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Anyone know how to fix a kinked tenon saw?

by BigJohn
posted 01-06-2017 02:18 PM


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Lazyman

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#1 posted 01-06-2017 02:19 PM

Pictures?

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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BigJohn

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#2 posted 01-06-2017 02:20 PM

Hard to see in the pic but I will try

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#3 posted 01-06-2017 02:27 PM

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#4 posted 01-06-2017 02:28 PM

Was brand new when I shipped it. Used less than 5 times. Be careful selling your stuff. The auction site sided with him.

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#5 posted 01-06-2017 02:37 PM

Id bet its just slipped in the spine. Knock the spine off and reset it. Try throwing a post up here as well. Those LN saws have a tendency to grab if you don’t use a light touch to start it. Looks like it was ham fisted to me.

-- Its not a crack, its a casting imperfection.

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BigJohn

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#6 posted 01-06-2017 02:42 PM

It was ham fisted for sure. The dude had it for 10 days before said he wanted a refund.

Here is the original pic before I shipped it. You could see a kink like that.

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#7 posted 01-06-2017 02:44 PM

Was the box damaged in shipping? I would file a claim with the shipping company?

I’ve never done it but I found a couple of references on line. This one might be helpful.

Paul Sellers has a video for straightening a gents saw but it is for a more gentle bend rather than a kink but still might be helpful for straigntent the back and for fine tuning.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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BigJohn

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#8 posted 01-06-2017 02:47 PM

The box was still perfect. I just cannot file a claim for shipping insurance knowing that it was not done in shipping. In my experience there is only one way to make a saw look like that lol

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#9 posted 01-06-2017 02:50 PM

I’m 95% sure its just slipped in the spine. Getting the spine off isn’t always the easiest thing to do but you can put a block of wood against it at the toe and beat on that block with a steel hammer. Once you get it started its not so bad to finish off. Id also venture to guess that if you sent it back to LN theyd fix it for ya either with a new plate or resetting the existing one. Its likely not kinked but just deformed.

I’m going to put out the bat signal for LJ summerfi. He’d be the first guy I asked if I had this problem.

-- Its not a crack, its a casting imperfection.

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#10 posted 01-06-2017 02:56 PM

Buyer clearly doesn’t deserve to have a large tenon saw. What a crappy experience for you, John. Agreed that a ship-back to LN would get it addressed. Also +1 for Stef’s suggestions and referral of summerfi. That LJ is god-like in his saw expertise.

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#11 posted 01-06-2017 02:57 PM

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#12 posted 01-06-2017 06:57 PM

I agree with chrisstef, that pattern of bend is very typical when the blade has slipped in the spine, causing uneven tension. I’ve fixed many backsaws like that, but in this case I would definitely contact Lie-Nielsen about fixing it. They are very good about that sort of thing.

-- Bob, Missoula, MT -- Rocky Mountain Saw Works http://www.rmsaws.com/p/about-us.html

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#13 posted 01-06-2017 10:12 PM

Call LN, they’ll walk you through it.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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#14 posted 01-06-2017 11:47 PM

I disagree. That blade is kinked at the tip caused by the user pushing and pulling the saw and twisting it at the same time. I would bet the user did the damage and won’t own up on what he did. I would recommend contacting LN and see what they can do. In the interest of customer good will, they might just repair it or replace it for free.

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BigJohn

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#15 posted 01-06-2017 11:53 PM

Yeah he had it for 10 days and said he just now opened it and saw it was kinked. Did NOT look like that when it was shipped. I think I will send LN and email and at least ask if they can fix it.

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#16 posted 01-07-2017 12:01 AM

I think you’re doing the right things. Let us know what they say.

-- Bob, Missoula, MT -- Rocky Mountain Saw Works http://www.rmsaws.com/p/about-us.html

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#17 posted 01-07-2017 04:37 AM

Had a similar thing happen to mine. No where near as bad. Just didn’t cut like I expected plus it was 1” to deep for me to use on a regular basis. Sold it to a buddy who had called LN beforehand. They told him to hit it spine first in the bench or a block of wood. Right as rain after that.

I don’t know if it’ll completely fix the problem but I’m pretty sure it’s part of it.

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#18 posted 01-07-2017 11:43 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzc4tQ5CRxk

-- ... Never Apologise For Being Right ...

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#19 posted 01-12-2017 02:09 AM

The Paul Sellers video that Lazyman and BigYin posted was very interesting. I wonder if simple jostling and banging around in shipping caused the plate to move around in the spine. Makes me rethink how I would ship a saw.

-- Don K, (Houghton, Michigan .. Soon Holland, Michigan)

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