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Cutting triangles

by Stevinmarin
posted 05-08-2010 07:50 PM


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Dennisgrosen

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#1 posted 05-08-2010 08:19 PM

use a mitre sledge in the oppesite direction
and if you can´t. build a half frame attach it to the mitre sledge
and then sit the sqare pieces against the frame
and cut it right thrugh from corner to corner

Dennis

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Drew

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#2 posted 05-08-2010 08:47 PM

What kind of triangle?
Right Angled, Obtuse or Acute?

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Stevinmarin

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#3 posted 05-08-2010 09:08 PM

Well, the equilateral triangle needs equal 60 degree angles. The other one is obtuse. Sort of a squatty one.

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rance

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#4 posted 05-08-2010 10:00 PM

That would be such acute triangle. Hey, someone had to say it.

Steve, for the I saw solice, a tapering jig would get you most of the way there. I’ll think about the equilateral one and maybe get back with you on that one.

(think, think, no… google, google)

This was informative:
http://www.serve.com/hecht/origami/diags/gettri.pdf

Your sled with some blocks taped to it should get you there.

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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Gary

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#5 posted 05-08-2010 10:10 PM

Steve, your idea is close but NOT really something you can use on your sled.
Your sled!
The two best options are either a dedicated sled for each angle OR a sled with a replaceable insert
wherein you can swap out the angle by swapping out the insert.

Check with LJ Darryl Masterson, he’s got it perfected. ;-)

Cheers,
Gary

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richgreer

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#6 posted 05-08-2010 10:24 PM

What am I missing? – It seems like you set your miter gauge to 30 degrees and make a cut. You flip the board over and make a second cut. Violé – you have an equilateral triangle. Want an isosceles triangle – change the miter angle.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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Stevinmarin

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#7 posted 05-08-2010 11:14 PM

Rich, you are absolutely right. I think I am overthinking this. I guess my problem lies in my miter guage that is really cheap and crappy and the degree markings are not all that accurate. When I set it up and run my tests on the triangles, they are never accurate. I suppose just buying a good miter guage would save me a lot of trouble!

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Dark_Lightning

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#8 posted 05-08-2010 11:46 PM

If you want a closer angle, go to someplace like Office Depot and get a drafting triangle. There are some fairly large ones- I have a 10” X 10” (on the legs) 45-45-90 triangle, and a 30-60-90 that has one side over 12” long. You can calibrate your miter gauge with it.

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richgreer

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#9 posted 05-08-2010 11:52 PM

Even with a bad miter, you are going to get an isosceles triangle since you would not change the miter setting between the first and second cut. The challenge is getting exactly 30 degrees for an equilateral triangle.

There are ways to measure the angle of your miter without using the scale on the miter gauge.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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Eli

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#10 posted 05-09-2010 12:49 AM

Why not make a pattern and flush cut?

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rance

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#11 posted 05-09-2010 02:19 AM

Steve, Buy an Incra 1000SE, set it up on your saw, and you’ll wonder why you waited so long. Other brands would work, but that’s the one I got. Of course that kinda goes against your mantra(as I see it). I watch your videos and see what you come up with given the substandard tools you use, and I’m inspired. Keep up the good work.

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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poroskywood

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#12 posted 05-09-2010 03:38 AM

Steve, I just got the Incra 1000SE and rance is right….PERFECTION!
Also I’ve been suggesting the Club technique lately….where you beat the wood into the shape you are looking for.

-- There's many a slip betwixt a cup and a lip.--Scott

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Stevinmarin

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#13 posted 05-09-2010 04:49 AM

Dude, count me as a charter member in your club club! My dad used to always say: “If it don’t fit, get a bigger hammer!”

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John Gray

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#14 posted 05-09-2010 04:54 AM

Great minds…................................... 8-))

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Mark Whitsitt

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#15 posted 05-09-2010 04:59 AM

Richgreer beat me to it, but I always find it a bit easier to visualize this sort of thing, so I quickly drew this up in Visio…

Note, that the second cut is first flipped along the vertical axis, and then rotated 60 degrees clockwise.

The third cut determines the overall dimensions of the equilateral triangle as defined by the distance “n”.

If you’re paying attention, and very, very careful with measuring, you can get 4 identical equilateral triangles with only two more cuts… you figure it out 8^)

Now, an equilateral triangle is a special case of an isosceles triangle. this means you can use the same technique for any isosceles triangle, whether acute or obtuse; just change your miter angle and final cut dimension.

Other types of triangles would take more complex cuts…

Cheers!
Mark

-- -- "there are many good reasons to use old hand tools, but moral superiority is NOT one of them..."

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Stevinmarin

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#16 posted 05-09-2010 05:10 AM

Mark! You are the Man! Thanks!

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