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what to do with ipe

by sausageking1
posted 05-07-2014 11:31 AM


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TravisH

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#1 posted 05-07-2014 11:38 AM

If you aren’t going to use it all, could look at boxing up shorts in a USPS box and selling it off.

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Mark Davisson

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#2 posted 05-07-2014 12:29 PM

The 6 6X32 pieces could make a top for an outdoor table. The top would be 36X32 if you use them all. That might work for a low(ish) outdoor coffee table. For a higher side table you might want to scale the size back some.

-- I'm selfless because it feels so good!

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EastLake

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#3 posted 05-07-2014 01:26 PM

Ipe is great for outdoor furniture, but all screw construction. If you have enough, a couple of patio end tables with a reclaimed rustic top? Sounds like you got enough for at least 1 foot stool to go with an adirondack chair.

-- Mark, Western New York, East Lake Woodcraft

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Buckethead

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#4 posted 05-07-2014 01:47 PM

Yes on screw construction. Countersink them then add dowels.

Does the Ipe have a groove in the edge? If so, you can use blind fasteners.

If not, you can make a groove in the edge with a biscuit jointer. They aren’t cheap, and you probably couldn’t get just a handful… Except … Wait for it… It should be somewhat obvious that I have some. PM me and I can send em to you. You pay shipping.

All that said, using plugs is legit, and it looks just like a dowel in the finish. It actually is a nice accent. Just lay them out on even intervals and in a straight line across the entire surface. I go with went one inch in from the edge on my most recent project (in locations where two scres/plugs per framing member were needed).

I have some scrap, and intend to make a couple moulding planes with it. Perhaps a bench plane, for the experience.

A couple other ideas:


Ipe is noted for movement, but it sounds like your longest piece is only 36 inches. Not a huge concern here.

It really is beautiful wood. Don’t breathe the dust.

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Mark Kornell

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#5 posted 05-07-2014 02:27 PM

Just for kicks, try burning a piece…

-- Mark Kornell, Kornell Wood Design

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Woodknack

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#6 posted 05-07-2014 03:13 PM

Make a mallet

Click for details

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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JAAune

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#7 posted 05-07-2014 06:37 PM

When I first saw the title of this topic I thought it read, “What to do with pie”.

Looks like everyone else already gave good answers regarding the real question but if anyone is uncertain about appropriate uses for pie, just send the pastries along to me and I’ll take care of the problem.

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Clint Searl

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#8 posted 05-07-2014 06:52 PM

You could build a really tiny deck.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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sausageking1

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#9 posted 05-07-2014 09:41 PM

Great feedback guys….I gather from the response that gluing is out of the question? I like the mallet idea…as for the tiny deck idea…cool….but I’d have to keep it a secret. ....wouldn’t want everyone to know I have a tiny deck! (However…I heard that if you trim the bushes around your deck it looks bigger. ...)

-- "The difficult I can do right away. .....the impossible will take a little longer! "

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gfadvm

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#10 posted 05-07-2014 10:00 PM

I have made several boxes from Ipe and glued them up with Titebond II with no subsequent problems. Used both splined miters and box joints. As far as finishing, it is open grained (like oak) but I filled the grain with Timbermate and it finished beautifully!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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JAAune

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#11 posted 05-07-2014 10:06 PM

Some people report problems gluing ipe, some don’t. One possible issue could be that the name “ipe” is used for several species of wood and isn’t actually a species of its own. This could be why glue works for some people then fails for another.

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Woodknack

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#12 posted 05-08-2014 02:14 AM

gluing is out of the question?

I certainly didn’t screw that mallet together ;)

http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/ipe/

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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Buckethead

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#13 posted 05-08-2014 02:54 AM

I’ve heard mixed reports on gluing. Those who claim success generally add that they had used acetone or other solvent to clean the Ipe prior to gluing.

I have seen it glued in photos, and have recently glued some in the wild, to find out for myself. Time will tell. (I did use the acetone wipe down method, and the foaming gorilla glue. That stuff is messy. I have heard Titebond III works well if the surface is cleaned with solvent)

All hearsay. My experiment is just a couple weeks old. A year is what I’ve heard is the failure point for glues on Ipe.

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mantwi

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#14 posted 05-08-2014 03:54 AM

It glues up fine if you use a solvent to remove the oil the wood produces from the surfaces. It is hard and so heavy it sinks like a stone if dropped in water. Ipe is pretty stable once it’s fully dried, shrinkage of boards that haven’t been properly acclimated is the only issue. It’s so dense it doesn’t absorb moisture from the air like many woods so seasonal movement isn’t a problem. It finishes well but you need to use a good sealer to lock in the oils that will cause most finishes to bubble and peel. It’s a difficult wood to work with but once a project is completed it’s as durable as concrete. Have fun and have some extra blades on hand, you’ll need them.

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EPJartisan

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#15 posted 05-08-2014 01:31 PM

I use Ipe for my table saw sleds and fence, all finished with coat of wipe on poly… once dry.. very stable and reliable .. as long as the environment is stable and reliable. Outdoors is different story.

-- " 'Truth' is like a beautiful flower, unique to each plant and to the season it blossoms ... 'Fact' is the root and leaf, allowing the plant grow and bloom again."

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abie

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#16 posted 05-08-2014 02:15 PM

Don’t make a mallet unles you want it to slowly come apart like mine.
I used epoxy and dovetailed it to maple.

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still after a year it is coming apart on the seams.

-- Bruce. a mind is like a book it is only useful when open.

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Woodknack

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#17 posted 05-08-2014 03:37 PM

Well I hope mine doesn’t come apart.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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Dan P

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#18 posted 05-08-2014 03:42 PM

System 3 G-2 epoxy is designed for oily wood such as Ipe. Bow makers etc use it.

-- Daniel P

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Ingjr

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#19 posted 05-08-2014 08:28 PM

I’ve used and glued a number of different projects with Ipe. Never had a glue failure and never wiped any of the pieces with acetone or similar either. Titebond II and TB III.

-- The older I get the faster I was.

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SCOTSMAN

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#20 posted 05-08-2014 08:48 PM

I don’t have any idea what IPE is.However I was given aload of hardwood cutt offs of decking.It was quite unusual stuff,that is from the decking they normally sell,It came in lengths of about thirty six inches long,by about four inches wide, by one and a half thick all aproximately.
I ran it all through the thicknesser and ended up with some really sturdy nice wooden boards .
I eventually found an old church bookcase in an antique book of furniture .
It is an open type with trough mortices which are pinned with wedges which are also wood (like a knock down design).
It has pointed sides like a church spire at the both sides it turned out great and was quickly snapped up by my eldest son.I hope this has given you some inspiration or helped in some small way, have fun and make something nice. Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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