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by XACX
posted 11-19-2009 02:35 AM


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#1 posted 11-19-2009 02:42 AM

Hi welcome to Ljs
The absolute must have tool for woodworking is a table saw. The best one I know of is a Ridgid in that price range. and then a router.

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#2 posted 11-19-2009 03:11 AM

Thanks Jim,

I actually think the new Model # for the Ridgid is the TS3660. HD has it on sale for 499 plus a 15% rebate and I think you get another 10% off if I were to open an HD Card. So that would put it at $400 and the Bosch Router is about $180. This seems like it would probably be my best bang for buck scenerio. THe Hitachi Saw looks pretty nice though. I am having trouble finding many options in this general price range. Sub $600 sems to be high quality worksite saws like the Bosch 4100 or cheaper Contractors saws. The Hitachi and Ridgid definitely seem to be the best of the this price range.

-- When life gives you lemons....Throw them at other people!

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#3 posted 11-19-2009 03:21 AM

I have to agree with Jim on this one… and Ridgid tools have always done me very well. 90% of my stationary tools are Ridgid.

-- I GIVE UP!!!! I've cut this @!&*!% board 3 times.... its still too short!

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#4 posted 11-19-2009 03:39 AM

I echo the comments before me, go with the Ridgid, I am not a big fan of Hitachi tools, I think they are over priced for what they are, Ridgid makes good stuff.

-- A hammer dangling from a wall will bang and sound like work when the wind blows the right way.

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#5 posted 11-19-2009 03:40 AM

Good deal,

I have never dealt with Ridgid as we don’t really have a Home Depot close by, so most of my tools come from Sears, Lowes, and Fastenal. I do know that Consumer Reports loves all things Ridgid, and Consumer Reports has never let me down in the past. Oh, and I am not sure what the model# is as they don’t list them on the HD website, but it has the Granite top.

-- When life gives you lemons....Throw them at other people!

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#6 posted 11-19-2009 03:49 AM

Search on here for the thread about a granite top breaking. Welcome to LJ!!

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#7 posted 11-19-2009 05:16 AM

I have the Ridgid 3660 and love it. Downside is poor dust collection but that can be dealt with adequately. It cuts everything I want, recently did a 8/4 butcher block with maple and walnut, cut like a champ. No regrets and probably comparable to saws in higher price brackets.

With that said, I would attempt to stay with a cast iron top like the 3660. I have never used the granite top but I have not heard great things so far. Some with granite tops would maybe disagree, but I am confident I am not going to break my cast iron top in my life time. My top can see some abuse from time to time and with granite I would be more cautious. Also, I use a magswitch featherboard, mostly on my shaper though, but from time to time I might use it with my 3660. That would not be possible on a granite top.

So, go for a 3660 or a comparable to that. You would likely need to get the 3660 used but well worth it. My best advise would be the Ridgid and a router and off of CL if you can be patient. I have 6 PC routers and all but one (that one off of CL) was bought on Ebay at great deals, they are a dime to a dozen and found cheap with shipping. PC is the biggest name for routers and should be your most flexible as most jigs and such are designed with PC routers in mind. If you buy right you will never loose, we could probably sell most or all our tools for a profit over what we have invested and we have bought quality.

Also, stay away from hitatchi TS and certainly not the skil bench saw.

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#8 posted 11-19-2009 07:08 AM

I too would echo the Rigid 4511

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#9 posted 11-19-2009 02:39 PM

Thanks Everybody.

Hitachi doesn’t seem to be getting ayn love, but I have the middle of the road Miter saw and the Reciprocating saw and they were a great product for the price paid. Features are comparable to the upper end brands at 30% less. I like all I am hearing about Ridgid and definitely like the price, my only issue is that the closest HD is 30mins away.

-- When life gives you lemons....Throw them at other people!

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#10 posted 11-19-2009 03:26 PM

I would look on craiglist / ebay local, for a used saw, you can often find a quality contact saw in near new condition going for $250, just my 02 cents

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#11 posted 11-19-2009 03:54 PM

I echo Craigslist, look for one of the Emerson built Craftsman table saws, Ryobi BT3000/BT3100 or older style Ridgid. They typically sell in the $100-$200. Just make sure to power it up before loading it into your vehicle.

Depending on the condition you may need to purchase a new belt or rail, but in my opinion the limitations of a portable contractor saw outweighs the risk/reward of buying a used saw.

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#12 posted 11-19-2009 10:53 PM

Whatever you do, I wouldn’t spend all my money on a tablesaw, Better to buy a slightly lesser cost saw, a couple of better quality blades, and a quality router if you don’t have one…..

You can builder a lot of stuff with a tablesaw, a router, and a random orbit sander…...

-- Some people have a shop so they can build things, the rest of us build things so we can have a shop...

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#13 posted 11-19-2009 11:09 PM

I’ll ad another vote for the Ridgid 4511 and Bosch router – both are excellent machines that will serve you well, and many years.

do prepare to spend more soon on some other tools though, as getting into this world requires you to stock up on some necessities. squares, marking tools, bits, blades, sharpening tools, and the likes

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#14 posted 11-19-2009 11:42 PM

Welcome XACX

I’m not a fan of the granite table tops, I too recall a thread about them breaking.

And I suggest a Porter-Cable router, the 690 series over the Bosch. I have Bosch, DeWalt, and PC routers from 1-1/4Hp to to 3-1/4HP and the PC 1-1/2HP & 1-3/4HP routers see the most use.

Don’t focus on the HP rating of these routes, it’s not true HP. When you get into the HP rating of these routers they’re all inflated. If that Bosch 2-1/4HP were truly 2-1/4HP it would draw about 20A and I’ll guarantee you it does not draw 20A. In fact it draws 12A so at best it’s a 1-1/2HP router. The PC 1-3/4HP draws 11A, so that 1 extra amp that the Bosch draws adds 1/2HP? Not.

You can pick up a 690/693 for around $133 and the combo kit with the plunge base for around $187.

I use the PC 690 series 1-1/2HP and 1-3/4HP routers the most and I find they have more then enough power. The PC 690 design is tried an true and has been around for many many years. In fact so much so that all the other manufacturers finally started copying the design, DeWalt, Bosch, Milwaukee, etc. And that includes the 1617EVS. I’d say go with the original.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#15 posted 11-19-2009 11:51 PM

I have mostly Ridgid stationary tools and PC routers. Stay completely away from anything Skil or Black and Decker.

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#16 posted 11-19-2009 11:59 PM

Your best friend is a solid and reliable tool. I would go for quality over quantity. Focus on the best table saw you can find that fits into your budget. Tim

-- Tim from Iowa City, IA

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#17 posted 11-20-2009 12:16 AM

I will add to getting the best table saw you can afford but… Your project of building a toy chest could be done very nicely with a circular saw and a good blade. Just my 2 cents… I would go for a good router and save up to buy a table saw that will be very accurate and last for a lifetime. The table saw will be your center of the shop. Another 2 cents… after the table saw go for a band saw…

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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#18 posted 11-20-2009 12:20 AM

I second the Craigslist suggestion, I buy there a lot lately.

Here’s a Delta TS in your neck of the woods:
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/tls/1461069332.html

Here’s what looks like a UniSaw, a little higher then you have to spend but you could talk him down a bit and you wouldn’t be sorry. Read Brad_Nailer’s blog about the UniSaw he’s picking up this Saturday off of Craigslist:
http://nashville.craigslist.org/tls/1462126274.html

Here’s what looks to be a 70’s UniSaw, again you could probably get him down and it be worth it:
http://nashville.craigslist.org/tls/1459438749.html

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#19 posted 11-20-2009 12:57 AM

I won’t get involved with my opinion on brands except to say, don’t get a “cheapo” anything. Get the best quality you can afford. Go for quality, not quantity! I would rather have fewer decent tools than a shop full of worthless junk.

-- http://shepherdtoolandsupply.com/

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#20 posted 11-20-2009 04:37 AM

Thanks for all the great advice guys. I have checked out Craigslist and ebay and they both have some options. I especially like the Powermatic 66, I am not sure why except it has a very industrial look that I find pleaseing to the eye. One of my problems is I do not have a true shop as of right now. As soon as I can find it in me to let go of the IH Scout I rebuilt my uncle and I are going to build one behind my house. He is the one that got me interested in the whole thing to begin with. He has a 1953 Delta and a newer shopsmith, so I have been going to him for advice as well. All that being said for now I can’t really fit my Pathfinder and my wife’s car into the garage along with all my other stuff so I have relegated the Nissan to the driveway and have made the 2nd half of the garage my space, so I need something that is semi-portable. I don’t know when I will let go of the scout so I would like to get the best mobile hybrid table for the money I have.

I like alot of the attributes of the Hitachi but I think for the money I am going to have to lean towards the Ridgid. I am waiting to see what Sears is going to do for the Holiday sale season as they have a couple of Jet saws in the $700-$900 range, with a good sale they could easily come down a bit and I can always ask for a Router for Christmas.

As far as the Porter Cable router goes I have heard some bad things about the NEW models they put out. I have a buddy who owns a Lumber Company in Knoxville and he said that since Dewalt bought them the quality is not as good as it is slowly becoming the price point tool. I have a couple of the compact Bosch drills, and I have asked them to some things while rebuilding the Scout and Brit Bikes that they were not meant to do, and they always did it with no complaints. I have some medium grade Skil stuff and it’s alright, I definitely wish I would have held out for something a bit better for $30 more. The Hitachi Miter and Reciprocating saw have been more than adequate and I have always been pleased with the performance of my Dewalt drill and Orbital sander. I am still learning what I like and what is good, as I gain some experience I will figure it out. I am just completely lost when it comes to the Table Saw. I am not sure why maybe it’s the size of the tool that intimdates me but it has been the first item I have really been stuck on purchasing

-- When life gives you lemons....Throw them at other people!

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#21 posted 11-20-2009 04:44 AM

For those who suggest CL, you must live in an area with lots of opportunities. Here in Maine, CL covers the entire state and the majority of CL offerings are Craftsman benchtop, direct-drive saws. Seldom see anything worth taking a second look and if I do, the seller wants an arm and both legs!

Jim

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#22 posted 11-20-2009 05:14 AM

^Yeah, I am pretty lucky here as I am 45 mins south of Knoxville and 45 mins north of Chattanooga plus Nasville and Atlanta are less than 2.5 hours away. I have listed some things on Craig’s List but never bought anything, I am an Ebay guy. My Dad loves Craftsman stuff, but I think he remembers Craftsman when it was more of a highend brand and mostly mechanics tools anyhow. This is off topic but back in the beginning of the summer I wanted to upgrade my toolbox and Craftsman couldn’t touch the Cobalt quality for the price.

-- When life gives you lemons....Throw them at other people!

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#23 posted 11-20-2009 08:28 PM

What about this wrinkle? I have a friend who owns a lumber company in Knoxville and he doesn’t carry saws because he is more into supplying home building materials, anyhow he thinks that he can get Jet products and I could probably get a good deal (at cost) and they seem to have some smaller “hybrid” motels, like the Pro-Shop 708482. Just something I might look into. All the saws I can find in my area seem to be cabinet saws and I am just not quite ready for that yet regardless of the deal. I will probably just go with the Ridgid as there seem to be a lot of happy owners on here.

-- When life gives you lemons....Throw them at other people!

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#24 posted 11-20-2009 08:50 PM

i third the going used route for the TS, then spending the savings on nice blades and router bits…

However: I would also consider/add to that the rest of the budget and your needs. You didnt mention owning any of the assortment of hand tools that many (most? all?) of us here would use to complement the power tool arsenal. The top ones being:

Combination square
Straightedge
calipers
protractor/angle finder
1 or 2 bench planes (jack, smoothing, and block get the top votes)
3-4 chisels
did i leave out anyting critical? tape measure? some general stuff you probably already have?

ALL of which i highly recommend going the used/vintage/ebay route and can be had for less than $100. you’ll also need some sharpening supplies for those – i’ll recommend the scary sharp (sandpaper on glass) method for that.

Finally – a bench! depending on your preference for power or hand tools this’ll take different forms, but you will need something no matter what.

Anyway, $600 seems like a great budget to start with. it sounds like a lot of fun to start off with a nice pot of $!

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#25 posted 11-20-2009 08:57 PM

Boy, if that’s really happening with Porter-Cable that’s really a shame. Most of my stuff is pre-B&D takeover or at least before B&D’s influence became apparent.

But, I can’t say I’m surprised, I expected it. B&D is quantity not quality orientated. They want you to replace your tools every 3- 5 years which is depicted by their product lines only lasting that long. Even when it’s something fairly decent.

I was really sad to see Delta and Porter-Cable sold to B&D, B&D’s goal is $$ while sacrificing quality, quite contrary to what got Delta to where it is today.

My only hope now is Stanley’s going to put a stop to that and hopefully reverse it, and dump Archibald what ever his name is. My impression of Stanley was that quality has always been important to them, not like B&D. So I’m hoping.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#26 posted 11-21-2009 01:49 AM

Aaron
Good Suggestions, I actually have alot of stuff like (except for a ptrotacter) from little construction projects and I used to roof a bit a long time ago. I have still been looking for used saws but they are all big cabinets. I have been looking at some hand tools but I really wasn’t sure about the neccesity of having them.

Blankman

I think that they will still put out some highend models at specialty shops, but at the big box stores the models will be of lesser quality. That is what I hear but there is no telling how true that is, as my buddy could just be getting fed a line from an competitors rep

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#27 posted 11-21-2009 05:29 AM

good that youve got some of those basics – i didnt have them and discovered the need/use of them the hard way! eek.

as far as hand tools, I guess there really isnt an absolute necessity, as you could potentially do everything with power tools, but being able to pare away little bits with a chisel and smooth up and/or level areas with a plane are two things that are just so basic and simple (and FUN) with the hand tools that they seem common even with people who swear by power tools. it does sort of appear overwhelming at first, but it is really not that bad, and then a whole new and interesting world is opened up for you. food for thought: a sharp (plane) iron will leave a surface that is nicer than a sanded one and is ready to finish just like that.

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#28 posted 11-21-2009 09:02 PM

Not to be one who will say “don’t buy new stuff”, but I bought a GREAT G0444Z TS, dust collector, and a bunch of ancillary components for $500.00. Found ‘em on a “for sale” site.
Bill

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#29 posted 11-21-2009 09:08 PM

My only advise is to avoid cheapo. Buy good quality even if it is only one item. Happy shopping.

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#30 posted 11-25-2009 04:51 AM

Anybody know what this is? It is on Craigslist but the guy didn’t seem to know much about it as he had taken in it on trade as payment for some work. I know it’s a Delta but I can’t tell the model or the apprx. age. It’s about 1.75hours away so I hat to make a trip just to peek at it, Thanks

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#31 posted 11-25-2009 05:20 AM

Looks like a right tilt Unisaw and not all that old. Would guess 3hp 220v single phase.

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#32 posted 11-25-2009 05:44 AM

I agree it looks like a unisaw, depending on how much he wants it may be very well worth the time to go check it out.

-- I GIVE UP!!!! I've cut this @!&*!% board 3 times.... its still too short!

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#33 posted 11-25-2009 05:51 AM

I’d do the Ridgid… but the bad news is the saw is being discontinued. Still a cabinet saw with dust collection, granite top… herc-ulift system… at a price of $450ish… where can you match that…

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#34 posted 11-25-2009 04:08 PM

He is asking $700 for it.

How can you tell that it is a right tilt? I have very little experience with table saws, mostly little prtable used to rip some boards while building decks, but I think that I would prefer the left tilt.

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#35 posted 12-03-2009 02:27 AM

I’d add my vote for the Ridgid saw… Don’t cheap out on your table saw, I learned that lesson when I bought my first saw. Just sold it for 1/2 what I paid for it and spent the money on a new Craftsman Hybrid, it has made a SIGNIFICANT improvement on what I can do.

As far as “how can you tell that it is a right tilt?”, look at the handle that adjusts the blade tilt on the front. Right tilt has the low part of the curve on the right arcs up and to the left, left tilt is the opposite, low part of the curve on the left, arcs up and to the right.

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#36 posted 12-10-2009 02:46 AM

Still looking.
I was pretty much settled on the Ridgid but have been spending more time looking at craigslist and and other brands. Recently my Uncle stopped by the Sears in Knoxville and noticed they have the Craftsman 22124 on sale for 750. My parents are getting me a router for Christmas so I am going to put a bit more money into a saw. From what I can tell the Craftsman seems to be a pretty decent saw for the money. Also, it appears that it is made by Steel City or someone that makes both their saws. at this price range their is a also the Jet Proshop I am still keeping my eyes on.

Off Topic, I found a Mini lathe my Dad had purchased and never used and I have been practicing on scrap wood and I think I am going to play around with some pen making as way to give a cool gift to some friends.

-- When life gives you lemons....Throw them at other people!

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#37 posted 12-17-2009 04:50 AM

Well, my Dilema is over.

I looked around long enough for Christmas and my Birthday to come into to play, so, my Dad said today “What do you think about getting the router yourself and we’ll get you the saw.” I tried to resist, but he twisted my arm. I decided on the Craftsman Pro 22124. It’s on sale for $750 because I think they are replacing it with the granite topped hybrid. From the specs and reviews it seems like a good bang for the buck and will be something I won’t outgrow, as a budding hobbyist. Plus if you look at it this way: The Biesmeyer fence is about $250-$300, so that is like the saw being about $500. If you threw a cheap fence on it and sold it for $500, I think it would be a great saw for a great deal. That maybe a dumb way to look at it but I am good at rationalizing. I am going to pick it up tommorow and hopefully start setting it up this weekend. I hope to be working on some boxes soon. Thamks everyone for the help and advice.

-- When life gives you lemons....Throw them at other people!

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#38 posted 12-17-2009 05:10 AM

nice! congrats! that machine is nothing to shake a stick at. i’d be proud to own/use it. you going to go with the bosch router? with all that you’ll have plenty left over. you might consider getting a planer and/or jointer, and some accessories for the lot. (i vote for a planer!)

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#39 posted 12-17-2009 05:22 AM

^Thanks. I am excited about it. It is much more than I really need but everything will work out that I can get something to grow with.

Yeah I like the Bosch (not that I would know the difference really) I have been very pleased with anything Bosch I have owned. I have been playing with a mini lathe and have enjoyed turning some pens so I think that if I keep working with that I may need to add a drill press, rather than going over to facotry to drill out the blannk.

-- When life gives you lemons....Throw them at other people!

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#40 posted 12-17-2009 05:40 AM

and all this started with making your 1 year old daughter a toy chest

I hope you get it done in time

Christmas is about who?

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#41 posted 12-17-2009 08:36 AM

between the Ridgid and the Craftsman – I’d go with the Ridgid based on specs and features, but the craftsman is still a good saw with a good fence! congratulations :) and happy holidays/birthday.

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#42 posted 12-17-2009 10:43 PM

Thanks again for the help.

I definitely lucked out. It helped that my Dad found some clock plans and kits that he would like to build and would need my help to handle the wooden portions. I think that when I pick up and set up the saw that it will be a more than adequate for my hobby needs. I am already picking out some projects from the books I have bought. I am going to hold up on the Toy Box until I feel my skills and quality have improved enough to allow me build something that will last (aesthetically and structurally). For starters it will be small boxes and practice cuts. I really want to get into dovetailing with a router, so I may take the class from Woodcraft once I get the PC Jig and a router.

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#43 posted 12-17-2009 11:36 PM

looks like your headed in the right direction, congrats, and good saw dust making…

-- Ken, Tallahassee,FL

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#44 posted 12-18-2009 10:08 PM

Well, not picking it up today. The world decided to come to an end here in east TN, by that I mean there is a projected 1”- 3” snowfall, and that will basically close down knoxville for the day or so. Plus I am not thrilled about bringing the saw back in the foul weather for a 45 minute drive. We’ll see what the weather does but I won’t risk it, there are to many idiots with to little cold weather driving skills around here. I grew up in MI and WV and feel fairly confident in my ability to drive in most snowy conditions but the knuckle heads around here will be all over the roads like it was bumper cars.

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#45 posted 12-18-2009 11:35 PM

lol i hear ya. i grew up in boston, and live in WV now and i feel that way about WV!

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#46 posted 12-19-2009 12:40 AM

^Yeah that must be a culture shock. I lived in Buzzard’s Bay/Falmouth area for a while (on the Cape). It was a shock for me going from MI to WV and then again going from TN to MA. What part of WV are you in now?

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#47 posted 12-20-2009 02:06 AM

morgantown… there’s absolutely no more than 6” on the ground and the Gov called a state of emergency and no cars are allowed on the road! ridiculous!

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#48 posted 12-22-2009 01:37 AM

^Cool alot of my family and friends went to WVU. I only spent time there for Football games.

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#49 posted 12-22-2009 01:56 AM

Well, I’m done (almost). I picked the Saw up on saturday and between Sat. evening and a bit this afternoon, My Uncle and I got it put togther and squared up. It was a beast in it’s shipping crate, but it traveled well I didn’t even need to tie it down, it was so heavy it stayed put in the back of the truck. Assembly was straight forward and directions weren’t bad. All-in-all it was a fairly pleasant experience (keep in mind, that I find great joy in assembling things). I was very pleased with the heftiness of the saw itself. It looks and feels like a well made piece of machinery. There were, maybe, a few fit and finish things but not enough to complain about and besides its a Saw not a Porsche. Once we finished the assembly we cranked it up and I was very happy with how quiet the motor is. My Uncle even threw a penny on it and to my surprise it started it up with moving the old Abe. We lined the fence up and set it to 2” ran a piece of 1×3 down and it put out a perfect piece of 1×2. I am very excited with the Biesmeyer Fence and the fact that I can set it to a measurement and it will be accurate without having to always double check. I was a little dissapointed with the quality of the extension table that came packed with the Biesmeyer fence, but it’s not a big deal because I think that I will replace it with a home made router table top, built from MDF. The last thing I need to do is adjust the Fence rail as the bracket is a little to low and the fence is not riding quite right. Overall I am very VERY pleased with this saw and I’m sure that it will provide me many years of great service as grow into the hobby of woodworking.

-- When life gives you lemons....Throw them at other people!

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26 posts in 2948 days


#50 posted 12-22-2009 06:58 AM

Well I think the new saw is completely ready to go. Everything seems to be set up properly & square and working correctly. The fence rail bracket just needed to be moved up a little and that solved the rough sliding issue. I double checked it and it is still set right, I can set it at 10” grab a square and it measures out to exactly 10” from the fence to edge of the blade. Now I just need a mobile base and I am set. I am goona try to turn a key chain, as a gift, tommorow and then I am going to try and build a small box.

I gotta say thanks to my Uncle for helping me get my new saw set-up right and also for letting me play with his lathe when I was about 13, and sparking an interest that lay dormant until this past year.

-- When life gives you lemons....Throw them at other people!

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