbors happy, too.

-- Just easing along; life is good.

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