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Does it matter which side of the tablesaw a Router table Ext can be placed?

by Blackie_
posted 05-04-2014 04:04 PM


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cabmaker

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#1 posted 05-04-2014 04:58 PM

If I were installing a router wing it would definately be on the port side sir.

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DocSavage45

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#2 posted 05-04-2014 05:05 PM

Randy,

I’m experiencing a space problem as well. Is it a commercial router table or one you will be building? Will it have a lift? There are a number of saw tables on LJ’s.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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NiteWalker

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#3 posted 05-04-2014 05:09 PM

It doesn’t really matter.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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Blackie_

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#4 posted 05-04-2014 05:10 PM

So Tom, it all depends on the type of router table be it installed on the right or left side? I’m prob going to purchase a commercial.

If what Cabmaker is suggesting port side, I’m standing on the saw end of the tablesaw ready to make a cut then the port side would be to the left of the blade, if we are on the same page then that would work, as I have the starboard side up against the wall.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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Blackie_

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#5 posted 05-04-2014 05:13 PM

All of the images I’m seeing on google are showing the extension to be on the fence side of the table saw, that’s the side I have up against the wall which would not work for me.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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Blackie_

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#6 posted 05-04-2014 05:14 PM

OK thanks Nitewalker, I just saw an image where it was on the blade side and not the fence side.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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DocSavage45

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#7 posted 05-04-2014 05:18 PM

Randy,

I have considered putting a router in an outfeed table attached to the rear fence rail. I’m guessing you want something that serves more than one purpose?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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Gene Howe

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#8 posted 05-04-2014 05:23 PM

Since my router table extension is, in reality, a table saw extension and because I seem to have my work on the right side of the blade (fence is there) the router is on the right. But then, my fence doubles as the router fence.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#9 posted 05-04-2014 05:31 PM

randy, it will work on either side, as some have said, it is a nice feature to be able to use your table fence for your router fence, but it will work on either side.

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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Blackie_

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#10 posted 05-04-2014 05:53 PM

OK fence side of my table saw is out of play as mentioned it’s stationed up against the wall on that side, saying that I do have more mounting area on that side more open railing to tie onto.

Here is my table saw in question which has been long discontinued.

Hitachi C10FL table saw

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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Jim Jakosh

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#11 posted 05-04-2014 06:45 PM

Hi Randy. It does not matter what side you support a big sheet on but I think I’d prefer the left side. In a small shop you might consider a support the folds down out of the way when not needed. I built one for the back of my table saw as an out feed table but I pull the saw out and flip it up when it need to. it is supported with one bar that breaks in 2 and swings out of the way.. I made a half lap joint on a round piece of wood and I slide a piece of pvc down over the joint to keep it straight. I can send you a picture if you like!. It is the best thing I did on that saw!

Cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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DocSavage45

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#12 posted 05-04-2014 06:49 PM

Randy,

I guess I’d like to see the saw in your shop? But in my case I am considering attaching it to be back rail as an outfeed table. You my friend are in the box business, and may not have enough time to build it? I would take some time to figure out what the flow would be once I have attached IT?

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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DocSavage45

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#13 posted 05-04-2014 06:51 PM

Jim was posting the same time as I was. It serves his needs, and shop workflow.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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Blackie_

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#14 posted 05-04-2014 07:34 PM

I removed my edit in at the top as I don’t guess it would hurt for me to go ahead as planed, I’ll always have the bench top option as a backup.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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Blackie_

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#15 posted 05-04-2014 07:37 PM

Tom if you go to my profile and view my workshop and click on the pictures under my picture to expand them I believe it’s the 4th picture in the viewer shows how I have the saw setup in the shop.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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DocSavage45

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#16 posted 05-04-2014 08:07 PM

LOL! Is that a HF sander?

Nothing is in stone in the shop? always a changing organic thing. You could remove the left extension and put in the router, as you still have some space due to the rails?

Your workspace is efficient.

Couldn’t get away with the concrete blocks here as the ground heaves with the freeze!

I’m thinking Jim’s idea might work here and you can route the extension groves. Wood Wisperer has a video on YouTube for building an out feed table.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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DocSavage45

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#17 posted 05-04-2014 08:08 PM

Got to get out and get some maintenance work done.

later.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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Blackie_

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#18 posted 05-04-2014 08:12 PM

Yes Tom it is a HF sander and also the last thing I’ll ever buy from them with exceptions depending on what it is.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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Blackie_

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#19 posted 05-04-2014 08:14 PM

Jim A picture would be nice, thanks

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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DocSavage45

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#20 posted 05-04-2014 08:51 PM

FYI,

Have the sander. LOL!

Got a few minutes here is the outfeed build.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq9JWPgXwtc

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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Richard H

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#21 posted 05-04-2014 09:05 PM

I have one of those cast iron router extension wings on the left side of my blade that replaced the factory extension wing and it works pretty well although once I get a little more space I’m going to take it off and build a dedicated cabinet for it. The upside is that I can use the full length of my table saw fence up to something like 48” where when I had one on the right I only got something like 12” of fence space. You don’t need more than 12” or so of router fence very often but once it awhile it’s nice to have. The downside is you have to lower the router cutter every time you want to use the table saw and almost anytime you are routing anything other than edge profiles where when I had one on the right I could usually leave the saw and router setup as they didn’t get in each others way except for working with large pieces. The other advantage to having it on the left is I can move around and work on the router facing the fence which is nice sometimes when routing profiles on curved pieces. One note of caution, you might have to build some form of support on the left or the wing will sag where on the right it’s supported by the extension wing and fence rails.

Overall if you don’t mind having to lower the blade and router bit every time you want to use the other tool on the left seems more useful to me. Ultimately though I want a dedicated router station so I don’t have to fuss when changing blade or bit settings to switch tools and for better dust collection options.

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Blackie_

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#22 posted 05-04-2014 10:50 PM

Thanks Richard, all of my table saw usage is small boards, never any big sheets of ply etc… I’m a box builder, I just ordered the MLCS extension only not the metal one, thanks for the suggestion of supporting legs for the left side sag.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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JayBarnes

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#23 posted 05-04-2014 11:09 PM

I think the correct answer is one on each side :)

Jay

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Blackie_

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#24 posted 05-04-2014 11:15 PM

I only wish I had two of everything. :)

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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#25 posted 05-04-2014 11:23 PM

I have a Bench Dog CI router table installed on the left side of my TS and it works well for me. I allows me to have 25” of table surface to the left of the blade and I have 40” on the right of the blade.

My cut-off sled lives on the left of the blade.

-- if it ain't broke, you're not tryin'

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MT_Stringer

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#26 posted 05-04-2014 11:46 PM

My router table wing is on the right side of the saw. It would be great if it were on the left side. In fact it would be perfect because of my cramped work area. However, it can’t be because the motor housing extend out under the table. No physical way.

I do have a second table I set up for temporary routing operations. And the answer is yes, two routers are better than one! :-)

Grizzly 1023RLW

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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Roger

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#27 posted 05-05-2014 11:59 AM

Either side would work, imo. Just make sure your router plate is level with your saw table.

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Keep your dust collector fed. Kentuk55@yahoo.com

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Tooch

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#28 posted 05-05-2014 12:17 PM

Randy, I don’t think it matters Where you put the extension, but for most people it makes sense to put it on the right side of the blade.

When “safely” making a rip cut on the table saw, the majority of people stand to the left of the blade in order to keep pressure against the TS fence and push the stock forward. for that reason, its good to leave the left side open in order to walk around and retrieve the stock (you don’t want to cross the path of the moving blade, even if its slowing down).

In addition, most Tablesaws have their extension wings on the right side of the blade, so it makes sense to utilize that space for both. In your case, however, with that wing up against the wall, it wouldn’t work. how about flipping your TS 180 degrees?

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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aussiedave

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#29 posted 05-05-2014 12:38 PM

Hey Randy, my router is on the left of my table saw and it is great. I have the Incra fence system so I have one set of stops for the fence to be used on the table saw and another set of stops set to use the fence for the router. Plus I built two book cases out of veneered ply and was able to leave one sheet of 4’x8’ sheet whole and slide the incra fence from the router position to the table saw setting and rout all the grooves for the shelves. Routing half the slots for the shelves then spinning the sheet and routing the other slots for shelves. Then ran the full sheet through the saw cutting the sides all to width. saved me making a dado jig to do the routing. The furthest I can put the fence from the router bit is 4’5” so I can rout to centre of an 8’sheet then spin it round. You can see my workshop pic of the saw in my profile, pic three shows the saw and router table set up. but like others have mentioned it really does not matter which side it is on, I think it depends where your saw is in your workshop and how much room you have either side as to where you end up placing it.

-- Dave.......If at first you don’t succeed redefine success....

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HorizontalMike

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#30 posted 05-05-2014 01:29 PM

Randy,
Having just had the opportunity to visit with you this past week, and wander through your shop, I am thinking that a TS router extension/wing may make your shop too crowded to move around. Some ideas:

  • Have you thought about a router table that could be lifted up onto your TS and temporally anchored during use? I know that might be a bit high, but thinking out loud here.
  • How about a fold-able 2-legged router table that part of the router tabletop lies on your TS and extends toward the TS operator position while in use? Then the router will have a space to hang below the table proper without raising the overall height that much. This would require more thought in timing equipment due use to multitasking of the 3D space.
  • How about using your finishing shed table top as a router table as well?

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Blackie_

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#31 posted 05-05-2014 02:59 PM

Mike thanks for the suggestions, I actually have the Bench Dog ProTop Contractor that is setup on a stand that I built, it was located in between the Bandsaw and the Workbench up against the wall, I might be able to make some changes in the shop, I’m hoping to make room for that corner laminate counter top that I showed you for my box building, we’ll see.

The drop down table might be an option too.

Tooch, thanks I’ve considered that as well, I’ll have to toy around with some idea’s

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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Blackie_

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#32 posted 05-18-2014 12:42 PM

I’d like everyone to know that I have found a solution to my problem and now actually have the best of both worlds with two router tables, details inside of my blog.

Blog

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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DocSavage45

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#33 posted 05-18-2014 04:32 PM

Randy, I checked it out. Looks like you figured it out. Can’t get messy. LOL! My shop is the only place, (and my client office) that I keep neat and clean. LOL! Best of luck in using the new router station.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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