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You Can't Have it Both Ways!

by Rhinoc
posted 02-07-2017 06:15 PM


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sawdustdad

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#1 posted 02-07-2017 06:23 PM

Air leaks somewhere.

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Rhino690

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#2 posted 02-07-2017 07:26 PM

An air leak will reverse the flow of air?

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Fred Hargis

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#3 posted 02-07-2017 07:28 PM

Check to see if the impeller has moved on the shaft. I’ve seen this screw up an axial fan type blower…might do it with an impeller. I guess at some point it was working correctly, and this just started?

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Rhino690

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#4 posted 02-07-2017 07:29 PM

Did I even install it properly? Turn the picture.

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MrRon

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#5 posted 02-07-2017 08:06 PM

It all appears to be hooked up correctly. I think the hose leading the blower to the outside is blocked and maybe the impeller has come loose.

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ArtMann

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#6 posted 02-07-2017 08:51 PM

Another Apple iphone picture?

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Fred Hargis

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#7 posted 02-07-2017 08:57 PM

You did, the inlet is in the center of the blower housing, and the outlet is what you have piped to the wall.

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sawdustdad

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#8 posted 02-07-2017 09:35 PM

1.) You didn’t by any chance rewire the motor did you? Could it be running backwards or running on 120V when it’s supposed to be 240V? (wired as 240V with 120V service?).

Air in = air out. That’s physics.

2.)Either you are underestimating suction flow, or over estimating exhaust flow. Remember, if the inlet is 5 or 6 inches in dia, the air velocity will be much less than exiting air through a 4 inch hose.

3.)If they are both the same size, see reason one or two.

-- Murphy's Carpentry Corollary #3: Half of all boards cut to a specific length will be too short.

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Rhino690

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#9 posted 02-07-2017 10:19 PM

Ok, I’ll check it when I get home. It’s just really strange. It’s blowing air upwards towards the motor.

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Rhino690

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#10 posted 02-07-2017 10:22 PM

I didn’t rewire it either. I’ll also check the discharge hose.

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Rhino690

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#11 posted 02-07-2017 10:33 PM

Does the dust container have to have an airtight seal to the dust deputy? In the picture you’ll see a piece of plywood attached to the deputy. I routered a circular trench in thr plywood to match the lip of the dust container but didn’t silicone it as it has to be periodically emptied. No bungy cords either.

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Carloz

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#12 posted 02-07-2017 10:55 PM

I do not know about the motor in HF dust collector, but in order to mount the motor vertically it must have special bearings such as deep-groove ball bearings, angular-contact ball bearings etc.
Most probably the dust collector motor has regular radial bearings that must be used horizontally.


Did I even install it properly? Turn the picture.

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shipwright

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#13 posted 02-08-2017 12:07 AM

Dust deputy doesn’t work on its side. Try setting it up like this.

Seriously though, it looks right except that the exhaust hose is very long and could be reducing air volume.
Air out determines how much air can be sucked in so I think you would have better results if you could rotate the fan unit and blow it directly through the wall instead of through five or six feet of curving hose.

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TheFridge

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#14 posted 02-08-2017 12:21 AM

I’ve have mine on it’s side for awhile without any problems

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gmakra

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#15 posted 02-08-2017 02:01 PM

Bet ya have a plug of debris on the discharge side someplace.

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rwe2156

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#16 posted 02-08-2017 02:18 PM

A bicycle inner tube around the lip of the trash can will help make a good seal.

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ohtimberwolf

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#17 posted 02-08-2017 02:36 PM

“at the inlet, the suction part of it is very weak but the blowing part is quite strongat the inlet, the suction part of it is very weak but the blowing part is quite strong” posters, think about this.

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Rhinoc

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#18 posted 02-09-2017 12:30 AM

gmakra nailed it. When I installed the vent, I used a dryer vent. It had a screen on it to keep critters out. And the screen was enough to clog up the flow of air. I removed it and it now works fine. Thanks for all the help.

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