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Aftermarket Fence quality taken a dive?

by Regalzack
posted 05-16-2016 08:38 PM


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#1 posted 05-16-2016 08:47 PM

Incra LS-III

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#2 posted 05-16-2016 08:54 PM

VSCtools.com

Best fence IMO out there.

-- Nick, “I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it.” – Vincent Van Gogh

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#3 posted 05-16-2016 08:57 PM

I restored an old unisaw and looked around at all the different systems. After watching a few videos on the incra I decided on it. After putting it on, at first I thought I would hate it, after using it for a few days I fell in love with it. I think I paid around 450.00 for mine and would buy it again. There not for everyone but you might give it a look. One thing about it you’ll cut striaght wood with it.
Gerald

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#4 posted 05-16-2016 09:50 PM

I would not buy a new Biese at the prices they go for. HTC, Jet Xacta II, PM Accufence, Vega, Shop Fox Classic, Saw Stop T-Glide, Incra….

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#5 posted 05-16-2016 10:37 PM



I would not buy a new Biese at the prices they go for. HTC, Jet Xacta II, PM Accufence, Vega, Shop Fox Classic, Saw Stop T-Glide, Incra….

- knotscott

Say what???

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#6 posted 05-16-2016 11:47 PM

I have a Incra LS-III and get ok results. But if you read The Wood Whisper’s review of the fence and why he did not trust it you may change to another fence.

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#7 posted 05-17-2016 01:15 AM

Used Unifence. Better than all of the above.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#8 posted 05-17-2016 01:18 AM

I would not buy a new Biese at the prices they go for. HTC, Jet Xacta II, PM Accufence, Vega, Shop Fox Classic, Saw Stop T-Glide, Incra….

- knotscott

Say what???

- conifur

The new Biese isn’t as well made as the originals, or many of the better copies. It’s also no longer made in the USA….why pay the premium?

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#9 posted 05-17-2016 01:46 AM

The new Biese isn t as well made as the originals, or many of the better copies. It s also no longer made in the USA….why pay the premium?
- knotscott

I’m not seeing much of a premium, as one can be had for under $200, and most of the others mentioned are around that price or more (w/the incra being twice the price!).

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#10 posted 05-17-2016 01:40 PM

FWIW, I have a PM63 that Vega made the fence for. It’s the equivalent of the Pro26. You couldn’t wrestle that fence away from me. I love it. Vega is still a small company and it’s still US made. I understand their customer service is fantastic but have never had cause to use it personally. If zombies ever eat my fence, I won’t hesitate for a minute to go buy another Vega.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#11 posted 05-17-2016 02:06 PM

http://vsctools.com/ totally agree, excellent fence

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#12 posted 05-17-2016 02:10 PM



VSCtools.com

Best fence IMO out there.

- UpstateNYdude

+1 what he said

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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#13 posted 05-17-2016 03:28 PM

I have heavily used the Incra fence for about 9 years now and it is exceptionally great. I would buy it again in a heartbeat. I also have the Incra router fences and they are also the best i have owned.
When I first bought it I installed it on a Grizzly cabinet saw and when I upgraded to the SawStop I kept it and installed it on the new saw.
Also use the incra system on my router table

-- Wood for projects is like a good Fart..."better when you cut it yourself"

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#14 posted 05-17-2016 04:41 PM

I wasn’t impressed with the vega 26 that I put on my craftsman contractor saw. It had a noticeable amount of deflection when it was locked down into place. It’s an ok fence for the cost, but if I was to do it again it’d be an Incra or Very Super Cool fence

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#15 posted 05-17-2016 05:20 PM

I restored a 30+ year old Jet cabinet saw and the Biesemeyer fence on it is a tank…. very heavy gauge steel. Very solid construction, very little deflection. If you can find an old one, it might just be the trick.

We have a Unisaw set up at work with the Unifence, and it seems to be a quality built and well thought out system. I think you can still get these from Delta.

Alas, China has killed quality globally. Manufacturers have to cheapen up your products to compete with imports or go the way of the Do-Do bird.

-- I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam

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#16 posted 05-17-2016 05:57 PM



Incra LS-III

- MadMark


I’d have to cut a hole in my wall to use it.

Used Unifence. Better than all of the above.

- Rick M.


There’s something we can agree on.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#17 posted 05-17-2016 07:04 PM

+100!


Used Unifence. Better than all of the above.

- Rick M.


-- "Lack of effort will result in failure with amazing predictability" - Me

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#18 posted 05-17-2016 07:14 PM

I have used an Incra TSIII (early model of the LSIII) for many years now, and have been very happy with it. It is precise, accurate, strong and has the best repeatability in the business. The only complaint that I have is that it takes a large footprint when backed up for a 16” cut. Even with a small shop, this is no big deal for me, as I have learned to work around it. I would recommend it and would but one again.

-- "Now I'm just another old guy wearing funny clothes"

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#19 posted 05-17-2016 07:36 PM



The new Biese isn t as well made as the originals, or many of the better copies. It s also no longer made in the USA….why pay the premium?
- knotscott

I m not seeing much of a premium, as one can be had for under $200, and most of the others mentioned are around that price or more (w/the incra being twice the price!).

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

For $200 you can come close to getting the Biesemeyer fence, or the aluminum Biese rails, but both as a full fence and rails set will run at least $400.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#20 posted 05-17-2016 07:58 PM

For $200 you can come close to getting the Biesemeyer fence, or the aluminum Biese rails, but both as a full fence and rails set will run at least $400.
- knotscott

Here is the 30” Biesemeyer (complete w/rails) for $219 w/free shipping: Delta 36-T30 or here it is at Home Depot for $193. A comprable Incra LS32-TS is around $400.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#21 posted 05-17-2016 08:17 PM



+100!

Used Unifence. Better than all of the above.

- Rick M.

- bigblockyeti

Yes, unifence.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#22 posted 05-17-2016 09:43 PM


For $200 you can come close to getting the Biesemeyer fence, or the aluminum Biese rails, but both as a full fence and rails set will run at least $400.
- knotscott

Here is the 30” Biesemeyer (complete w/rails) for $219 w/free shipping: Delta 36-T30 or here it is at Home Depot for $193. A comprable Incra LS32-TS is around $400.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

That’s the Delta T3 (formerly the T2) ....basically a “Biese Lite”, which I think is a great bang for the buck < $200. The commercial Biese that comes on the Unisaw and is available as an aftermarket unit is bigger, and the new ones now have an alumunim front rail. They’ve boogered up the model numbers enough that it’s easy to confuse. Here’s the commercial Biese (aka Delta BC30T2) – $432 at Amazon….$399 at HD and Walmart.com

Biese: Delta BC30T2/BC50T2

T3: Delta 36-T30

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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