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What tool is this?

by Jordan
posted 04-24-2010 04:32 AM


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lew

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#1 posted 04-24-2010 04:34 AM

Looks like a radial arm with a dado blade attached. If that’s the case, you could certainly use a regular blade.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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Jordan

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#2 posted 04-24-2010 04:36 AM

Thank you Lew, what is a dado blade? (used for)

-- http://www.jordanstraker.com

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donjoe

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#3 posted 04-24-2010 04:36 AM

I agree, thats what it looks like.

-- Donnie-- listen to the wood.

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patron

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#4 posted 04-24-2010 04:56 AM

that is definitely a radial arm saw ,
the dado blades are used to make groves .
how many blades together determines how wide the grove is .
you can take those blades off ,
and put on a regular blade for cross cuts .
how big a blade is determined buy the guard ,
( not shown ) ,
read the model# and the make ,
i’m sure someone can get all the info on that saw for you .
looks like an old dewalt .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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NBeener

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#5 posted 04-24-2010 04:58 AM

... and … if David’s right … I understand that old DeWalt RAS’s are VERY cool :-)

You done good!

-- -- Neil

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George Barreras

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#6 posted 04-24-2010 05:01 AM

Very nice find. If you don’t like it just ship out to me:)

-- Nubs,Reserve

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bigike

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#7 posted 04-24-2010 05:05 AM

you can ship the saw to me and i’ll tell ya everything lew just told ya. I can use one of those saws. LOL ;)

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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Dark_Lightning

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#8 posted 04-24-2010 05:07 AM

Jordan, ignorance is OK, it can be fixed by asking questions, as you did. Stupid, in contrast, can’t be fixed. As has been stated, this is a radial arm saw. I would ask that you pull the saw head all the way towards you, and try to pull it left and right (doesn’t have to be turned on). If you get some sideways movement, do what I did and recycle it for the metal. It won’t make square cuts if it’s worn out. You’ll be way better off with a table saw and sleds.

Yes, my father’s old ‘60s RAS got recycled due to slop when fully extended- I do much higher precision work than lopping off studs for building a house. But I saved the table frame for my new birch workbench top, since that table frame was so solid.

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revieck

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#9 posted 04-24-2010 05:09 AM

Looks like a stacked dado blade on the radial arm saw. A stacked dado blade can be adjusted for cutting various widths of grooves. Dados will cut,lets say,a 3/4in. wide by 1/4in. deep groove in the side of your panel for glueing your book shelf into. |

-- Some minds are like concrete - thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.

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KnotWright

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#10 posted 04-24-2010 05:14 AM

Jordan, it is indeed a radial arm saw and since it sounds like you’ve never operated one before, be EXTREMELY careful using it. First see if you can find the blade guard in the garage. Next read up on proper use of them. Want you to be safe in the workshop :-)

-- James

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revieck

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#11 posted 04-24-2010 05:16 AM

Yes, you can take the dado blade off and use a single blade. I change them all the time on my radial arm.

-- Some minds are like concrete - thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.

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donjoe

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#12 posted 04-24-2010 05:19 AM

I’m not real sure but look closely at the back of the motor slider and it looks like the word CRAFTSMAN printed on it.

-- Donnie-- listen to the wood.

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patron

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#13 posted 04-24-2010 05:24 AM

donjoe wins tonight ,
i just zoomed it ,
craftsman !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Jack Barnhill

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#14 posted 04-24-2010 05:35 AM

If you change the blade, make sure you get one that is made for a radial arm saw. Throwing a table saw blade on there could cause serious problems.

-- Best regards, Jack -- I may not be good, but I'm slow -- www.BarnhillWoodworks.com

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Brandon Hintz

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#15 posted 04-24-2010 05:40 AM

Based on the picture it looks like a Craftsman Radial Arm Saw, Model 113.29410 from the late 60’s or early 70’s

-- Potential is limited only by imagination

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Dennisgrosen

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#16 posted 04-24-2010 06:12 AM

Jordan I´m with KnotWright be exstreme careful they are indeed dangerus to opperate
and for goodness sake find that bladegard or by one before you try it.
read all you can on how to opperate this kind of saw before using it.
and if there is no sloop in it you are lucky becourse it can nearly make all kinds
of cut you want except curved cutting, that´s a job for the bandsaw
good luck with it if you deside to use the saw

Dennis

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Jordan

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#17 posted 04-24-2010 07:03 AM

Hey you guys, thanks so much for all of the info – before I moved to this city, the home owner told me there was an old saw in the garage – and since I’ve always wanted a radial arm saw, in my mind I said “If the saw is a radial arm saw, then moving is good omen. Then when I saw it and the unfamiliar blade, I figured it was half an omen – but now you’ve confirmed that this was a good move for us. You guys are super!!!!!

-- http://www.jordanstraker.com

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Sawdust2

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#18 posted 04-24-2010 07:13 AM

It is an old Craftsman RAS.
However, there was a recall on the motors about 7-8 years ago.
I know. I had one.

Lee

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.

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watcher

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#19 posted 04-24-2010 08:49 AM

hey jordan those dado blades are pretty expensive if you dont figure out how to use them you can always list them on ebay and get enough to buy a nice new saw blade for that radal arm saw but really you got pretty lucky getting that saw and that set of dado blades very nice find there !

-- in wood working there is no need for perfection as inperfections just go to show that the project was done by hand with love and care

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Stoneturner

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#20 posted 04-24-2010 11:11 AM

Jordan, This is a Craftsman Radial arm saw. It is just like the one that I used to own. In order to change the blade it came with two tools. They are thin, about 1/4”. One looks like a fork with two tangs. It goes between the saw blade and the motor casting. The saw’s shaft is round but is milled to create a flat sport on both sides of the circle. This provides the flat surface needed for the wrench to slide over the shaft and hold it from turning. The other wrench fits over the outside nut so that you can loosen it and screw it off. If you google Craftsman which is sold by Sears you can download the instruction manual.

There is a way to remove all play from the radial arm so please don’t junk it. It is a great saw and you can do marvelous things with it. I have even made a bowl with it. It is all explained in the instruction manual which you can down load from the internet.

If you have additional questions pleasle contact me at arthurwhitt@gmail.com

-- Wood Turning is communicating with the wood silently.

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canadianchips

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#21 posted 04-24-2010 02:27 PM

It does say craftsman on the head. If you plan on using this you need to put a “fence ” at the back of the table. Something to rest your material against when you pull the saw head through to make your cut. The fence needs to be 90 degrees to the cutting head. There are many adjustments to make to have satisfactory cuts. “Especially for cutting dados”, those blades are used for that cut.
SETUP, SQUARE,ALIGN-make the cut.
I compare my Radial arm saw to an older Harley Davidson motorcycle—if you want to tinker and tune it every time you use it great, if you want to just ride—-buy japanese !
All the bikes will get you there, the one riding the Harley is “COOL”

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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Karson

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#22 posted 04-24-2010 02:41 PM

Looks like someone went wild with some gold paint. Even the wall.

Those tools are made with adjustments built in to make them tight. So they can be adjusted to cut straight and true.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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JAGWAH

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#23 posted 04-24-2010 03:30 PM

Jordan, as a newbie to RAS please take your time getting to know this machine. The blade rotates at you therefore it will grab and run forward if not under full control. The blade guard is missing due to the dado blade being on, please put it back on when you go to a single blade.

Always always always look to where your thumb is during a cut. Many a person has cut their thumbs off due to having it in the way of the blade while pushing the stock firmly to the fence.

If it hasn’t been noted, the other side of this motor may have a collet or option for a collet to use router bits. While radials vary in use-value from craftsman to craftsman I have found them very handy. The overhead tilt factor was very valuable for me years ago when I had a bunch of cypress shutters to build.

-- ~Just A Guy With A Hammer~

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Walt M.

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#24 posted 04-24-2010 09:41 PM

Jordon read what JAGWAH said if you do nothing else he said it all. You got a very nice machine there .

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JimDaddyO

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#25 posted 04-25-2010 03:29 PM

I believe that you cannot use “regular” saw blades on any RAS. A RAS needs a blade with a different pitch angel on the teeth in order for it to work safely. Otherwise the tendency for the blade to run toward you is increased.

-- I still have all my fingers

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Thos. Angle

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#26 posted 04-25-2010 03:42 PM

Someone needs to mention that you need to put on a table top and square in a fence to the blade. Oh, somebody just did. Get a reprint of the operators manual and it will show you everything you need. Then come back here with the rest of your questions. LOL Good luck, Jordan.

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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patron

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#27 posted 04-25-2010 03:57 PM

jordan here is some help ,
there are additions further down ,
from me and bicofluer ,
hope this helps .
http://lumberjocks.com/projects/21465

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Jordan

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#28 posted 04-25-2010 04:20 PM

Wow David – that’s great – and sooo many clamps!!!! Nice working place you have there.

Karson – believe it or not, the gold was the original paint – the wall behind isn’t gold although it looks like it in the photo.

-- http://www.jordanstraker.com

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oldwolf

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#29 posted 04-25-2010 05:50 PM

I have to agree with everything JAGWAH said, In my non workshop life I work in an operating room assisting with orthopedic surgery, I have helped clean up the aftermath of saw injuries more times than I could count. It has never deterred me from being a woodworker, but it has always made me very conscious, and maybe a little hyper paranoid of what can happen. That being said, as careful as I am, my father in law’s radial arm saw (he has no blade guard) has been my only near miss in a decade of woodworking. the wood jumped and I bounced my hand off the side of a moving blade, all I got was a small scratch on my finger, but holy crap anyway. I will never own a radial because of that experience, not that my other tools can’t bite as well, but radials and band saws make up the majority of the unplanned amputations I see.

So please, please be careful and safe.

-- Oldwolf - http://insidetheworkshop.blogspot.com/

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JAGWAH

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#30 posted 04-25-2010 10:30 PM

Radials have given me some of my most harrowing experiences but it’s my tablesaw that gets me every time. Usually it’s just kick backs for which I wear a leather apron, I’m tired of big belly bruises. Three days ago I got hit in the forearm from a sharply mitered end of a piece of spalted maple I was ripping. I had just removed my splitter for another job and failed to put it back. I used a push stick but it still kicked back and sliced my forearm open to the tune of 8 stitches.

Even the best of us being as careful as we can be will still manage to find a way to wack ourselves. A radial just always seemed a bit more meaner.

-- ~Just A Guy With A Hammer~

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SCOTSMAN

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#31 posted 04-25-2010 10:34 PM

If you are going to use it as a standard ras then make a blade guard Please/Have fun Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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popmandude

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#32 posted 04-26-2010 02:54 AM

Jordan
Hi. Great saw. Google Mr. sawdust, spend the money to buy this book. Set up, and safety are important on these saws. Some folks don’t realize how versatile these saws are. The mr. sawdust book is worth its weight in gold.
Good Luck
Randy

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interpim

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#33 posted 04-26-2010 03:00 AM

I got $100 for shipping the motor back on that same model RAS… the rest of it is still in my garage awaiting movement to the dump.

-- San Diego, CA

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Pimzedd

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#34 posted 04-26-2010 04:44 AM

Don’t let your thumb on the hand holding the stock get in line with the blade. Had a student cut the end of his thumb off while making multiple cuts with a stop block on a radial arm saw.

Like others have said, get the guard for the top of the blade or make one. There may have been some type of a sliding or pivoting guard for the lower part of the blade as well. Those who owned one can tell you

If you have never operated one, it would be a good idea to get someone who has to help you get it set up and learn to operate it correctly.

-- Bill - Mesquite, TX --- "Everything with a power cord eventually winds up in the trash.” John Sarge , timber framer and blacksmith instructor at Tillers International school

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DaveMiller

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#35 posted 04-27-2010 05:20 PM

Scariest tool in my workshop is a RAS. I once turned the blade to rip a short piece of 1×4. It’s still sticking out of the hole in the drywall to remind me of how dangerous that tool can be.

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