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What do you Thinkra about Incra?

by Blake
posted 10-19-2007 11:30 PM


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#1 posted 10-19-2007 11:48 PM

Man that full ride TS/Router system is a beaut. I have a funky home-made table that has served me well for its intended purpose (small box work, edge-forming).

routertable

The visible table top rests on a 3/4 plywood “subfloor”
I never use the miter slot, but if I ever redo the melamine top I would put it closer to the bit. I have to put new runners on the vertical positioning jig, as I have chewed into them over the years, but everything works as it stands. If I ever decided to do cabinet work involving dovetails I would probably get a Keller of a Leigh jig, but I don’t do much fine woodworking on a larger scale and would likely to stick to the Kreg jig for the bathroom cabinets and shop tables I see in my future.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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#2 posted 10-20-2007 12:05 AM

How close is the miter slot to the bit? What should it be?

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#3 posted 10-20-2007 12:07 AM

Good question. I think on a do-over I would position it about two inches to the left of the insert. Mostly I just reference to the fence with a sled of scrap behind the workpiece.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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#4 posted 10-20-2007 02:22 AM

I have the Incra Universal Precision Positioning Jig. I’ve tried it a couple of times, but have not had consistent luck with it. I know it’s just that I haven’t mastered the “learning curve” yet and once I do, I think it is a great addition to my shop.

-- Bill - "Suit yourself and let the rest be pleased." http://www.cajunpen.com/

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#5 posted 10-20-2007 02:42 AM

The incra is a great tool – the learning curve is not for the faint of heart though. I enjoyed using it once I figured out most of the bells and whistles. I don’t use it much at all now though. To fussy and I don’t have the patients for a lot of fussy. That said, if you do a lot of intricate joints and want a lot of variety this is a good way to go. I’ve quite a few friends who have boxes made with the incra and I have a side table that I enjoy a lot whose drawer I made with the incra.

-- Like a bad penny, I keep coming back!

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#6 posted 10-20-2007 05:13 AM

Hey Blake. Yeah, I really do like the lift. Of course, I’m coming from a PC698 where you unclamp and twist the little 1HP router up and down to adjust, so nearly anything seems worth it.

Although I bought a fairly high end lift, I do think a lift is worth it. What used to take me quite a long time, and a lot of hand adjustment and lots of trial pieces of scrapwood I feel comfortable doing on the first try.

And a 3HP router is a dream. There really is a huge difference in having a strong router in that table!

I like the Incra stuff. I don’t look down on aluminum stuff. I’ve done some machine work, and I know you can get some crazy good tolerances with precision aluminum.

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#7 posted 10-20-2007 04:47 PM

I was sort of like you Blake. Not so much a snob if you will. Just balked at the price. However, I’ve been reading here and researching miter gauges and have looked at the Incra as well as Kreg. I have a Kreg fence on my bandsaw and I’m very pleased with it.

I’m like Jon3 with regard to the precision you can get. Thanks for the post. This gives me more info to ruminate. Tom and David Pruett have both posted informative blogs/videos on the Incra and Kreg systems.

I’d be interested to hear more about any research you did before ‘plunging’. Nice setup and post by the way.

-- Jeff, St. Paul, MN

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#8 posted 10-30-2007 11:54 PM

I was a snob till I shopped for a quality dovetail jig
Never regreted getting the 25” LS Positioner.
I haven’t found anything negative yet, ( at first the centering and depth of cut setup cuts annoyed me but now it’s just routine, they make a centering gauge but Incra told me it wasn’t as precice)
Woodpecker table, would have made my own but for about $50 more than materials to make my own already made and flat. Also Woodpecker aluminum insert with the interchangeable rings for different bits, really a good feature!
Working on the drawers, fuctional now so I can finish the rest with the setup.
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Got the idea and plans/guide from http://members.toast.net/boatguy/routerstation.htm

First try on a cornerpost double dovetail. It takes a little getting used to the system but if you replay the video while doing it you will catch on. then after that youll get the idea.
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I also bought the project book, it has alot of step by step instructions with pictures and drawings, helps alot getting used to the system, neat little boxes and small items to practice with without using alot of precious wood, but very nice projects.

Some of the projects use the wooden Incra hinge, I’m going to either get the hinge plans and drill guide or the Hingecrafter (on sale at Hartville Tools $59) the plans and drill guide are $12.95. at Woodpeckers.

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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#9 posted 10-31-2007 01:29 AM

I really like that Cabinet/Table!

So what do you use for centering work and depth of cut setup? I have not bought the centering jig yet. Should I?

-- Happy woodworking! http://www.openarmsphotography.com

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#10 posted 10-31-2007 02:06 AM

Hi,
I just do how Incra says in the instructions , a piece of scrap to center then a piece for the depth, then I use that piece for a backing board to eliminate tearout.
I thought the centering jig would save some time/wood but contacted Incra through E-mail and they said they have them but said you get better results from doing the centering cut proceedure so I opted out.
I am going to call them because I was thinking of using one of those centering pins for a router to do it, it seems it would be more accurate than two cuts then eyeballing the center.
Do you have the master template library book and templates? They have the manuals on the Icra site.
I did forget to say that INCRA has the best product support I have ever come across, feel free to call or E-mail them there great!! They even suggest you call because it is easier to answer questions about their products in person.
Mark

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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#11 posted 10-31-2007 03:10 AM

I use an Incra Mitre Express and Mitre 1000SE mitre gauge. I considered an incra router table fence but don’t have the room in my shop for how far they stick out the back. The incra stuff is pretty sweet, for sure.

-- You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. (Plato)

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#12 posted 10-31-2007 03:31 AM

You can always make a fold down extention and remove the jig when not in use!

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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#13 posted 10-31-2007 04:11 AM

I own the Jessem system which is also aluminum extrusions and I have been very happy with it but boy, that setup sure looks sweet.

-- Better to say nothing and be thought the fool... then to speak and erase all doubt!

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#14 posted 10-31-2007 04:36 AM

Blake I’ve got the TS III table system with the router on the right. Like the last picture you posted in the blog.

I use it on the table saw and on the router table. I’ve never used it for dovetails though. I used it for finger joints when I made the hinges for my Joinery Challenge contest entry. using the Incra Hindge Crafter.

I love it. I even put an Incra tube on my sliding table so that I can use the ShopStop for cutting length. I put on a long tube and extension so I can get about 8’ using the Incra tube on the sliding table.

I bought the first TS III that was shipped because i needed a custom size. 44” in depth with a 32” slider. I upgraded it to the LS when it was offered at a discount. So I’ve still got the older slider and I’m thinking about making another router table so that I can have two different bits in at the same time for Stile and Rail cutting. Then maybe I’ll need another for the raised panel.

The only thing that causes a problem is when the jig is set up for the router, then you need to cut a board. So it’s move the jig to make the saw cut and then reset it back to the router. I guess I’ll need to get the second table saw up and running.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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#15 posted 10-31-2007 05:44 AM

Like Chip, I’m in the Jessem camp.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#16 posted 11-02-2007 06:14 PM

I have the Incra Ultra Lite and think it’s great. Even if you don’t use it for dovetails, it allows very precise adjustments, in tiny increments. Plus, it is a local company.

-- If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free! PJ O'Rourke

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#17 posted 11-02-2007 10:33 PM

I have the:

Incra Universal Precision Positioning Jig;
Incra Mitre Gauge;
Incra 5000 Miter Sled with 36” to 64” telescoping cutoff fence;
and several of thier rulers.

Great stuff!

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#18 posted 11-02-2007 11:20 PM

Blake:

Earlier this week, my Incra mitre 300SE arrived….....I decided on it based off of mitre guage reviews done byTom, Wayne, and Dave here in jocks and notes back and forth. It just so happened that Highland had a deal going but I got in late and was back ordered….........NOW my problem: I hate entering new toys into a project, I know I’ll loose focus, so it sitting in the box tempting me. I flipped the box around so I didn’t see that red and gold label.

Oh the torture!!!!

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#19 posted 11-03-2007 01:43 AM

You have just entered a new world. Be brave.

-- Happy woodworking! http://www.openarmsphotography.com

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#20 posted 11-15-2007 07:56 AM

Has anyone used the cheap Incra positioner (they call it the Universal Precision Positioning Jig) that Rockler sells? It seems like if you’re not doing production work, and don’t mind spending a little more time making changeovers than you do with the LS, it’s a great deal at $100 for the positioner and a fence.

Gbvinc, is this the one you have?

-- Nils Davis, Menlo Park, CA

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#21 posted 12-03-2007 07:32 AM

Nils I have the Incra Universal Precision Positioning Jig it came with a package containing a router table and insert from Rockler for $150 if memory serves me correctly. There’s a learning curve but they supply a helpful DVD with it.

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#22 posted 12-03-2007 08:05 AM

I’ve been a anti-Incra snob; I admitt it. Never tried their stuff. But that is probably not a good thing.

I used to be a anit-Windows snob. Stuck with MSDOS 3.0 on one machine for years. Had a boat load of cool software. Waited until Windows 98 to put it on my machine. Probably waited about 2 years too long.

Incra has some facinating looking gadgets. For small fine precision joints it looks like the way to go. Still looking for the good deal on craigslist …

-- keeping myself entertained ... Humor and fun lubricate the brain

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#23 posted 12-04-2007 09:51 PM

Nils, I have been using the ‘cheap’ Incra positioner for a couple of years now. Love it. Probably should upgrade to one of the shiny ones, but so far it is doing what I need it to do.

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#24 posted 12-04-2007 11:05 PM

Blake,

I’m not so much an anti-Incra snob as I am an anti-machine dovetails snob. I do have the Incra 1000SE mitre fence and I love it. I use it both on my table saw and router table. I have a Freud router fence but I do not like it so much despite the fact that it has very fine adjustments. I find that a piece of wood or a wood fence works better as a fence. The incra fence you have ( as is the case for most metal fences) cannot provide a zero clearance cut. I find this to be very usefull. Also, to cut the tenon part of the dovetail silded, I need a tall (6” at least) fence. Most metal fences are not tall enough (Including mine).

The reason (besides cost) that I am not at all tempted by the Incra fence is that it encourages machine joinery vs. hand joinery. Using a machine in the name of saving time is fine but, judging by a demo I saw at Woodcraft, using the Incra fence is not exactly fast. Some 1 1/2 years ago I learned how to cut dovetails by hand and I never looked back. Now, if you look at the cradle I made for my baby girl (http://lumberjocks.com/projects/2887), you would realize how limited the Incra fence is. I cut dovetails at an angle, in 5/16” material, on lage pieces (more than 3ft) of large width (18”). Cutting the dovetail by hand just took longer but was not harder than cutting them on a box. The main reason though is that machine cut dovetails look artificial. I literally place the dovetails by eye (no mesuring). This not only speeds up the process but they look good. Now if you add the fact that the saw and chisel make no noise and need no dust collection system, I think I’m better off without the Incra router fence.

In terms of my router table (and what you should do for the new table you are planning to build) here are it’s features (I’ll post a picture when I get home):

1. The top is made out of two glued pieces of laminated MDF (laminated on both sides). It is very flat and stable. A sheet of laminated MDF is about 35$ at Lowes (or is it Home Depot). I made all kinds of jigs from a single sheet (still have some left).
2. The router plate is a Rousseau plate. It does not flex and it commes with lots of useful things (line a starter pin). I can take out the router with the plate installed and use it as a plunge or fixed router (when I cut sliding dovetails for example on large boards).
3. The fence as I mentioned is Freud. I installed two T-tracks that allow me to put a piece of wood or a wooden fence that fits by bandsaw. Since I can link the dust collector either to the Freud fence or the router encasing, unless I cut molding or rabbets I use a wooden fence.
4. I purchased a variable speed 3 1/4HP router (Hitachi M12-V2) and I installed the Raizer system. I trully reccommend the Raizer (gets the job done very well and it is the cheapest).
5. I installed a miter track about 2” below the router plate (about 6” from the router bit. I do use it together with the Incra 1000SE when I cut dado channels on small pieces.
6. I have a mobile base installed (very useful in a small shop).

Good luck with the new router table,
Alin

-- -- Alin Dobra, Gainesville, Florida

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#25 posted 12-05-2007 01:21 AM

I can’t comment on their fences but my incra miter gauge is right everytime all the time!!

-- Don

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#26 posted 12-05-2007 03:45 AM

Not too long ago I purchased the Miter Express as I hadn’t had any luck making a crosscut sled that I liked. As luck would have it my cheap tablesaw had undersized miter slots and my $300 Red and gold toy was useless. Well we all know how to solve that problem. It works perfectly on my new Ridgid contractor saw. I guess I was really just waiting to buy a new tablesaw. Anyway, so far I have been pleased with both the Miter Express and the saw. The combo has given me a big boost in accuracy and confidence. As space and money allows I’m sure there will be more red and gold in my future.

-- Mike and his helper "Stoli"

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#27 posted 12-05-2007 04:07 AM

I have never seem their fence systems, but hopefully they will be at the woodworking show in Dallas this weekend. I’d like to check them out.

I have their 3000SE miter gauge which I love. The 1/2 degree resolution is great.

Gary

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#28 posted 12-05-2007 06:35 PM

I, too, took the Incra plunge last year. I had an order for triangle frames and my stock miter gauge just did not measure up…LOL pun intended. I ordered an Incra 1000 SE and then ordered their rules. I got the set that does corners, as well as lays out a line parellell to an edge. (A nice feature to lay out resaw lines on stock.) I have always wanted to get the router fence, so I used my profits from a job to order one from Rockler when they had it on sale. I have not used it yet. Too many “home” projects taking my time…LOL

Incra makes very precise measuring and fence products that look o provide years of service. I would be lost, sometimes, without that rule set!

God Bless,
Hawg

-- Saving barnwood from the scrapyards

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#29 posted 12-05-2007 06:36 PM

I, too, took the Incra plunge last year. I had an order for triangle frames and my stock miter gauge just did not measure up…LOL pun intended. I ordered an Incra 1000 SE and then ordered their rules. I got the set that does corners, as well as lays out a line parellell to an edge. (A nice feature to lay out resaw lines on stock.) I have always wanted to get the router fence, so I used my profits from a job to order one from Rockler when they had it on sale. I have not used it yet. Too many “home” projects taking my time…LOL

Incra makes very precise measuring and fence products that look to provide years of service. I would be lost, sometimes, without that rule set!

God Bless,
Hawg

-- Saving barnwood from the scrapyards

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#30 posted 12-06-2007 04:42 AM

Sounds good Hawgnutz.

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#31 posted 12-06-2007 04:42 AM

Sounds good Hawgnutz.

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#32 posted 12-07-2007 05:56 AM

Santa has my wishlist for the Incra Universal Precision Positioning Jig from Rockler, so we’ll see if the big red guy comes through. I also just got a Miter 1000SE but I’ve only made one cut since I started making pens for all the Christmas presents.

To GaryK, make sure to take your checkbook to the show – once you see the LS system in action, you’re going to buy one. I’m lucky in that regard – my little table saw isn’t even supported by their system – phew!

-- Nils Davis, Menlo Park, CA

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#33 posted 12-07-2007 07:55 AM

It’s O K

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#34 posted 12-30-2009 11:34 AM

I just purchased the LS 25 positioner along with the right angle attachment. I am in the process of building a new Router Table which will be the last one I ever build (I hope). I glued 2 sheets of 3/4” melamine, 32×48 and clamped it with straight edges or 5 days. Then I laminated it with a satin formica. Then I started the cabinet which will have 4 drawers, 1 for bits, 3 for accessories. It has a sealed compartment for the router (vented) which has a dust collection port at the bottom as well as one at the fence (optional) and a misc compartment beneath that. I put wheels that don’t lock for now just so I can move this monster around but will put locking wheels eventually. I look forward to the intricate dovetails and more.

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#35 posted 12-30-2009 05:59 PM

I think the Incra is a good choice.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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#36 posted 12-31-2009 02:40 AM

I got my daughter an incra on Amazon about 200 bucks she is making boxes double double box and dovetails I cant imagine trying that by hand

-- lcurrent ( It's not a mistake till you run out of wood )

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#37 posted 12-31-2009 03:07 AM

Incra is the absolute best! If I could afford it, I’d own everything they make. I would have used their lift but it is $100 more than the JessEm and is virtually the same thing. I’m still waiting for the lift. Here’s a few pics of what I have so far…

http://decorativedimensions.com/Router_Table/rtable.html

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#38 posted 12-31-2009 05:05 AM

i’ve been using incra for 10 years now. i bought it for the router table originally. to me it’s the best way to do dovetails (except handcut). i then converted to the tablesaw setup and is set up for both. see my projects to see my setup.

the micro adjuster is awsome for fine adjusting a grove cut or dado cut on the router or TS.

russv

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#39 posted 12-31-2009 05:11 AM

I can’t add a lot from experience in use, but i’ve committed big to Incra based on the universally excellent feedback over many years in test reviews – it wasn’t really an option to get to see it in the flesh here in ireland before buying.

You see it coming up in subtle ways too – in mag articles about people’s work where there’s often that flash of red and gold in the background. Usually an elderly earlier model, so it’s definitely not product placement.

Having come into quite a decent tax refund i set out to upgrade my shop with separate Hammer machines. (panel saw, shaper and planer thicknesser)

The technical feature that sold me was the incremental positioning capability their systems have using the lead screw/rack system – the ability to go straight to a measurement on a saw repeatably without messing around bumping and nudging stuff like you do on typical fences etc. is such a step forward in my view. It’s icing on the cake to take that capability and to use it to accurately pitch joints etc in the joinery system.

I bough a long stroke TS LS system for the panel saw (got a discount for not taking the stock rip fence), and then taking advantage of the discounts they have been running and after being very impressed at the quality of the TS LS a router table and a 25in Joinery System as the basis for a router table, plus a Mitre 1000 SE for the saw and the router table. Not sure if it’s strong enough to use on the spindle moulder. I also got their router table cabinet chassis and wheel set.

As a manufacturing engineer i’m happy to say that i don’t know how they do it at the price. I’m still setting up the shop, so i can’t comment on the stuff in use.

Customer service (efficiency, expertise and friendliness) have also been absolutely remarkable, and more to the point genuine. Mark is such a decent guy, and went so far out of his way to figure out a way to get the stuff to me at reasonable cost.

My experience buying in the US has been generally excellent, but they really were right up there with the likes of Lee Valley who run a really tight operation too – and way ahead based on my experience of another well known name company that cost me a month’s delay.

The only negative i can come up with is that it’s fairly clear that there’ quite a few out there on the trad wing of woodworking that look down their noses at it. Possibly because it doesn’t rust… Not to mention that it’s not the way your grandfather did it. :-) Joke – but I do think actually there’s plenty out there put off by their perceptions (it’s got quite a blingy look) that don’t get as far as looking at it properly.

Which isn’t quite fair, because while i’ve no interest in the sort of showy work it’s capable of it’s clear that it has its own learning curve and is far from being point and click woodworking.

ian

-- Late awakener....

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#40 posted 12-31-2009 05:40 AM

I have the Incra 5000 crosscut sled. If you need to cut really precise lengths, and absolutely dead on square ends this accessory does the job.

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I have also recently purchased Incra’s new V120 miter gauge. I haven’t had a chance to use it yet but it will obviously cut very accurate miters.

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#41 posted 12-31-2009 05:46 AM

That full toot Incra setup is mighty nice. Not particularly adaptable to my BT, but that’s my problem…

I have a V27 miter gauge I got on sale for the router table. It’s pretty nice for a low $$ miter gauge. Could be better. But then again, for Incra, this one is pretty low end too…

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#42 posted 12-31-2009 07:48 AM

I’ve used an Ultra for my router table fence for the last 12 years or so, and it’s predecessor before that. Also have two Incra gauges laying around, that get used daily. One day I’ll build a drill press fence with an original Incra jig.

-- Gerry, http://home.comcast.net/~cncwoodworker/CNC_Woodworker.html

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#43 posted 12-31-2009 07:07 PM

I own the following: Incra Miter EXPRESS (1000SE miter gauge with cross-cut sled) T-rulers, bend-rulers, marking rulers Miter sliders Hold downs

Love them all, very satisfied. Been using them for about 2-years. Well made and accurate.

I’m looking into their TS-LS table saw fence. Most reviews have been positive. Only downside I see is the extra space needed for the positioner clearance.

-- Russ

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#44 posted 01-12-2011 04:19 PM

I have two incra fences, none of them set up yet. I want to set up my LS positioner on a nice big router table. I love the acuracy these fences have plus the fact you can cut the double doubles. I want to try an get rid of my ultra and add a vac system to my LS the one you got on your table i never saw before i’m going to check again on the incra site. If i can’t find a one like yours I’ll just get the wonder fence, I also want to either get a lift or a plate from either incra or jessem.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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#45 posted 01-12-2011 04:45 PM

After going thru a Woodline Dt’er a PC4212 and an Incra Original (all of which worked) I bought a LS-25 with the Wonder Fence. Pricey yes, usefulness…outstanding. Great accurate piece of equipment. Once you go theu the learning curve it’s much better than the others.
I also have other items by Incra and found them to be all they are advertised.
Bottom line,I think Incra products are well worth the money.(no I don’t work for Incra)

-- Life is good.

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#46 posted 01-12-2011 06:07 PM

HMMMMMMMM? Looks like Incra is doin’ a pretty darned good job.
I love my 1000SE.
Bill

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#47 posted 01-12-2011 06:23 PM

I have the Miter Express and 1000SE miter gauge…both are great!

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#48 posted 01-12-2011 07:44 PM

I have the 1000HD Miter and have been using it to cut stretcher tenons and the leg’s dovetails for my workbench build. The 31” x2”x4” Ash legs and 27 1/2” x4” x4” stretchers proved to be a bit MUCH for the Incra IMO. I kept getting flexure in the miter(using the included and featured stop) when trying to push these pieces through the TS. This resulted in variations of ~1/32” (from square) and sometimes more. I know these pieces are rather heavy, but thought the miter would be stiff enough do these 90 degree cuts properly. I even cleaned the TS surface for easier sliding but the drag was still enough to flex the miter. FYI, the miter slider slot adjustments were tight/snug.

I kept blaming myself for lack of technique and made serious attempts to eliminate this flexure but found the experience frustrating. I am an admittedly new comer with limited experience with this miter.

QUESTION:
Am I just overloading the 1000HD miter or what?

*Smaller pieces come out very accurate.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Loren

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#49 posted 01-12-2011 07:56 PM

I have one of the 1st generation table saw fences. It’s a solid fence
and it’s repeatability is really useful at times. The scales fade in the
sunlight.

The main drawback is the amount of room you need for the ‘T’
part of the fence, or a hole in your shop wall.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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live4ever

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#50 posted 01-12-2011 08:10 PM

Mike – where do you think the flexure is occurring? Do you have the arm extended for those cuts? If the arm is out all the way there might be a little bit of give at the bolt holding it in place. A rigid auxiliary fence attaching on both sides of the “skinny” arm might help.

-- Optimists are usually disappointed. Pessimists are either right or pleasantly surprised. I tend to be a disappointed pessimist.

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