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help with wood idenifacation

by grizzman
posted 04-23-2010 05:33 AM


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Rick Dennington

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#1 posted 04-23-2010 05:39 AM

Greetings grizz:........ Well…. I don’t know for sure, but it kinda looks like purpleheart….can’t tell. Did you put some kind of stain on it? Could possibly be bloodwood, but again I can’t be sure. But then it looks too red for purpleheart…. just not sure….

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#2 posted 04-23-2010 05:42 AM

i just put paint thinner on it to bring out the color…its not purple heart…and i dont think its mahogany…keep guessing…lol

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#3 posted 04-23-2010 05:55 AM

There is African mahogany that is a little darker than the Central American and South America Mahogany. They are quite a bit yellower or oranger.

I’ll try and post a picture of some samples of the two species that I have. There is also Sapele from Africia that is also though of as Mahogany like. I’ll try and post all three species.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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#4 posted 04-23-2010 05:59 AM

could it be blood wood karson..the grain is pretty straight..and its awfully red…but i will see what you post…you feeling ok now…i tried to call ya twice…hope your doing ok…thanks for any help…grizz

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#5 posted 04-23-2010 06:03 AM

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#6 posted 04-23-2010 06:14 AM

well this i know…its darn pretty…and ive got 2 pieces that are 1 1/2 by 3 by 5and a half feet long…....and one of the boards says Malaysia on it….maybe i need to look to see what comes out of there…but anyone else , lets keep trying…thanks

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#7 posted 04-23-2010 06:21 AM

Grizz lives in a rainforest.

Where HE lives, it RAINS cool wood !!!

-- -- Neil

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#8 posted 04-23-2010 06:26 AM

i think jim helped me find it…it looks just like benge…i looked at the hobbit house…and its a dead ringer if you aske me….look at it karson and see what you think…thanks jim…you saved the day…i was going to make a cutting board from it…when i thought it was mahogany …i think ill hold off and use this for better purpose…thanks folks…

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#9 posted 04-23-2010 06:27 AM

glad it helped grizz

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#10 posted 04-23-2010 06:53 AM

well im not sure now..i thought it was benge..but its also called shedua and when i look at it..its not what ive got…ahhhhhhhhhh..jim help me out here…what do you think…

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#11 posted 04-23-2010 07:39 AM

i dont know autumn..its grain is pretty straight…and the end looks diffrent then the jotoba…im to tired to keep looking tonight…im getting bug eyed looking at this wood anymore tonight…if we dont solve it..im just going to treat it like a rare wood…cus it is to me…so im going to use it for inlays and the likes…

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#12 posted 04-23-2010 08:59 AM

Hmm, my first thought was that it looked a lot like some sipo I have, but maybe not so much. I’d say you have the right idea, though: when in doubt, treat it like gold. :)

-- I hate finishing. I never manage to quit while I'm ahead. --Chris

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#13 posted 04-23-2010 10:20 AM

Make a bread board out of it, can’t go wrong, wait where did you find it? In the forest, well then it’s forest wood, dang shoulda known that right off, theres your answer, Bob, it’s forest wood.

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#14 posted 04-23-2010 12:24 PM

You say one of the boards says Malaysia on it…any chance it’s Red Meranti?

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#15 posted 04-23-2010 12:50 PM

I’m going to guess Kempas or Red Meranti.

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#16 posted 04-23-2010 01:42 PM

Look alot like African Mahogany. The color and grain are right. Did you plane it before the putting the thinner on it? English brown oak has a similar appearance.

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#17 posted 04-23-2010 01:48 PM

Looks like ipe to me.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#18 posted 04-23-2010 01:49 PM

Wood on a plate?
Must be dinner wood.

If that is a plastic plate, well then it must be picnic wood.

Can you cut it with a fork? If so it’s tender wood.

-- Safety first because someone needs you.

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#19 posted 04-23-2010 04:39 PM

darkens from a tan/salmon color to a deep, reddish brown and is 228% as hard as domestic Red Oak. On the Janka Hardness scale, Brazilian Cherry ranks 2820 vs. 1260 for Red Oak.
Brazilian Cherry is an extremely heavy wood; hard to cut, variable heartwood regarding color, from light brown to pink, to reddish brown, with some intense shadowing. Thick sapwood, notably differentiated, white slightly yellowed, uniform medium texture, regular to irregular grain of wood, rough and of poor shine surface; imperceptible scent and taste.

I wouldn’t swear to it Grizz… but that looks like the Brazilian Cherry that I used in some of my projects, it sands well and you can get a nice finish on it.

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#20 posted 04-23-2010 07:21 PM

I think agree with Woodmight and Autumn.. Jatoba (Brazillian Cherry) I am partially color blind.. but color educated (thanks to art school) and I have a ton of wood samples. I identify most wood, but grain texture and cell structure (as well as smell and feel, but that can’t happen on-line). Benge (or shedua) is an incredible green that even I can see. Ipe, tend to have a much more pronounced interlocking grain… more like mahogany, and tends to the browner shade of red and has a very very distinct smell. As far as I know Jatoba has that distinct pattern lines of a thin very light line of early next to a very dark line of late wood mixed with obvious open vessel tracheid cells seen on the end grain (are there tiny traversing parenchyma cells?).. i think the color is dead on (but like I said.. I am color challenged) I so far vote for Jatoba.

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#21 posted 04-23-2010 09:19 PM

after looking it up and looking at some close up picture’s i think its the Red Meranti.one piece has the word Malaysia written on it..i think it was part of a box or crate that came from there..i got these pieces from a old friend who gave me his whole collection of wood he had acquired..he later passed away and ive had this along with the rest of the wood he gave me in a small building that use to be a carriage house…i have just had the wood moved to my covered area at the end of my shop, where its much closer and safer from bugs…as i lost some of the wood to either ants or termites…i was quite sad over the loss of the wood…, but these two were special and they are in good shape…thanks for all your help…im going to use this as accent pieces and special projects…thanks jocks…

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#22 posted 04-23-2010 09:36 PM

there are probably many names for it, but I’d bet my hat that’s kwila. just because I have a classmate building a chair out of it. if it kinda looks like mahogany, but is a bit harder and heavier.
it can range it colour from dark like coffee to about cherry.
just look up kwila, and compare to what you have.

-- Junior -Quality is never an accident-it is the reward for the effort involved.

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#23 posted 04-23-2010 10:49 PM

junior joiner…your dead on…..that is it…a ringer…...yea haw….im really happy to know for sure now..there are other woods that sort look like it..but…but this is it…thanks so much…this is what i love about jocks…someone in our family of wood workers will know…...well , you have moved to the near top of the list when it comes time to the grizzman doling out dances in his red dress…..just dont step on my toes please…lol…...thanks a bunch…grizzman…....its kwila hear that everyone..

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#24 posted 04-24-2010 06:38 PM

Ah ha.. I never knew about Kwila.. now I know too much. That explains the lighter spots in the grain.. Kwila has flecks of golden residual deposits in the grain… Hold on to that stuff. If you haven’t researched it yet. The species is going extinct due to over harvesting for out door furniture and decking and it not farmed or controlled yet like Ipe now is … and the medical uses are interesting. Thanks for the post.. I have to find some for my collection. I LOVE stuff like this.

-- " 'Truth' is like a beautiful flower, unique to each plant and to the season it blossoms ... 'Fact' is the root and leaf, allowing the plant grow and bloom again."

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#25 posted 04-26-2010 02:37 AM

I agree with some of the people who said it is Jatoba. I haven’t used it for furniture yet.
It is sure nice to see how many people are willing to help here at Lumberjocks. I enjoyed reading the discussion.

Glen

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#26 posted 04-26-2010 04:05 AM

i’d lean towards santos mahogany, not sure what its other name is off hand. i know it has another semi common name. but the color looks close and the end grain looks right

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#27 posted 04-26-2010 05:26 AM

hey jocks..i have identified this wood as kwila…its a exotic from malaysia…i picture id this…if you want google it and look at it… i have…its exactly what i have…its not mahogany or jatoab…thanks for your help…grizz

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#28 posted 04-27-2010 05:07 PM

,, well,,,,I think you guys just answered one of my questions I have had for a long time on these pieces of wood I have in the barn [storage] for a later project,, I picked up a pretty good amount of what if memorie serves me looks exactly like that,,

I tryed to mill it once tinking it was pretty wood, and never made anything out of it because I wasnt sure what it was,, I believe mine came from a crate as well, as the size is similar,, but I am quite lucky I have some pieces that are 6 feet long,, now to decide on a project,, thanlks for the round about help on the ID,,I will try to get a pic and show you guys, pat

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#29 posted 04-27-2010 05:13 PM

As a wood chuck I was admiring the fact it was
on a plate!!
Could you salt and pepper that for me? hahahahaha!

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#30 posted 04-27-2010 06:11 PM

Looks like jatoba to me as well; somewhat open grain, machines/sands easily? Burns if machined too slowly?

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#31 posted 04-28-2010 06:11 PM

Hey Grizz. I was going to suggest you plant it and see what grows, but ok you’re happy now that it’s Kwila. That must be what I had a hunk of. It looks almost like Mahogany, but just a little more brown colored?

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#32 posted 04-28-2010 06:38 PM

i say IPE

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