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Cat urine on wooden hand planes. Ug!

by Holbs
posted 04-30-2017 09:11 PM


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joandust

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#1 posted 04-30-2017 09:21 PM

Jesus I hate when this happens to me (cats seem to love my tool bags especially). I think there would be no problem at all with the anti-urine enzyme fluid but I’ve had success for years with only hot water and soap, plus they are the most neutral thing you can do to any sort of tool (as in it won’t damage anything). Give the soap a try first in my opinion, it should be enough. Good luck Holbs!

-- Joan

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Bill White

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#2 posted 04-30-2017 09:28 PM

Kill the cats. Planes are too valuable.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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jbay

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#3 posted 04-30-2017 09:33 PM

Your just going to have to use the piss out of them…. :)

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Kazooman

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#4 posted 04-30-2017 09:35 PM

Oh man! Who would have ever thought you would need to post such a question on the Forum?

I would add some to Joan’s advice. I would pick the one that is least precious to you for experimentation. Start with a quick mild soap and water wipe to see if that does the trick. Escalate as necessary up to trying the enzyme solution. That will give you an idea of what bad things might happen to the rest.

There are several species of wood that are notorious for having a foul smell when you work with them. Perhaps that could become your special niche.

I can’t close without relating a story that happened to me. I was on vacation in Sicily and stepped out of a cab in Palermo. My baseball cap that was on my lap fell into a puddle. I picked it up and felt that it was not too wet, so I put it on my head. I then noticed something was wrong and smelled my fingers. The “puddle” was in the spot where the horse-drawn carriages wait for their customers. Yikes! I now had horse urine on my hat, in my hair, on my hand, and, unfortunately, when I smelled my hand I touched my nose, so I had the odor nonstop. Fortunately we were returning and were just a block from our hotel. I have never spent so much time in the shower! I get a big laugh out of it whenever I recall the day. Hopefully that will be the case for your handplanes. Let us know what eventially works for you.

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Holbs

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#5 posted 04-30-2017 09:53 PM

Kitty Shisk-a-bobs are not an option :) Ok..I’ll try mild soap and hot water at first. If that doesn’t help with the urine crystals and smells, they are doomed anyways so will then try the cat urine enzymes I’ve had luck with for household accidents.

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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HorizontalMike

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#6 posted 04-30-2017 10:32 PM

Geez… at least this has/did NOT have anything to do with/about all that kat piss on my:
  • Shop doors
  • Ash Blanket Chest
  • My +100yr old Sideboard/bar
  • My 6-board Chest
  • Several of my windows next to benches and such
  • My doors, either IN or OUT-side SIDE, depends on kat’s mood…!
  • And last but not least, just after I got out of the Navy(1975-ish), moved back home, set up a new home with my then new PI wife, the the the… new ~6-8wk old kat wakes me up by pissing on my FACE at ~5:30am seeking attention. DAemmm!!!... he got my attention, boy did he!... Erg…!... ... Yeah the kat lived BUTT, BUTT, butt, butt, ...!!!!

THAT said… It COULD be WORSE.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Holbs

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#7 posted 04-30-2017 10:47 PM

No LJ BBQ at Mike’s house! :) I am unsure why whatever cat did this, went right to my wooden planes. They did come from various auctions. Maybe cats love wood working more than I knew, and that is the only way they can communicate their love via kat piss? :)

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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HorizontalMike

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#8 posted 04-30-2017 10:52 PM



No LJ BBQ at Mike s house! :) I am unsure why whatever cat did this, went right to my wooden planes. They did come from various auctions. Maybe cats love wood working more than I knew, and that is the only way they can communicate their love via kat piss? :)
- Holbs

After all they DO smell each other’s azz… Nuff’ said…

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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EricTwice

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#9 posted 04-30-2017 10:56 PM

I don’t think the enzymes will help the cat, but I hear the Chinese have a couple of good cat recipes.

Oh, you mean to fix your planes. I would hesitate soaking them in water, I’ve had bad luck with that sort of thing. But immersing them for a short dip would be OK. Chlorine bleach works too

I would go with a short dip in anti-urine/bleach/etc and then wash in soap and water. wipe dry let sit a couple of hours and coat with linseed oil and wax. (coat the blades same as the wood, it won’t hurt a thing.)

-- nice recovery, They should pay extra for that mistake, Eric E.

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Holbs

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#10 posted 04-30-2017 11:01 PM

Eric.. I know chlorine has no desired affect upon cat urine crystals. Enzymes have been a proven method for carpet or spots. I’ll do the hot soap and water trick. If that doesn’t pan out, a quick dip in anti-urine-enzyme. If that doesn’t work…well… I’ll put a yellow dot sticker on them to signal last ditch effort plane :)

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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Rrrandy

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#11 posted 04-30-2017 11:04 PM


I don t think the enzymes will help the cat, but I hear the Chinese have a couple of good cat recipes.

Oh, you mean to fix your planes. I would hesitate soaking them in water, I ve had bad luck with that sort of thing. But immersing them for a short dip would be OK. Chlorine bleach works too

- EricTwice


Eric, what kind of bad luck can come from soaking them in water? Although, I guess they could scratch and bite you pretty bad…

-- Y'all need to locate a sense of humor. Borrow one if you can't find yours...

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FarmerintheWoods

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#12 posted 04-30-2017 11:07 PM

I have done many experiments with urine problems, with two complete successes.

First success: Bought an old mansion as a fixer-upper, with an appropriate discount, only to find that there was a good reason for an air freshener in every downstairs outlet. Urine. Removed all the carpeting and left it rolled at the side of the street. This removed the urine odor, and carpet smugglers arrived overnight to remove the carpeting itself, without leaving a trace.

The real urine problem was upstairs. The house had only one bathroom, and at the other end of the hall was a small bedroom. Those who could not wait for the bathroom used the bedroom. Wood floor, no carpet. Horrifying stench. I got raw linseed oil (not thinned either) and a paint roller, and painted the entire floor, over and over, until it wouldn’t soak in anymore. Then I opened the windows, closed the door, and waited for two weeks. Went back in, odor is cured 100%. Worked regardless of season, heat or humidity, for 8 years.

Second success: There was a time when I did a fair amount of international travel, and I lived alone with a cat. We were close buds, but he resented being left alone and the first thing he did when I came back was urinate in/on my luggage. This made the luggage not useful. However, it occurred to me that the entire planet would smell like cat urine everywhere and forever, unless there was a natural process involved.

Gotta be microbes, right? That was the idea. So I dug a hole in the ground, deep enough to bury my backpack, and a bit more. Then I filled the backpack and all its pockets with dirt. Then I covered the whole thing with dirt and hosed it down with water.

Dug it up a week later, removed the dirt, hosed it down, and all trace of cat urine odor was gone. I had no problem using the backpack after that, but I was also careful to keep it away from the cat.

So I’d say, there are two options: complete soak in raw linseed oil, or resting in mud for a week.

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Holbs

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#13 posted 04-30-2017 11:09 PM

raw linseed oil, never thought of that. No harm came to your wood flooring?

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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TheFridge

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#14 posted 04-30-2017 11:18 PM

Jealous of your molding planes

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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FarmerintheWoods

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#15 posted 05-01-2017 12:17 PM

It darkened the wood flooring considerably. Parts of the floor that that were most often used for temporary relief turned completely black. Other that, there was no change.

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Carloz

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#16 posted 05-01-2017 12:31 PM

Sell the planes to wives who are fed up with their husbands’ money and time waste and would like to put a stop on it.

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#17 posted 05-01-2017 01:14 PM

Id let them dry out for a while then wash and clean real good with vinegar. It will kill any germs and hopefully kill/mask the smell. Might even wipe with diluted bleach after that.

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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rwe2156

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#18 posted 05-01-2017 03:31 PM

Good luck if its an un neutered Tom cat (how do I know that)?

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#19 posted 05-01-2017 03:42 PM

Wash in hot water and soap. Dry with a hair dryer and oil to prevent rust. Buy 10-22 and practice, practice, practice!

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bridgerberdel

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#20 posted 05-03-2017 06:46 AM

White vinegar in a spray bottle. Take the blades out and set them aside, spray down the wood parts, wipe it down, let it dry.

-- occasional musings on my blog: www.bridgerberdel.wordpress.com

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#21 posted 05-03-2017 12:38 PM

My cat urinated on my Gibson J200 used enzymes and then teak oil. It was the fret board luckly. Worked well. You want to keep them off of your tools? rub a little peppermint oil on them or clove oil on them they hate that stuff. I have a sock stuffed with Eugenol soaked wood chips near all the doors to the shop. My wife’s cats don’t come near the place my dogs neither.

-- Illigitimii non carburundum sum

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mrg

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#22 posted 05-03-2017 12:51 PM

My cat urinated on my Gibson J200 used enzymes and then teak oil. It was the fret board luckly. Worked well. You want to keep them off of your tools? rub a little peppermint oil on them or clove oil on them they hate that stuff. I have a sock stuffed with Eugenol soaked wood chips near all the doors to the shop. My wife s cats don t come near the place my dogs neither.

- pontic

Lots of cats love mint and clove. Catnip is a form of mint. My cat goes insane for mint and clove but dislikes catnip.

Clean with the enzymes, bleach will not get rid of the oder the cat can still smell it. The enzyme neutralizes it. Also if there was any wood shavings around the cat thinks it is safe to use as a litter box.

-- mrg

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#23 posted 05-03-2017 05:44 PM


My cat urinated on my Gibson J200 used enzymes and then teak oil. It was the fret board luckly. Worked well. You want to keep them off of your tools? rub a little peppermint oil on them or clove oil on them they hate that stuff. I have a sock stuffed with Eugenol soaked wood chips near all the doors to the shop. My wife s cats don t come near the place my dogs neither.

- pontic

Lots of cats love mint and clove. Catnip is a form of mint. My cat goes insane for mint and clove but dislikes catnip.

Clean with the enzymes, bleach will not get rid of the oder the cat can still smell it. The enzyme neutralizes it. Also if there was any wood shavings around the cat thinks it is safe to use as a litter box.

- mrg

Don’t doubt you but why does it work for my cats?

-- Illigitimii non carburundum sum

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LDO2802

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#24 posted 05-03-2017 05:55 PM



Kill the cats. Planes are too valuable.
Bill

- Bill White

Use the cats to test your planes. LOL

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patcollins

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#25 posted 05-03-2017 09:33 PM



Geez… at least this has/did NOT have anything to do with/about all that kat piss on my: Shop doors Ash Blanket Chest My +100yr old Sideboard/bar My 6-board Chest Several of my windows next to benches and such My doors, either IN or OUT-side SIDE, depends on kat s mood…! ** And last but not least, just after I got out of the Navy(1975-ish), moved back home, set up a new home with my then new PI wife, the the the… new ~6-8wk old kat wakes me up by pissing on my FACE at ~5:30am seeking attention. DAemmm!!!... he got my attention, boy did he!... Erg…!... ... Yeah the kat lived BUTT, BUTT, butt, butt, ...!!!!

THAT said… It COULD be WORSE.

- HorizontalMike

I’ve always though for things like this you should wait until the cat is comfy, sleeping and wake it up by pissing on it, might learn that isn’t so nice.

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joandust

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#26 posted 05-03-2017 09:41 PM


Geez… at least this has/did NOT have anything to do with/about all that kat piss on my:
  • Shop doors
  • Ash Blanket Chest
  • My +100yr old Sideboard/bar
  • My 6-board Chest
  • Several of my windows next to benches and such
  • My doors, either IN or OUT-side SIDE, depends on kat s mood…!
  • And last but not least, just after I got out of the Navy(1975-ish), moved back home, set up a new home with my then new PI wife, the the the… new ~6-8wk old kat wakes me up by pissing on my FACE at ~5:30am seeking attention. DAemmm!!!... he got my attention, boy did he!... Erg…!... ... Yeah the kat lived BUTT, BUTT, butt, butt, ...!!!!

THAT said… It COULD be WORSE.

- HorizontalMike

I ve always though for things like this you should wait until the cat is comfy, sleeping and wake it up by pissing on it, might learn that isn t so nice.

- patcollins

This just made my day, hahaha

-- Joan

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FarmerintheWoods

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#27 posted 05-04-2017 06:08 PM

The vinegar method never worked for me. Other commercial products claiming to fix the cat urine problem never worked either. On hardwood, that is.

Once in a while a cat will urinate on a pile of laundry. Vinegar and a couple trips through the wash-dry cycle and it’s good. Hardwood is something else. Probably has to do with porosity. If you can’t wash it out, you gotta seal it in.

As far as enzymes go, that’s what bacteria use to digest everything from crude oil to pesticides to cat urine. There could be some very good enzyme stuff out there recently.

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jbay

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#28 posted 05-04-2017 07:01 PM


Once in a while a cat will urinate on a pile of laundry. Vinegar and a couple trips through the wash-dry cycle and it s good.

- FarmerintheWoods

I tried that but the cat just shook it off, although it did make him very dizzy, plus it gave him the frizzies. :>/

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mrg

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#29 posted 05-04-2017 09:04 PM


Once in a while a cat will urinate on a pile of laundry. Vinegar and a couple trips through the wash-dry cycle and it s good.

- FarmerintheWoods

I tried that but the cat just shook it off, although it did make him very dizzy, plus it gave him the frizzies. :>/

- jbay

That is funny.

-- mrg

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mudflap4869

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#30 posted 05-04-2017 09:28 PM

Soak them in tomato juice, then boil the cat in it. Catsoup! Yeah it’s corny, but I just couldn’t resist.

-- Still trying to master kindling making

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Holbs

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#31 posted 05-04-2017 10:00 PM

I have to learn to resaw (my first attempt) some 4-5” basswood this weekend, possibly start plantation window project…then possibly mathias DIY 20” bandsaw (really need 18” but he only has done 14,16, and 20). Then, I’ll try out the methods to rid of the smell/bacteria/etc off the handplanes. Luckily, only 10 or so out of my so far collection of molding planes.

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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