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#1 posted 1786 days ago

to each his own >grinz<

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#2 posted 1786 days ago

Exactly Dan!

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#3 posted 1786 days ago

I don’t see any problem with it. The choices are the same; look at it or don’t look at it, only with the change it will be a lot easier to not look at it if you so choose. I know there was some discussion recently about possibly subdividing the site because some LJs didn’t want to sift through so much stuff to find something they were interested in and this should help them too.

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

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#4 posted 1786 days ago

DaleM – “Look at it or don’t look at it” – how do you know what it is without looking at it.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#5 posted 1786 days ago

So Gary, is this a woodworking post or a coffee lounge post? :-)

Kidding aside, I think you have a good idea. Personally, I enjoy the off-topic communication. But for those who don’t care to sift through those posts, it should be easy enough to have a show/hide option in our account preferences for each of the forums.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#6 posted 1786 days ago

lumberjock is what a lumberjock does

-- keeping myself entertained ... Humor and fun lubricate the brain

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#7 posted 1786 days ago

Charlie – This is posted in the “Lumberjock site feedback” section.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#8 posted 1786 days ago

100% with you GaryK

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#9 posted 1786 days ago

You’re right Gary, you don’t know, because the pulse page isn’t broken down that way. I like your idea. Personally, I would still like to check in on the coffee lounge forum, but the option would be nice because I like to use the pulse function and it gets really busy. It’s especially hard when you’ve been away for a few days.

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

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#10 posted 1786 days ago

To refine what I was saying…. When you click on the “Forums” tab, all the forums come up at the top of the page, showing how many posts are in each. Then, right below, ALL forum topics are listed.

It seems like it would be pretty easy to put a filter check box next to each of the forums listed at the top so that any ones you checked would be excluded from the list of topics. So not only could you filter out the coffee lounge posts, but let’s say I didn’t want to see any “trade and swap” posts, I could filter those out as well.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#11 posted 1786 days ago

I only use the Pulse page.

This gives you everything posted as it’s posted.

I try not to miss anything.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#12 posted 1786 days ago

I’ll second that… I like to use the Pulse page, which keeps the latest discussions at hand, but recently, it seems like many of those are “threads to pass time” – although I can enjoy such a thread once in a while – I’m here on LJ for lumberjocks topics and discussions, and those get buried away on the pulse page too often.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#13 posted 1786 days ago

I guess “to each his own” applies here..I too get sucked into…er, I mean enjoy the off topic stuff, but I could see why somebody might want to click ignore…But couldn’t you just not bother looking if you see its a coffee lounge post…or do you just want to not even see the titles so you don,t get sucked in??? ;0)

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#14 posted 1786 days ago

I’m with Gary, good idea!

-- Bill, Florida

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#15 posted 1786 days ago

Well, I guess I’d go back to what I said originally…. let it be in our individual account preferences.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#16 posted 1786 days ago

I use the pulse page too … it has several variables available for filtering. I personally keep mine set to my watch list. That way it is filtered to my buddies list and what ever I choose to watch.
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I do keep a fairly big buddies list. when I want to see projects … which is my favorite, I click the projects button

-- keeping myself entertained ... Humor and fun lubricate the brain

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#17 posted 1786 days ago

Actually how Karson is doing is more importain to me that another purpleheart push stick, but to each his own.

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#18 posted 1786 days ago

Dennis – I never said anything about never looking at it.

Looking at is once a day (When I wanted to) would be enough for me to find about and keep up on those personal type of things.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#19 posted 1786 days ago

I sort-a-kind-of-in-a-way agree with GaryK here.

I explain. I actually don’t use the site itself by browsing it but I receive all the RSS feeds directly in my Mail.app inbox. I scan through the titles and authors and then decide what to read and what not. But… and here it comes the part where we agree, I hate having to scroll through dozens of posts daily to find just a few interesting ones.

What I propose then (apart from a user-block button) is that the RSS feeds of the fora would be divided by forum. Nowadays we have three feeds, one for projects, one for blogs and one for forum posts. I’d like to be able to leave those off-topic posts off and that would be possible if we could choose by individual forum too.

On the other hand, me too I’m more worried about Karson than many other things but I expect him to post news on his personal blog rather than the Coffee Lounge.

That’s my two yens worth.

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#20 posted 1786 days ago

PS – I’m also interested in how Karson is doing – but since he’s on my buddy list – I get an instant email telling me that he just posted something , and I can go right ahead and check it out – besides PM’ing him if I so choose to.

besides – I want to also be introduced to NEW threads that I haven’t yet had a chance to “WATCH” or “Add as buddy” ... but I seem to miss on many of those as they are being pushed down the line.

the idea here is not to disallow certain posts – but to help people filter certain aspects of this woodworking site – that are not woodworking related. I think it’s a terrific Idea.

Peace.

Karson – we love you.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#21 posted 1786 days ago

I don’t see the issue here. The coffee lounge is just that. Most woodworkers I know have a sense of humour. I they don’t they can avoid the coffee lounge, it’s a very simple choice. If they would rather keep to things strickly woodworking thats fine.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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#22 posted 1786 days ago

Grumpy – I know you and your sense of humor and I appreciate it (at times :-)).

For people that just use the “Pulse” feature “unfiltered” you get “everything” posted. But you can’t just filter out the coffee lounge section. That’s all I’m suggesting. I would like the option to look when I want to.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#23 posted 1785 days ago

No problems Gary, I understand where you are coming from.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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#24 posted 1785 days ago

I haven’t paid much attention to the changes to LJ lately, but I thought the pulse page used to have a filter on it, so you could not see certain sections, like new profiles, or workshops, etc. I know there was something that we could do to filter out stuff.

-- Tim

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#25 posted 1785 days ago

I don’t use any feeds. I don’t need unlimited email ;-)) I just come to the web page and look at the projects & the forums for new one and occasionaly the review and blogs. I’m not sure where the filter would be, on the fourms page or in the rss feed?

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#26 posted 1785 days ago

If it’s an Optional Choice:

1. Filter it or
2. Do NOT filter it (like it is now).

Take your pick between 1 and 2.

No problem here…

If you like it the way it is now, just don’t Filter it; otherwise, filter it.

No pain or strain…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#27 posted 1785 days ago

I like it as it is …...don’t change it!

-- Life used to be soooo much simpler!!!!

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#28 posted 1785 days ago

Coffee shop!

I can take it, or leave it, but Lumberjocks seems to be doing OK.

So why fix something that works?

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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#29 posted 1785 days ago

I think it’s a good idea. if Martin can do it what would it hurt just another choice for all of us.

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#30 posted 1785 days ago

i vote with gary. I like the rambling threads, but they are in a constant state of updates so I end up seeing a lot of those updates when I could get one bulk update a day. My personal preference is to move the coffee lounge off the frontpage and have it accessible only by clicking on forums, but I don’t think that will be popular. I don’t use things like pulse.

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#31 posted 1785 days ago

I never even noticed the Coffee Lounge until you mentioned it here.

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#32 posted 1785 days ago

by the way—-happy 2 years!!!

-- Matt--Proud LJ since 2007

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#33 posted 1785 days ago

I’m all for a little more filter power. I use the pulse page almost entirely to navigate the site. I miss the ability to filter out workshops. And I would like to have the ability to filter posts to just projects. Having done a long series of blogs that were entirely light and in the humor vein (Where in the World is Ms Debbie P.), I think there is room for “off-topic communication” here. It does help to build a sense of community that helps us stay connected, but it would be good to be able to dial down to just project posts. In the “old days” a project would be on page one or two for a while but in the stream of all subjects; blogs, workshop and folderol of every sort it does become more difficult winnow out the “chaff”.

Just as when I read many woodworking magazines, I know to look at the readers gallery, or the finishing section, lead articles etc. and can make the most of what short time I can spend reading them. If I want to go to the humor page, I can get right to that as well. I certainly see Gary’s point. Maybe a little more filtering within the stream of the pulse page would be redundant given that there are the navigation tabs already, but I think it might be helpful.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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#34 posted 1785 days ago

I’m not against adding filters, but where are you having to do the sifting? On the pulse or RSS feed? I just look for new topics. I don’t sift anything that’s not on my watch list.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#35 posted 1785 days ago

Filters are very handy. It does not matter if you are trying to block something or to find something.
I too miss the ability to search for the workshops. It took me a while but when we could search for the shops not personally viewed, I had checked out every single one. Now I cant do that.

-- http://www.etsy.com/shop/tpursell?ref=si_shop

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#36 posted 1785 days ago

Just realised I have just past my 2 years and 2 weeks – doesent time fly when you are having fun!

I suppose it all depends on how individuals use the LJ site – I certainly could not read every post placed on this site, I would never have any time for working, eating or spendiong time with the family, it is getting so busy now. I personally do not need this type of filter, but have no objections to it being initilized as long as the default is show all posts.

Doesent the Forum Page sort of already have this fillter – the 8 forum topics are listed, where you can select the forum topic you want to view – just do not press the “Coffee lounge Button” or maybe I am missing Gary’s point or type of search he doing

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#37 posted 1785 days ago

Stop your whining … You have 99% of the site for woodworking. We just want to play a little between reading the same old thing over and over.

Yes, Karson is much more important than woodworking.

Dan, Grumpy, and I do get carried away sometimes, but that’s just us. We do keep it here though (except for when we tweak Douglas a little). Sorry if it bothers you so much … Not really.

-- Odie, Confucius say, "He who laughs at one's self is BUTT of joke". http://woodstermangotwood.blogspot.com/ (my funny blog)

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#38 posted 1785 days ago

Odie – So you only want to screw up 1% of it, huh?

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#39 posted 1785 days ago

I don’t think Gary says “don’t have the coffee lounge” ... just the choice to not include it in his updates. (Not that Gary needs me to speak for him).

The “getting carried away” is also what makes this site what it is. Camaraderie at its finest ;)

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#40 posted 1785 days ago

bentlyj – From the Pulse page I always have “All Activity” selected and I don’t get any of the “Profiles”, but if I want to see them I select “Profiles”.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#41 posted 1785 days ago

“Screw up” is your opinion Gary.

Did anyone notice Karson is here ???

-- Odie, Confucius say, "He who laughs at one's self is BUTT of joke". http://woodstermangotwood.blogspot.com/ (my funny blog)

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#42 posted 1785 days ago

I also think we all need to take a look at whether or not we are using the site’s current capabilities in the way that best suits our own preferences. For example, I just figured out fairly recently that my experience is much improved by using the pulse page like Dan, to show my watchlist.

Another example, Douglas said above that he uses the pulse page exclusively, but would like the ability to filter posts to just new projects. Douglas, if you’re reading this… why not just go to the project page?

It’s great that we have over 10,000 members now, but there is one small downside… I used to be able to keep up with everything posted on the site. That would be a full-time job these days.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#43 posted 1785 days ago

some times I feel like a nut ..
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some times I don’t
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<grinnzzz>

-- keeping myself entertained ... Humor and fun lubricate the brain

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#44 posted 1785 days ago

Gary, why don’t you pm martin about this, instead of just taking a beating from the coffe lounge guys? I’d like the ability to filter the pulse page also. I don’t come here to shoot the breeze as much as I am here for woodworking, so it would be nice to see what was up with all the new posts without the jokes taking up space.

-- Julian, Park Forest, IL

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#45 posted 1785 days ago

Gary mentioned this is on the Feed Back Forum, so I’m sure Martin has got his brain in gear,

& trying to solve this situation.

He usually does the right thing. I have confidence in him.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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#46 posted 1785 days ago

I think it’s good Gary posted it here in the open as opposed to a PM – here we are able to share his idea, and support that concept as opposed to a PM where it’s 1 person’s opinion.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#47 posted 1785 days ago

I use the lounge sometimes myself but, I can see that if someone doesn’t want to look at it they can filter it out to make it easier for them. Then they can look at it when they choose. I don’t see a problem with a filter choice.

-- Bob K. East Northport, NY

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#48 posted 1785 days ago

Sorry, but I really don’t understand how anyone can complain about anything on this site since it’s free!!!!!!
Even for woodworker’s, it would be a sad boring world if all we had to talk about was woodworking.

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#49 posted 1785 days ago

calm down, nobody said anything about NOT allowing anything here…. the only thing that was suggested was a way to filter certain forums that are not in direct line with woodworking thats all – while still being able to post there, and read those posts… but some people mostly use this site for woodworking material and discussions (it’s LUMBERjocks after all).

this is not a complaint either – it’s a suggestion for improvement that might keep some people coming back to this site more often as they are less pushed away by all the sifting through threads.

I’m amazed how people always flame against change… without giving it the benefit of the doubt, or opening their minds to it’s possibilities. for some people when people hear “change” they jump up and down thinking that it’s all going to end soon. sheeesh… lol

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#50 posted 1785 days ago

^^^ Exactly I agree with Built2Last^^^ , There are too many whiners around here . This site is fine just the way it is .

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