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Grizzly G0833P Tablesaw

by awilson
posted 08-16-2017 09:22 PM


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firefighterontheside

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#1 posted 08-16-2017 09:36 PM

That saw was not in there last week. It looks interesting. The fence appears to be somewhat a copy of the delta unifence. It might even accept the peach tree uni-t fence.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#2 posted 08-17-2017 01:34 PM

I just saw it it online yesterday, looks very promising and ideal for my situation. Now do you buy the early versions or wait for them to work out any kinks…

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photostu

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#3 posted 08-18-2017 01:29 AM

I bet no one has this saw yet.

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#4 posted 08-18-2017 04:53 PM

Looks like a nice saw. I wonder if it is G0771 internals with beefier attachments.

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#5 posted 08-25-2017 02:02 AM

Looks like it comes prewired for 220 and weighs about 40lb more. Also includes Poly-V serpentine belt drive.

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#6 posted 08-30-2017 02:14 AM

Hi all,

What is the tactical advantage to this saw’s style of fence, versus the G0715P’s?

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#7 posted 08-30-2017 02:25 AM

The fence on this saw seems to be copied from the old delta unifence. You can arrange it with the low side down which helps when ripping thin pieces. You can also slide the fence forward or back.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#8 posted 09-01-2017 06:49 PM

Looks like it has dust collection under the blade. Not sure if it’s the same trunnion…hopefully it’s improved.

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Carloz

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#9 posted 09-01-2017 07:24 PM

Improved or not they are different from 715. It says cabinet mounted .


Looks like it has dust collection under the blade. Not sure if it s the same trunnion…hopefully it s improved.

- ruel24


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homercal

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#10 posted 09-01-2017 07:43 PM

Grizzly’s customer service (“Ron”) told me the G0833P has a dust hood under the table. It also has a flex hose directly attached under the trunnion plugged directly into the port at the bottom of the saw.

Conceptually, similar to the SawStop of PM1000/2000 methinks.

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chimpwoodshop

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#11 posted 09-04-2017 01:47 AM

Hi All,

I’m new to the site (though I’ve lurked for a while) and recently moved to GA from Chicago. At the new house I’m setting up a new shop with some upgrades.

As part of the new shop, I took the gamble and bought the G0833P. For the price it looked pretty good. The improved dust collection was a big plus since I’ll be in a basement woodshop. Its a little scary having 0 reviews anywhere online, but we will see!. Hoping for the best.

I ordered last night so I’m not sure exactly when it will be delivered, but I’ll check back in and let you know how it goes.

-- Jeff - www.instagram.com/chimpwoodshop

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awilson

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#12 posted 09-04-2017 01:58 AM

Jeff,

Definitely let us know how it goes. I’m in the same situation as you setting up a basement shop. Just need to get my area framed in and wired and then will probably pull the trigger on this. Unfortunately not allowed to use the whole basement. Good luck, looks like a great saw!

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chimpwoodshop

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#13 posted 09-05-2017 12:35 AM

awilson,

I’m about the same, just finishing off 1/4 of the basement, so it will be a small shop but I have a lot of plans. Electricians are coming Wednesday to install a sub-panel but I’ll be doing the rest of the outlet wiring myself. Then drywalling, lighting, ect.

Anyway, I’ll update when I get it!

-- Jeff - www.instagram.com/chimpwoodshop

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jonah

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#14 posted 09-05-2017 02:35 AM

Looking at the pictures, the overarm dust collection attaches with an airflow killing tee junction. Why are most manufacturers such morons about dust collection?

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#15 posted 09-05-2017 08:50 PM



Looking at the pictures, the overarm dust collection attaches with an airflow killing tee junction. Why are most manufacturers such morons about dust collection?

- jonah

Im clueless what you mean. Can you explain because I am definitely interested! Thanks!

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jonah

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#16 posted 09-06-2017 12:27 AM

Look at this picture.

The overarm hose has a right angle junction there. A wye junction would preserve more airflow. As it is, you’ll get next to no effective airflow at the blade.

The saw looks interesting, but you’d want to replace that whole bit with one of these:

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#17 posted 09-06-2017 02:57 PM

I’m looking pretty hard at the saw right now, myself. I will definitely keep track of this thread.

While that T-junction is a suction-killer in most applications, I doubt if it’s bad in this one…..

Because, really…..how much dust do you generate from the top of the saw? Nowhere near what you do from the bottom of the blade.

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#18 posted 09-06-2017 04:22 PM



I m looking pretty hard at the saw right now, myself. I will definitely keep track of this thread.

While that T-junction is a suction-killer in most applications, I doubt if it s bad in this one…..

Because, really…..how much dust do you generate from the top of the saw? Nowhere near what you do from the bottom of the blade.

- 01ntrain

The problem with over arm dust collection isn’t just how much but the velocity if the dust. It moves so fast you really need to have good airflow to move a lot of air to get it sucked up.

The one thing though that will help is that Grizzly tends to run a 3” hose from the 4” port to the saw blade so at least will cause a bit more suction from the overhead dust port.

On my Grizzly saw, I had the shroud re-welded to put a 4” port on it and then ran a 4” hose to the bottom of the saw and so now I have 4” to the blade and 4” on the overhead, but I’m also running a 5hp dust collector with 6” main trunk.

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chimpwoodshop

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#19 posted 09-09-2017 11:26 PM

Wanted to drop a quick update. I had hoped to have some good info for you today…..
UPS Freight called Wed to schedule a delivery for Thursday 12-6.
Thursday afternoon they called to say it didn’t make it to the local depo that day so reschedule for Friday 12-6
Friday…......... 6pm I call to see what is up.

I’m told they “can’t locate the shipment”. uggg.. It got to ATL 5am, but my 6am they couldn’t locate it.

The biggest thing that annoys me is they didn’t call with an update. I had to hunt them down.

So anyway, UPS and Grizzly are looking for it.

if it shows up I’ll update the thread.

-- Jeff - www.instagram.com/chimpwoodshop

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#20 posted 09-10-2017 03:39 AM

hey guys! who knows where I can get a cheap stock rip fence for a Ridgid 4512 Thanks.

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#21 posted 09-10-2017 05:34 AM

I have a similar setup and it works just fine. With your idea you will have a slightly different air distribution, more to the bladeguard less to the saw. I am not sure that that was your intent, but that is what you will get.


The overarm hose has a right angle junction there. A wye junction would preserve more airflow. As it is, you ll get next to no effective airflow at the blade.

The saw looks interesting, but you d want to replace that whole bit with one of these:

- jonah

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#22 posted 09-10-2017 05:59 AM



Because, really…..how much dust do you generate from the top of the saw? Nowhere near what you do from the bottom of the blade.

- 01ntrain


Quite a lot actually: https://youtu.be/9aEucL1K1mU

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#23 posted 09-16-2017 12:33 PM

Almost purchased a sawstop yesterday but couldn’t pull the trigger without more research.
Safety features aside, I can’t imagine the sawstop is 2 1/2 times the saw as the grizzly, as the price indicates.
Any further info from someone who owns this saw would be greatly appreciated.

-- Life is hard; It's even harder if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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#24 posted 09-16-2017 03:54 PM



Almost purchased a sawstop yesterday but couldn t pull the trigger without more research.
Safety features aside, I can t imagine the sawstop is 2 1/2 times the saw as the grizzly, as the price indicates.
Any further info from someone who owns this saw would be greatly appreciated.

- Easterlake

The extra cost is something you will have to consider. What is the value of the safety feature alone worth to you. Then, take the extra cost and try to compare apples to apples. If you’re pricing the pcs cabinet or the ics or the contractor saw?

I have a Grizzly table saw and a few other Grizzly tools but everything I have heard and read and see, the Saw Stop really is one of the best built table saws overall. Even over the Powermatics.

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chimpwoodshop

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#25 posted 09-19-2017 06:23 PM

I got the saw all assembled over the weekend. The top of the fence, which will be the face of the fence in low profile orientation, was damaged a little bit during shipping. Its not a huge dent, but if I was running something along it and had pressure on the front it would move the workpiece. Grizzly was very nice on the phone, however since its a new product the fence is backordered. They are seeing what they can do and will get back to me.

Aside from that, the saw is very solid. All the pieces are heavy, blade guard on top moves smoothly, fence glides well.
I would up taking the top off to make is lighter when wheeling it around my to my basement door. Even without a top, it was heavy.

Unfortunately since I just moved (Chicago to GA) and am building my new shop, I don’t have any wood around to cut up (other than 2×4s that I need to start framing). I was all excited to do some test cuts, just used to having tons of scrap around, that it wasn’t till I went to get a piece I realized I had no scraps.

I will say it is a a lot quieter than I was expecting which is nice. I’ll try to get some wood this week to cut up, or when I start framing cut up the scraps. However it will be a while until I start doing real building and put through it’s paces.

But if there are any specific questions let me know and I’ll try to get an answer.

-- Jeff - www.instagram.com/chimpwoodshop

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#26 posted 09-21-2017 06:17 AM

Do you have it hooked up to a dust collector and, if so, how good is it?
Thanks

-- Life is hard; It's even harder if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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#27 posted 09-21-2017 11:25 PM

Not yet, but this weekend I will have some time to test out the dust collection and general cut quality.

-- Jeff - www.instagram.com/chimpwoodshop

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#28 posted 09-23-2017 03:47 PM

Looking forward to hearing about it….thanks

-- Life is hard; It's even harder if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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Ryan Bruzan

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#29 posted 09-24-2017 07:19 PM

SawStop or G0833P? Should I, shouldn’t I, should I, shouldn’t I. As a professional cabinetmaker of 17 years, this is a difficult choice to make. I can swing the SS financially and highly value the safety features, but I also appreciate the features and price I see on the 0833. I would love to get this Grizzly saw and demo it, but I am getting older and I do this for a living so the SS safety weighs more heavily. It only takes one time to put me out of commission, but the kids are grown and my wife still loves me.

Another factor in my decision is that I just bought a Festool track saw last week and like the potential it has for business production (first Festool, first track saw).

I have never owned or used either SawStop or Grizzly machinery, or Festool for the matter. I have absolutely no doubt that the quality each can produce will be sufficient for and, for now, excessive of my needs. Nevertheless, it is still a tough decision. Somewhere in my review, I heard or read someone say that “this was the last saw they wanted to have to buy.” Me too.

So, I ask meself, do I play guinea pig and go for the Grizzly, or do I play it safe and invest in the SawStop? Either way I believe it is a win.

-- No matter how many factors go into thinking about a project, there is always one important new discovery to be made.

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#30 posted 09-24-2017 07:54 PM

Ryan, you can just call me a guinea pig. I ordered the Grizzly this afternoon. I’ll be connecting it to my G0703 dust collector (using 4” flex hose initially and rigid ductwork later). I suspect the stock dust ports will be much better than my job-site saw with a 2-1/2” port.

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Ryan Bruzan

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#31 posted 09-25-2017 02:59 AM

Enjoy that saw ChipperBob. You can certainly be in the top ten reviews for it and leave some good notes about it on Grizzly’s web page.

-- No matter how many factors go into thinking about a project, there is always one important new discovery to be made.

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Easterlake

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#32 posted 09-25-2017 03:09 AM

I hear what you’re saying. I’ll be 60 next year so this will be my last saw also.
I have a 12 year old General contractor saw that I’ve tried to rig up dust collecting for, but it’s a losing battle for the most part.
If I purchase the Grizzly, I can add a new band saw and still have money left over compared to the cost of the Saw Stop.
I do like my fingers though.

-- Life is hard; It's even harder if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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chimpwoodshop

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#33 posted 09-27-2017 02:13 PM

Sorry for the delay on updates.
I hooked up the saw Monday to the HF dust collector (unmodified at the moment). I haven’t done a ton of cuts with the saw as my priority is building the new show (framing, walls, lights, .....).

The cabinet collection works well. Not sure if this is a standard thing on cabinet type saws, but underneath and around the blade is kind of a housing that connects directly to a hose that goes to the port. So its almost like the blade is wrapped for dust collection.

I tried to do some tests with the blade guard collection. First I just used it like a regular vacuum and vacuumed up some dust I dumped on the table. Worked great. Sucked up the line of dust.

Next I poured some dust on a piece of cardboard and pushed it into the blade guard housing (with the blade out) to see how the suction worked. I was thinking the whole housing was like open inside, meaning dust could be sucked from anywhere in it. However, the way it works is the front arm thing acts like a tube connected to the top part where the vacuum connects. Thing of like a U on its side with the bend facing the front, and one leg of the U is the hose, the other end rides along the top of the wood and directly in front of where the blade cuts. Hope that makes sense.

The suction from the tube running on top of the wood in front of the blade is good, got a majority of the dust. Will definitely have to get some more use to fully test it. BUT I can definitely say it is way better than no blade guard vacuum or even just a blade guard keeping the dust from flying around. So I’m happy.

Other than that, the saw is great. Well built, everything is solid. I did have to shim one of the wings with a piece of tape on the top half to get it all level, but that is in the directions.

Also, the ‘bear crawl’ mobile base is awesome!. I can move the saw around very easily and it locks and unlocks with 2 foot levers.

I made a video as like a first look review of the saw if you are interested. Visually might explain the dust part better. I give an overview of the saw.
https://youtu.be/gsPW-nZqDAk

I’m happy to answer other questions as best I can.

-- Jeff - www.instagram.com/chimpwoodshop

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awilson

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#34 posted 09-27-2017 05:59 PM

Thanks for the great video, exactly what I was hoping would come out of this forum. Your basement shop build looks a lot like the one I’m trying to save for so hopefully more videos to come!

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chimpwoodshop

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#35 posted 09-27-2017 06:13 PM

Thanks, glad it was helpful.

I’m definitely planning on making some additional videos, it was fun. Next week I’m focusing on making some progress on that shop build so I can get back to woodworking soon!

-- Jeff - www.instagram.com/chimpwoodshop

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Ryan Bruzan

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#36 posted 09-27-2017 10:32 PM

Well, I decided on the G0690, ordered it today. I only need to find a dust collecting blade guard.

-- No matter how many factors go into thinking about a project, there is always one important new discovery to be made.

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#37 posted 09-27-2017 10:37 PM

Great video. It’s really helpful to show the features of such a new saw. It looks like a nice saw from a glance. Thanks for posting.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#38 posted 09-28-2017 02:37 AM

Very nice video. You covered just about everything and kept it interesting.

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#39 posted 09-28-2017 10:21 AM

Ryan, congratulations on your order. Tell us all about it, but but don’t make it look so good that I regret my order.
On YouTube, Dan Pattison has a video describing the overarm dust collector he built. It might give you some ideas.

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#40 posted 09-28-2017 10:32 AM

Jeff, thanks for the update and video. You highlighted some details on the hand wheels, fence, and dust collection that are not very detailed in the Grizzly information. Since I have not used a full-size table saw, I wasn’t sure how those things function. I like the way the blade dust collection deflects the forward-moving dust from the top of the blade toward the rear-moving air stream in the hose.
I do not understand why you removed the table from the saw. Did you do that to move the saw into the basement?

My G0833P is in the hands of UPS Freight. They are not slow, but I am impatient.

I did not order a mobile base; I’ll see if I feel the need for one later. I looked at the ShopFox bases, but was not impressed. I didn’t see the Bear Crawl, but I like it better. Let us know what you think of it.

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#41 posted 09-28-2017 10:37 AM

Thanks Jeff. It’s nice finally seeing the saw in action.
Good luck with your shop.

-- Life is hard; It's even harder if you're stupid. - John Wayne

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#42 posted 09-28-2017 01:30 PM

Thanks for the comments on the video, I had fun making it.

ChipperBob, as to removing the table top. I actually had a minute or two on my shop and delivery of the saw in that video that I cut out because it kind of dragged on. Removing the top was just because of my shop location in the basement. My basement is level with the back yard and has a door opening outside and the front of my house is level (well a little above) with the street. So the side yard is a hill going back, but also had a decent slope to the side. So I was just worried that the saw would fall over, even strapped to the hand truck.

If you don’t have to deal with a multi-angle hill, or have some help (I didn’t want to crush my wife by making her try to help) you definitely don’t have to remove the top. That said, if you take the set screws out it takes like 2 minutes to pop it off. It did help a lot to get all the grease off that they put on the gears for shipping and put dry lube on them.

The mobile base is awesome. I’m really impressed with how easy the saw is to move around. My shop is going to be pretty small (11×19’) so i just need to be able to move as many things as possible.

UPS freight was interesting because they routed my saw to the wrong state mid stream, so it was delayed a week, which drove me a little crazy just because I was excited for it. But, once it showed up the driver was great. Not sure about your situation, but I had to get the ‘lift gate’ service since it was going to my house. In case you are unaware, they are only required to take it off the lift and drop it as your curb side. I chatted up and driver and she was nice enough to pull it up into my garage. That saved my butt because otherwise I would have had to take everything apart at the end of my driveway and drag it up the driveway which is also on a little hill!

Anyway, All worked out.

-- Jeff - www.instagram.com/chimpwoodshop

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#43 posted 10-01-2017 03:05 AM

I can relate to everything you went through. UPS Freight cannot deliver to my rural house. I used an address in town but they only deliver to my town on Tuesday and Thursday. I was not going to wait for delivery so we arranged to meet in the next town. The drivers were great and wheeled the saw into my little trailer. The saw was too heavy for me to unload by myself so I opened the box and removed the extension tables. It was still very heavy.
I WILL be getting a mobile base for it; it is too heavy to scoot around. It is still on the wooden skid.
I am upgrading from a portable job-site saw so I’m basing my comparison on that. The Grizzly saw is built heavy. Most parts are steel or iron; very few are aluminum or plastic. It went together well and runs very smoothly. With nothing connected to the dust port, a little sawdust landed on the table. Most of it spewed onto the floor by the port. With my G0703 collector connected, very little dust hit the table.
Here were the issues I found. I installed the front rail parallel to the top but it was too low; the fence did not have enough vertical adjustment. I raised rail in the slots and realigned it. On the rear rail, when I tightened the final screw, the rail deflected vertically by 0.030”. One of the extension tables is about 0.010” longer than the main table. Tightening the screw nearest that offset bows the rail. I will shim it later but for now, I have removed that screw. The chamfer at the rear of the top does not match the chamfer on the extension tables. I assume there is no functional reason for the difference.
Before I install the scale for the fence, I will need to decide whether to align it for the tall fence or the short fence. In the other configuration, the scale will be wrong. Any recommendations or thoughts?
I can tell this saw is a huge upgrade from my portable saw, just because I have moved to a heavier class of saw.

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Avi

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#44 posted 10-02-2017 06:41 AM

I have this exact saw under the Harvey name.

(Harvey is the Chinese manufacturer, and sells under its own name outside the US). The only difference is, I did not get the extra top hose, wire holder and T fitting, and the on/off is a magnetic one and not the one shown by Jeff. I guess those are something that Grizzly USA adds.

Mine also came with the sliding table, because that’s the way the importer is selling it here. (It’s on the Grizzly site for about 650$).

Dust: I wanted to point out the when using the saw with only the riving knife, and not the whole guard thing, (which is the way I usually use it – I know, I know, but I also use Grippers, and sleds, and push sticks etc), the overhead dust is much worse than I hoped. Indeed, inside the cabinet, there is virtually no dust, because the dust goes directly into the 3 inch hose, as Jeff said. But when I used a taper jig or did some trim cuts, it made a horrible mess on the table – it SEEMS to me, even more than my old trusty Bosch did. Maybe I am doing it wrong.
Note, I have not gotten my Leecraft ZC inserts yet. I hope that might make a difference. (The lip is pretty tiny AND shallow, so I do not trust myself to make my own inserts.).

Noise: With no blade, it’s pretty quiet. But with a blade on, it’s pretty loud, not much softer than my non-induction Bosch was (siren effect? etc). I tried some different blades, a ridge carbide super and a 24t rip. Same noise.

When I did try the blade guard, though, (with no vacuum, as mentioned) the dust was NOT that much better. I suppose I can attach a hose and fit a Y fitting and see if that significantly improves it.

I am a bit concerned about what seems to be wobble. My blades are new and high quality, so it can’t be the blades. When I used a gauge on the arbor itself, there was virtually NO wobble. But with a blade, I see it after the brake kicks in after stopping, so maybe it’s something to do with the brake.

Also, with a blade on, it takes a full 10 secs to fully stop. With no blade, the arbor stops within about 3 secs. I would like to compare with Jeff or Chipper, and see if this is normal. 10 secs seems like a long time.
By the way, I had the exact same issues also with the rails, but I managed to get it set up. I set the scale for the high fence.

It did take some calibration of the fence, I had to shim and actually enlarge the holes of the sliding table and cut down the fence rails to fit my tiny shop. Mine says on it 2.5HP, not 2, don’t know why there is a discrepancy. See pic of the motor.

I was unable to buy here a wheeled base, and in any case, I have the sliding table, so I made my own L shaped base. I used 6 heavy duty wheels on it. It does raise the saw, but I am 6’ so it’s fine for me. It also makes it convenient to store the large miter gauge that comes with the sliding part.

Also added an outfeed table.

Overall, for me, it’s a huge upgrade, I only used the sliding table a couple times, but when I did, it was fantastic. I think I will need to learn how to use it better. I still made a crosscut sled, well because.

See here some images I took. I think I will put the outfeed table as a Project.
https://imgur.com/a/dEpMW

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#45 posted 10-03-2017 12:08 PM

Avi, my saw blade takes about 10 seconds to stop. I don’t think it has any sort of brake. My motor makes a clicking noise as it stops, but I think that is the motor switching the capacitors on or off. My motor is 2 HP. I have not noticed the blade wobbling but I will watch for it.
I did not mean to imply that the saw is nearly dust free or that the blade guard is perfect. When trimming less than 1/2” from a board, it spews dust across the left side of the table. Some of the narrow pieces bind with the side plate of the blade guard. A couple of the pieces wedged into the finger slit in the riving knife. As I finish a cut and lift the workpiece, the upper hose is in the way. I haven’t learned to work around it yet. It bothers me that I cannot align a mark on the workpiece with the edge of the blade. I will mark the kerf on the table in front of the blade. I will probably make those cuts with just the riving knife.

I don’t understand how a zero clearance insert would improve you under-table dust collection. In my limited experience, it seems that a zero clearance sled blocks airflow and dust collection. Am I missing something?

I plan to make a crosscut sled and outfeed table after I get more familiar with the saw. I am still adjusting to some of the differences between this saw and my old one. I ripped several pieces last night and they were all the same width. It seems like an obvious result, but I struggled to get consistent results with my old saw.

I have ordered my Bear Crawl.

Ryan, I look forward to hearing how you like your saw. Hopefully, your delivery and setup will be uneventful.

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Avi

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#46 posted 10-03-2017 12:28 PM

Bob, I am hoping the zc will keep some of the dust from flying to the sides. I might be stupidly wrong about that.

Maybe indeed it’s not a break, the sound I hear after I turn off the saw, but it sure seems that way. I wonder how long it takes your arbor to stop with no blade. Out of curiosity, can you take a pic of your motor?

I had to make a sled for something I wanted to do.
Overall, I am pretty darn happy with it.

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chimpwoodshop

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#47 posted 10-03-2017 03:00 PM

My sawblade also takes several seconds to spin down, but I haven’t really timed it. I didn’t think the saw had a break, I’m not positive though. My bandsaw makes the same sound when I shut it off as well when it goes in to free spin to slow down. I thought it was just the bearings spinning, something like that.

Avi, are you saying with the blade attached but NOT cutting the saw is super loud? There isn’t much noise difference with my saw between blade and no blade. Now when I cut something it obviously gets louder, but still way quieter than my old Delta contractor/jobsite pos. I haven’t noticed a wobble but I will check again looking out for it.
The sliding table saw attachment looks nice!

The contour of the wing on the back of the table is on mine also. I thought at first I had them on backwards or something but both
sides are the same. My random guess is they used the same wings from another saw that has a matching contour?

I haven’t put the scale / ruler on yet. But when I do, I’m planning on aligning it to the vertical fence. I feel like I will use it more often in that configuration. It would be slick to make a new one that had the top numbers set to the vertical fence and bottom row set to the low profile fence. Maybe someday.

Chipper, for aligning the mark to the blade, a trick I saw Izzy Swan demonstrate in his table saw setup video, is to get a straight edge and align it with the blade, then make a light cut in the table top down to the front with a razor blade or something. Then you have a cut line for each blade that you can use farther out. Haven’t actually tried it, but it seemed like a good idea.

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#48 posted 10-05-2017 11:53 AM

I ran the saw without the blade last night. It seemed to be a little louder than with the blade, but it is louder without the insert. Have you checked to be sure the blade and washer are seated fully?

I positioned the scale to use it with the tall fence. When I use the low fence, I will adjust my numbers or measure to the blade.
I made some cuts to a pencil line. I need to mark the kerf on the table. I will look for Izzy’s hint.
The upper dust hose bothers me. It tends to be on my way. I haven’t found the best position for the support wire, but i like that it acts as a fence stop. That could keep me from sliding the fence off the end of the rails.
With every cut, I am pleased with the saw.

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#49 posted 11-13-2017 11:36 PM

This just went on Black Friday Sale for $825 Really tempting, any new reviews from anyone? I have been using a old ryobi BT300 that I made my own top for so I could use sleds etc, This might be a worthwhile update for me.

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#50 posted 11-17-2017 04:53 AM

I want to thank you Jeff and ChipperBob. I purchased this saw on the Black Friday Sale earlier today based on your comments and feedback. I’ve been considering getting into the hobby for a number of years and finally decided to take the plunge. Seeing as this is the first major tool purchase, I agonized over the Jet, SawStop, Powermatic, and Grizzly contractor saws. I narrowed it down to the SawStop and Grizzly and decided to go with the Grizzly as I can outfit a good chunk of my shop for the same price as the SawStop Pro.

With any luck I’ll have it before the long holiday weekend!

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