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Festool quality

by MrRon
posted 08-12-2017 06:12 PM


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msinc

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#1 posted 08-12-2017 06:29 PM

I like quality too, but three times the cost of the next closest thing to it?? That is the “weakness”. High cost doesn’t make it proportionately that much better. The people who buy Festool will no doubt jump on here and tell us all that it is worth what they paid. If they really feel that way or they are justifying their actions, either way it’s okay with me.
Take routers for example…entry level is in a range of somewhere around $150-$200, you can get a little better “nice” one for $250-$300…now jump to the Festool and they are all over $1000. I cannot imagine needing three times better than my Bosch, let alone actually being three times better. Better how
? I just don’t see the features being that much better if at all. I know they are nice tools and I wish all mine were Festool, but for the money and the return and the ability to maintain resale value….it’s just not there for me.

Edit: I still don’t know why half my posts show up in italics…I am not doing it. Even if I try to go back and edit…the italics don’t show to take them away.

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#2 posted 08-12-2017 06:33 PM

If you’re looking for an excuse not to buy one, you don’t need an excuse, just don’t buy one. I really like my Festool sander and have nothing negative to say other than the sandpaper isn’t enough better to justify the high price. It’s a well designed and well built tool that I’m happy to use. But I haven’t tried every sander on the market so I can’t say it’s the best or second best; only that it’s the best I’ve used. I am considering buying a Domino but I don’t make a living from woodworking so it would be an expensive luxury.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#3 posted 08-12-2017 06:36 PM


Edit: I still don t know why half my posts show up in italics…I am not doing it. Even if I try to go back and edit…the italics don t show to take them away.
- msinc

It’s the extra question marks ?? that you put into your posts. ??
I don’t know why either, but that is the cause.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#4 posted 08-12-2017 06:48 PM

Great engineering and dust collection cost money.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#5 posted 08-12-2017 06:55 PM

There are some complaints. The Kapex sliding
miter saws have a reputation for burning out
for example.

With the Festool system you get more speed
in working because it’s so well designed and
the accessories help solve set-up problems
quickly. There’s a guy on Youtube who took
a Festool track saw apart and complained about
components he thought were pretty cheap
for such a pricey saw.

I own some Festool stuff and haven’t had
any problems with it.

I think however it’s unreasonable to expect
a Festool saw that costs twice as much as
a Makita to outlast the Makita in daily
use by twice as long.

Festool stuff also has great resale value so
if you take care of the tools they can be
resold at little loss. I can’t say that for
any other common power tool brand in the
USA.

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#6 posted 08-12-2017 06:57 PM

I just can’t think of anything bad about the design or function of my Festool Router or Domino.
There’s not many tools I’ve bought and used them right out of the box.I don’t mind the high price when quality is this good.
It good to support tool manufacturing that’s not in China.

Haven’t you guys had enough of their junk in your lives?

-- Aj

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waho6o9

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#7 posted 08-12-2017 07:15 PM

If you don’t like your purchase you can return within 30 days for a full refund, no

questions asked.

If it’s a sander you after make sure you have a dust extractor for it to function properly.

If you want the game changing Domino I’d say go for it with out hesitation. It’s imperative that
a dust extractor is used with the Domino.

So…. whatcha going to get?

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Rich

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#8 posted 08-12-2017 08:34 PM

The dust collection and well thought out packaging screams professional. If you are a contractor and show up at a remodel with a stack of systainers, do the job well, and leave behind zero sawdust, customers are going to love you. Even their router table has over and under dust collection. At least in videos I’ve seen, it really is pretty much dust free.

For the average guy like me working in my shop, it’s not worth the extra money — at least not for me. I only sell doors, I don’t hang them, so I’m never working on the job site.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#9 posted 08-12-2017 08:46 PM



........I think however it s unreasonable to expect
a Festool saw that costs twice as much as
a Makita to outlast the Makita in daily
use by twice as long.
- Loren

My point exactly…if it’s unreasonable to expect it to last twice as long then surely it has to be unreasonable to expect us to pay twice as much. Actually, based on the prices I have seen it’s closer to triple not double.

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msinc

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#10 posted 08-12-2017 08:49 PM


Edit: I still don t know why half my posts show up in italics…I am not doing it. Even if I try to go back and edit…the italics don t show to take them away.
- msinc

It s the extra question marks ?? that you put into your posts. ??
I don t know why either, but that is the cause.

- Rick M

Thank you sir, I wont do that anymore.

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#11 posted 08-12-2017 08:58 PM


........I think however it s unreasonable to expect
a Festool saw that costs twice as much as
a Makita to outlast the Makita in daily
use by twice as long.
- Loren

My point exactly…if it s unreasonable to expect it to last twice as long then surely it has to be unreasonable to expect us to pay twice as much. Actually, based on the prices I have seen it s closer to triple not double.

- msinc

If the durability/cost ratio is your only criteria
then Festool is surely not worth investing in.
If saving time doing installations or whatever
is the criteria, as it is for many professionals,
then it can be worth it. Certain Festool products
like the track saw and the Domino solve
specific problems very well and get the work
done efficiently. When time is money they
can make a lot of sense.

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Redoak49

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#12 posted 08-12-2017 09:29 PM

If you like the Festool and want it, go ahead and buy them. I have the track saw, dust extractor and sander. For me they are good values. I like the ergonomics of the Sanders and the ability to catch the dust. Other Sanders do not come close. When I bought the track saw, it was the best available with few other options.

If you do not like them and think they are not worth it, buy something cheaper.

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#13 posted 08-12-2017 09:32 PM

I don’t go along with resale value being an important point to consider. I don’t think many would buy a tool based on that premise. When I buy a tool, I intend on keeping it forever and passing it down to my heirs. The only tools I would sell (or give away) are inexpensive tools; those of poor quality. The good tools I will keep forever. I tend to be a tool junkie and buy only tools of the very best quality and within my means. If I can’t afford it, I wait and save my pennies. I have been stung too many times with tools that did not measure up to expectations. Of course there are people who don’t share my passion for tools. I am not a professional; just a DIY’er, retired and enjoying life with all it has to offer.

As I said in my OP, I have not heard any negatives about Festools themselves. Lacking any negative feedback, all I can assume is; Festools are the best and nothing can compare or outdo them. I kind a think it’s the same comparison between a Ford and a Rolls Royce. They both will get you there, but one will do it in style and if style is worth the cost, then that is the way to go.

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#14 posted 08-12-2017 09:55 PM

I am not a Festool junkie by any stretch of the imagination and find their prices hard to swallow. However, I try to buy quality tools so I only have to buy them once. I was buying Bosch tools and maybe I got a bad sander that I had repaired twice. When it died the third time, I bit the bullet and upgraded to my first Festool product. That sander is still with me 8 years later. I also had a Bosch router that had an issue (another fluke?) so I got an OF 1400 (no issues in 6 years) for about $500 at that time. The dependability of these two tools has been worth the price for me. The other benefit IMO is the technological innovation, e.g. dust collection, behind the tools that isn’t easy to quantify, but that doesn’t come cheap. FWIW

-- Art

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#15 posted 08-12-2017 10:13 PM



I am not a Festool junkie by any stretch of the imagination and find their prices hard to swallow. However, I try to buy quality tools so I only have to buy them once. I was buying Bosch tools and maybe I got a bad sander that I had repaired twice. ion, e.g. dust collection, behind the tools that isn t easy to quantify, but that doesn t come cheap. FWIW

- AandCstyle


I had a Bosch impact driver that quit on me. I bought another of the same and so far it is still working. If and when it quits, I may spring for a Festool. I will start saving my pennies for that day.

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Desert_Woodworker

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#16 posted 08-12-2017 11:09 PM

There is a YTube guy who tears down a $1000 Festool trac saw, literally. He is on YTube and to locate his vid – “ AVE Festool”- the results may surprise or discourage you.
Strong language, be advised

-- Desert_Woodworker

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#17 posted 08-13-2017 12:09 AM


I don t go along with resale value being an important point to consider. I don t think many would buy a tool based on that premise.

- MrRon

Then don’t…it’s pretty important to me because while I really do not buy a machine with the idea of ever selling it there might come a day when I might want/need to and at that point I prefer not to have to take a bath. I know two guys that just got $950 and $1000 respectively for Powermatic jointers when they upgraded. Both machines looked for all intents new, but were several years old each. You can buy the 54A for $1040 plus or minus with free shipping off of Amazon. I buy Powermatic stuff and resale value absolutely is a factor…is it THE factor? Nope, but it definitely is one. Buy a Festool router for $1000 plus and you would be hard pressed to get $500 back. At least around these parts anyway.
Don’t get me wrong, Festool is fantastic stuff, but that disproportionately fantastic price kills it.

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#18 posted 08-13-2017 12:59 AM


There is a YTube guy who tears down a $1000 Festool trac saw, literally. He is on YTube and to locate his vid – “ AVE Festool”- the results may surprise or discourage you.
Strong language, be advised

- Desert_Woodworker

I saw the video some time ago, poor guy wasted his time. He did “didn’t” my mind one bit. I have a Festool sander and vac that are 18 years and still preform like new. My 10 year old domino and track saw same story.
MY MFT gave me a bit of a problem but I worked it out. Oh yeah, I forgot my Festool LR 32mm Shelf Pin and Hinge Boring System and router -but I haven’t use it much as I though I would .

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#19 posted 08-13-2017 01:05 AM


I have read rave reviews on Festool tools, but have yet to hear anything negative, other than price. I just can t imagine anything being so good as to not have a weakness of some kind. Is there anyone out there who has anything negative to say about Festool? I m tempted to buy a Festool, even though I can t afford it, but I do like quality over price.

- MrRon


Which Festool you thinking of getting. Remember the 30 days return policy.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#20 posted 08-13-2017 01:06 AM

Alaska Guy- you saw the vid and please explain why he wasted his time? How did he change your mind?

-- Desert_Woodworker

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#21 posted 08-13-2017 01:12 AM


Alaska Guy- you saw the vid and please explain why he wasted his time? How did he change your mind?

- Desert_Woodworker

My poor typing, that should have said “didn’t” change my mine. A lot of stuff goes missing or changes between my brain and my fingers at the keyboard. :)

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#22 posted 08-13-2017 01:46 AM

I have two sanders and a router from Festool. They are great tools. The only complain I have is that there are two different connectors on the machine end of the power plugs. One of the cords works on all the machines and one will only work on the sanders. Annoying.

-- Ken

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#23 posted 08-13-2017 05:14 AM

Not to hijack this thread, but …...

Ricky M, have you tried Mirka sandpaper?
I found the uniformity of the grit to be more uniform … just on magnified appearance alone, no scientific measurements!
I bought some, a pack of four different grits, on a clearance from my favorite lumber yard than closed.

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#24 posted 08-13-2017 05:25 AM



Not to hijack this thread, but …...

Ricky M, have you tried Mirka sandpaper?
I found the uniformity of the grit to be more uniform … just on magnified appearance alone, no scientific measurements!
I bought some, a pack of four different grits, on a clearance from my favorite lumber yard than closed.

- oldnovice

My favorite too. It lasts forever and the finish is better than any other disk I’ve used. Their Mirlon Total non-woven pads beat any 3M-type as well.

If I ever decide to enter the $500+ sander club, it’ll be a Mirka.

Woodworker’s Source here in town had a 25% off sale on any five boxes of 50 disks that I took advantage of, so I think I’m set for a long time to come.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#25 posted 08-13-2017 05:37 AM

I don’t like the bushing bearing in the track saw but I have a buddy who abuses all his festool stuff and he swears by it

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#26 posted 08-13-2017 08:14 AM



Not to hijack this thread, but …...

Ricky M, have you tried Mirka sandpaper?
I found the uniformity of the grit to be more uniform … just on magnified appearance alone, no scientific measurements!
I bought some, a pack of four different grits, on a clearance from my favorite lumber yard than closed.

- oldnovice

I have and it’s impressive, but only the sheets. I haven’t tried the discs.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#27 posted 08-13-2017 12:17 PM

I’ve got a lot of festool, and paid a ton of money for it, but not had a single “Failure” since I bought the first one years ago and I mean years ago. Last one was the Kapex when it first came out, so I don’t know but thats a long time. I’ve lived in my current place for 9 years and it was before that.

It’s all top notch quality, and ergonomics & DC is where they start and it shows. Only tool of theirs I let go was the domino. Only sold it to fund my floor standing powermatic mortiser. sold it for close to what I paid for it. Kinda wish I’d held it, would been handy a few times.

Even the drill’s battery packs are still good on my drills going on close to ten years.

The old saying holds true…buy once cry once!

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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#28 posted 08-13-2017 12:42 PM

Festool is better than most but not perfect. If you have The money Festool is the way to go, if not the other name brands aren’t that bad…

We have had trouble with Festool. Using a tool 8hrs a day will show its weakness..

Sanders that’s another story…

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#29 posted 08-13-2017 12:51 PM

I make small crafty items and want a lightweight random orbital sander. I have three, but the the one that I like best and use the most, is Festool’s small sander. It is light and smooth running. It is smooth running, because even at it’s highest speed, it runs kinda slow as compared to my Porter Cable and my DeWalt. I had a strange vibration in it after almost a year, and took it back to where I bought it (A local rockler representative equipment sales shop). He sent it in and they fixed it, no charge. Works well again. So their warranty is good. It took a few weeks though.

-- No PHD just a DD214 Website> craftingcouple.com

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#30 posted 08-13-2017 01:00 PM

I don’t own any Festool products because I’m a hobbyist woodworker and don’t use my tools enough to wear them out.
However, my Son in law has a custom remodeling/woodworking/cabinet business in Chicago and has walls filled with Festool boxes because, as he said, he “can’t afford cheap tools”.
I’m looking at their small sander, just because I hate sanding, and anything I can do to make it easier would be worth it.
Buy what you need, and, if you need dependability for the long haul, don’t skimp.

-- A good day is any day that you're alive....

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#31 posted 08-13-2017 01:28 PM

There are only 3 Festool machines I really like, the TS55 , the Rotex and the CXS (I absolutely love the CXS). The rest of their tools are overpriced imo and you won’t see them in my company.

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#32 posted 08-13-2017 02:46 PM



There are only 3 Festool machines I really like, the TS55 , the Rotex and the CXS (I absolutely love the CXS). The rest of their tools are overpriced imo and you won t see them in my company.

- Lemwise

There tools are aren’t overpriced. There just not made cheap….

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#33 posted 08-13-2017 04:03 PM

Was looking at them at Lee Valley yesterday and her in Canada the prices go up weekly it seems!
Way over my pay grade, and I remembered that old cliche it’s the operator not the tool which in
my case would definitely be the case ! WEnt and picked up an offset chisel just because ya can’t go to
Lee Valley and not buy something! Oh ya and a couple of Opinel carving knifes, the #6 and #8 now
I have all 3, just wish I could actually carve!

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#34 posted 08-13-2017 04:23 PM

Of course they’re overpriced. As long as there are some people willing to pay that price, it won’t change though.

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#35 posted 08-13-2017 04:35 PM

On resale, I agree – that is a questionable consideration. I have a loose leaf binder I put together to give my wife an idea of the value of my tools, in event I vacate this earthly coil before her. Hopefully, she’ll look to it and the notes so some ass doesn’t convince her my cabinet saw is only worth three hundred, including all the jigs, blades, spliter, over-arm dust collection and such. At any rate, it she sees I paid over five hundred for a hand sander, she might toss my ashes down an outhouse hole, or dig me up.

The foregoing aside, I found it noteworthy that my exotic wood wholesaler replaced his Festool miter with a Makita or Hitachee, because they handled the workload better.

As to the router, I’ve seen a few complaints about build quality. Too, I’ll take my D handle over Festool’s strange handle configuration every day of the week.

As to sanders, I now have the bargain one and a Rotex. Both run off a Ridged five gallon vac running through a Dust Deputy, with a twenty foot hose, which I modified by drilling holes, to reduce air flow, then covered with a pieces of PVC, which has a piece sliced out so it can be turned on the hose to cover the holes or leave them open, like many house vac’s can do. In the end, it allows me to avoid that part of the proprietary problem and still get the kind of collection needed to get great dust collection.

In the end, it remains no one company has the corner on all things good, and some of us may have to save a while (e.g., years) to save the money necessary to buy a costly toy, uh, tool.

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#36 posted 08-13-2017 04:53 PM



If you don t like your purchase you can return within 30 days for a full refund, no

questions asked.

- waho6o9

It is not “No questions asked”. It can be a hassle. Stores have to get approval from Festool it take a return. I had to meet with the Festool rep to be able to return a drill.
My Domino xl came with a minor defect. They would not let me exchange it. Said I had to send it to Festool to get repaired. Or I could call the rep myself.

-- TruCraftFurniture.com

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#37 posted 08-13-2017 05:20 PM

Good to know Drew, thank you.

I’ve never bothered with a store sorry to hear to the hassles you had.

I use a trusted source like Bob Marino:
http://www.bobmarinosbesttools.com

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#38 posted 08-13-2017 05:22 PM

Festool, The CXS/TXS line of 10.8 volt drills uses brushes (not brushless like the others in the lineup). The design makes these brushes non-replaceable, so you need a new motor once the brushes wear down.

Kapex- in an effort to get those cutting specs with a ten inch blade the blade travels (cuts) almost to the arbor. That makes them prone to kickback and small flying cutoffs. Now add to that Festool decided to use a plastic blade shroud (the upper cover over the blade). Ever see a plastic blade shroud on any other miter saw? Me either. True that shroud has some brilliant design incorporated in it. If a piece gets jammed in there, the inner shroud rotates down forcing it against the sides of the blade, and acting like a brake, but why isn’t the outer piece metal?

Now once your Festool needs service you’re covered by Festool’s SERVICE all-inclusive. The one with three year warranty, 48 hour turn around time and free shipping to that repair depot in North America? Sorry, that only applies if it’s a warranty repair, if it’s ‘abnormal use’, user error or out of warranty you pay. The repair cost? Roughly $260 an hour in 2016 (I’m Canadian, but that’s the rough conversion to US). And their fast turn around time? I had to send my Kapex in for a second time to get them to replace all the broken bits. So once you get your bill, suck it up and pay. But wait, Festool wants you to be happy, so if you complain effectively they’ll reduce the price or even waive the fee.

-- Just a Duffer

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#39 posted 08-13-2017 05:31 PM



Of course they re overpriced. As long as there are some people willing to pay that price, it won t change though.

- TaySC

How do you know there overpriced?

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#40 posted 08-13-2017 05:34 PM

Thank you Harvey, good stuff to know.

-- Desert_Woodworker

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#41 posted 08-13-2017 07:10 PM

All miter saws are prone to send small pieces flying, that isn’t brand specific, just physics for any spinning blade.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#42 posted 08-13-2017 07:19 PM

After posting this, it appears that not all Festool customers are completely satisfied; even a Rolls Royce can break down. Bottom line; nothing is 100% perfect, not even a multi million dollar, F-18 fighter jet.

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#43 posted 08-13-2017 07:24 PM



Festool, The CXS/TXS line of 10.8 volt drills uses brushes (not brushless like the others in the lineup). The design makes these brushes non-replaceable, so you need a new motor once the brushes wear down.

Kapex- in an effort to get those cutting specs with a ten inch blade the blade travels (cuts) almost to the arbor. That makes them prone to kickback and small flying cutoffs. Now add to that Festool decided to use a plastic blade shroud (the upper cover over the blade). Ever see a plastic blade shroud on any other miter saw? Me either. True that shroud has some brilliant design incorporated in it. If a piece gets jammed in there, the inner shroud rotates down forcing it against the sides of the blade, and acting like a brake, but why isn’t the outer piece metal?

Now once your Festool needs service you re covered by Festool s SERVICE all-inclusive. The one with three year warranty, 48 hour turn around time and free shipping to that repair depot in North America? Sorry, that only applies if it s a warranty repair, if it s ‘abnormal use’, user error or out of warranty you pay. The repair cost? Roughly $260 an hour in 2016 (I’m Canadian, but that s the rough conversion to US). And their fast turn around time? I had to send my Kapex in for a second time to get them to replace all the broken bits. So once you get your bill, suck it up and pay. But wait, Festool wants you to be happy, so if you complain effectively they’ll reduce the price or even waive the fee.

- HarveyM


How many Festools do you own

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#44 posted 08-13-2017 07:25 PM

I’m really in the market for a good impact driver, but Festool doesn’t make one. I’m looking to Dewalt. I have 2 Bosch drivers and they can’t compare to the Dewalt my son has. It drives screws about 3x faster than the Bosch.

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#45 posted 08-13-2017 07:51 PM

I own a few. The Kapex story is my experience. At the time another Kapex user in my town was going though the same story with Festool. When I realized that my ‘repaired’ saw still had broken pieces on it, my heart sank. Then I found out that he got a 38% price reduction on repairs and I hit the roof.

-- Just a Duffer

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#46 posted 08-13-2017 07:54 PM


I m really in the market for a good impact driver, but Festool doesn t make one. I m looking to Dewalt. I have 2 Bosch drivers and they can t compare to the Dewalt my son has. It drives screws about 3x faster than the Bosch.

- MrRon

I’ve been happy with this one. One feature I really like it that ability to set 3 different power levels and the battery charge level indicator.

When shopping for these be very careful which model you pick, there are several models and different configuration so read the descriptions carefully

I have 3 of these Ive using for 3 years or more with no complaints.

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2653-22

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#47 posted 08-13-2017 10:19 PM

To avoid flying off fall pieces I added a zero clearance to my miter saw and it’s
very effective.

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#48 posted 08-14-2017 12:59 AM

I have two drivers over five years old (14.4). From running them, ability to drive is huge, but so is being able to tame the driver. Since my Panasonic has three settings, that reason, alone, makes it my favorite over the newer Makita I have.

I don’t know where Panasonic is compared to the other big players these days, but the one I have is stronger than my newer Makita, and it’s lighter.


I m really in the market for a good impact driver, but Festool doesn t make one. I m looking to Dewalt. I have 2 Bosch drivers and they can t compare to the Dewalt my son has. It drives screws about 3x faster than the Bosch.

- MrRon


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#49 posted 08-14-2017 01:01 AM

Of course, keeping the blade down, until it stops, cuts the problem of flying pieces to a fraction of what they are when the blade is lifted while spinning/


All miter saws are prone to send small pieces flying, that isn t brand specific, just physics for any spinning blade.

- Rick M


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#50 posted 08-14-2017 02:46 AM

Kelly

Before I when with Milwaukee I had Panasonic for a number of years. They are a good tool. The only draw back for me was no one In Alaska sold them and if I needed a battery I’d have mail order it. When the time came I went with some I could locally. It just makes life easier.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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