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Baileigh is ready to give some machines away.....Contest time! Need some ideas...

by Baileigh Inc
posted 02-03-2014 06:36 PM


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CharlesA

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#1 posted 02-03-2014 07:17 PM

My suggestion: A contest where I win.

After that, I would say:
Question: “Why do you enjoy woodworking over the long haul?”
See what are the most interesting answers.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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Baileigh Inc

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#2 posted 02-03-2014 07:17 PM

CharlesA Nice

-- Shane Henderson shenderson@baileighindustrial.com 920-482-3220 http://wood.baileighindustrial.com/

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dahenley

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#3 posted 02-03-2014 07:39 PM

I am a college student where wood working is my hobby and enjoyable, but because of this…. many fancy tools are out of my price range, so if there is a way to make the contest feasible for limited tool people like me, it would be appreciated. (I sure could put that mortiser to use!!!)

-- David Henley

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DIYaholic

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#4 posted 02-03-2014 08:30 PM

Many people do not have the budget for specialized machines (think: thickness planer/sander or lathe), and must make jigs or improvise a way in which to accomplish a task. How about the most creative (&/or absurd) work-around (or jig), for not having the “right” tool/machine for the task at hand. Not necessarily the making of shop-made “machine”, just jigs, attachments and techniques. This would even the playing field by allowing creativity and ingenuity to prevail & not be about how well a shop is equipped. Plus, the submissions could also give others ideas that could be implemented in their shops. (Would that be a “win-win”???)

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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J

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#5 posted 02-04-2014 12:56 AM

Everybody loves a random draw! Well, I don’t actually know that, but I appreciate the 1 entry per household chances behind that type of contest. Why not an essay contest, one page or less. Or making plans and a script for a 22 minute episode of a shop build “widget”...kind of like one of those sponsored shows.

I too could use one of those mortising machines, and who else couldn’t think of a use for a 25” wide spiral head planer.

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copcarcollector

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#6 posted 02-04-2014 01:18 AM

Not everyone can or wants to make a video, and not everyone wants to ‘like’ something on a certain social media site – so I would propose the contest be based on written entries right here on LJs. I like the random draw too, its less flashy but still gets the job done!

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404 - Not Found

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#7 posted 02-04-2014 01:19 AM

Lumberjock Dance Off.

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Fish22

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#8 posted 02-04-2014 01:41 AM

How about a 2×4 challenge. Each person uses 1 construction grade 2×4x8 and designs and builds what they want and posts pictures of it either here or on the Baileigh site. Any joinery method is acceptable and doesn’t have to be from the 2×4 (dowels, biscuits, domino, etc.). Depending on the number of entries, the top 5 or 10 projects are selected and then a random winner is selected. Everyone that enters should receive a shirt, hat or some swag.

I think that the winner should have some say in the prize, for example, if you were giving away a table saw, someone may not need, but would need a jointer, maybe they would pay the difference if any.

-- Bryan, South River, NJ

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CharlesA

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#9 posted 02-04-2014 01:50 AM

I like Fish’s idea, but let’s kick it up a notch. What can you build from a single toothpick?

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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wseand

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#10 posted 02-04-2014 03:03 AM

Fish,
I raise your 2×4 to a 2×8 so we can make something a little more substantial.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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Manitario

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#11 posted 02-04-2014 03:06 AM

My vote would be for Renner’s suggestion

-- Sometimes the creative process requires foul language. -- Charles Neil

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wseand

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#12 posted 02-04-2014 03:15 AM

Dance while balancing on a 2×4.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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Fish22

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#13 posted 02-04-2014 03:16 AM

Bill (Wseand)

Art of negotiation, how about splitting the difference and going with a 2×6. Just messing around, if this is chosen, I don’t have an issue with a 2×4,6,8, whatever the consensus is or what the Baileigh guys select.

-- Bryan, South River, NJ

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GOOD LUCK TO ALL

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#14 posted 02-04-2014 03:16 AM

Pick a number between 1 and 10,000.

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lightcs1776

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#15 posted 02-04-2014 03:21 AM

I think a contest, randomly drawn, sharing folks first favorite tool or budget upgrade and why. For example, it may be that inexpensive jig made out of scrap wood that allows you to sharpen a specific tool or a jig for a table saw that allows a certain cut they make all the time. I have kids, which means I am on a very limited budget. Homemade jigs are great for people like me.

-- Chris ** If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. — Tom Paine **

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Kaleb the Swede

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#16 posted 02-04-2014 03:23 AM

How about the ugliest dude on this site? I definitely have a chance then

-- Just trying to build something beautiful

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#17 posted 02-04-2014 03:31 AM

Fish,
Now your just talking craziness. 2×6 as if.

Either size I like it.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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Armandhammer

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#18 posted 02-04-2014 03:33 AM

Post a pic of your shop. If you already have $1000’s worth of equipment you don’t qualify. Let those of us financially less fortunate get a chance at a nice piece of equipment we’d not otherwise be able to afford. I mean I guess it’s fair for everyone to have an equal chance…but it always seems that people that don’t need something win it. Like the guy that is already well off wins the lottery. Person that owns several cars that are just a couple years old wins a new ride. Fella with a shop full of Jet/Delta/Grizzly/ect. wins a new saw/joiner/planer….

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Sandra

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#19 posted 02-04-2014 03:34 AM

I like Randy’s idea.

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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woodchuckerNJ

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#20 posted 02-04-2014 03:39 AM

Went to the web site, can not really find info on the woodworking machines.
What’s wrong with that? Are you only selling metal working machines?

The web site needs some work.

-- Jeff NJ

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retfr8flyr

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#21 posted 02-04-2014 03:52 AM

I have one Baileigh machine and would love to have more. I think it should be a random draw, so that everyone has an equal chance. Experienced woodworkers probably already have all their equipment but new people starting out would really enjoy the chance.

-- Earl

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CharlesA

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#22 posted 02-04-2014 03:55 AM

Website works for me: http://wood.baileighindustrial.com/

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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summerfi

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#23 posted 02-04-2014 04:12 AM

1. Random draw, but entrants pay $5 per entry. Enter as many times as you like.
2. All entry fee proceeds are donated to provide woodworking tools for underprivileged kids in a school, club, or other organization.
3. The winner wins a machine of their choice plus an all expense paid trip to a national woodworking event.
4. The winner agrees to appear in a commercial or other advertising for Baileigh. The advertisement should feature the school, club, etc. that received the donation.

-- Bob, Missoula, MT -- "Of all the tools I own, my favorite is a good sharp pocket knife." - My Dad

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#24 posted 02-04-2014 05:03 AM

How about the best Norm or Roy impersonation? Take a picture of you doing your best Norm Abram or Roy Underhill and post it. Hybrid woodworkers could be both (or Marc Spagnolo).

That way even people that don’t have much experience or much of a shop have a chance of winning toys for their shop. Should be fun for all.

-- Karen - a little bit of stupid goes a long way

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coachjohnson

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#25 posted 02-04-2014 05:17 AM

How bout the worst woodworking injury from doing something incredibly stupid on some sub par piece of equipment…not a baileigh piece of equipment…excuse me while I wipe the brown from my nose

-- Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

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KMT

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#26 posted 02-04-2014 06:01 AM

Make sure Canadians are eligible!

-- - Martin

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Greg

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#27 posted 02-04-2014 07:06 AM

I second DIYaholics idea of most ingenious/rediculous work around. would be fun on this forum!

-- You don't have a custom made heirloom fly fishing Net? http://www.Sierra-Nets.com

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exelectrician

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#28 posted 02-04-2014 07:30 AM

DIYaholic has the idea I like the most…. Win, Win for all concerned.

-- Love thy neighbour as thyself

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#29 posted 02-04-2014 08:54 AM

Websites don’t lend themselves to random draws but I like the impersonation suggestion. +1 Karen!

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#30 posted 02-04-2014 12:42 PM

Ask entrants to write a very short “Why I need/want it” essay for each machine they’d like to win. Let all contest entrants vote on favorite essays (one vote per machine) – but final decision left up to Baileigh.

First, that might eliminate giving a tablesaw to someone who already has two. Second, that might provide some insight to the most desirable features of each machine (from both the entrant and the voters). Third, there’s gotta be marketing value in the words written, AND the presentation to someone who actually will USE the product.

Me, I’d like the tilting mortiser, ‘cause I’m too lazy to set up the drill press every time.

Hey, Baileigh, why doesn’t the website celebrate the fact that you’re an American manufacturer? I WOULD like to know more about the source of your raw materials, but just the fact that engineering, assembly and distribution are American is a big deal to me.

-- Jim Maher, Illinois

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#31 posted 02-04-2014 12:54 PM

I like the idea of jigs and workarounds.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#32 posted 02-04-2014 01:23 PM

I second the FIX THE WEBSITE call. wouldn’t let me input my address.
so right now, you couldn’t even give away a catalog.

-- Junior -Quality is never an accident-it is the reward for the effort involved.

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gfadvm

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#33 posted 02-04-2014 01:44 PM

I vote for Randy’s (DIYaholic) idea.

We have some very clever innovators around here!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#34 posted 02-04-2014 02:00 PM

There are quite a few votes for the idea I like, Randy’s. “This Would Be So Much Easier With Proper Baileigh Tools.” The contestant builds something using their less than adequate tooling showing the difficulties and work-arounds and illustrating the point of using the proper tool for the job. I agree with a post above in the entrant being able to choose the prize but think that the choice should be made at the time of entry. Then a raffle of each category of qualified entry’s. One entry per name only.

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Armandhammer

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#35 posted 02-04-2014 03:39 PM

The jig and work around idea is cool, but some of us…me at least, are new to woodworking and don’t really have tools to begin with to work around or to make jigs. And even though I intend to be primarily a hand tool woodworker…a nice bandsaw would be incredibly useful I think. Unfortunately, I can’t afford one.

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#36 posted 02-04-2014 03:47 PM

Thanks CharlesA, that’s because you used wood. The poster used metal. And there is no way of getting to wood from just Baileigh… very poor. Again, the website is not very good…

But now I have a link to the wood side.

-- Jeff NJ

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#37 posted 02-04-2014 03:53 PM

A jig or work around idea usually comes with experience, new guys usually get those from the more experienced people.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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jap

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#38 posted 02-04-2014 04:07 PM

The more prizes, the better!
Everybody agree?

-- Joel

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Baileigh Inc

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#39 posted 02-04-2014 04:09 PM

woodchuckerNJ The link is in the upper left hand corner

-- Shane Henderson shenderson@baileighindustrial.com 920-482-3220 http://wood.baileighindustrial.com/

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404 - Not Found

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#40 posted 02-04-2014 04:13 PM

Seriously now guys, although I would love to see a webcam dance off between DKV and Horizontal Mike, I think you would gain a huge amount of respect from Lumberjock members if you crated up that saw and sent it to Monte Pittman who lost everything in his shop to fire about 2 weeks ago. That would be my vote anyway.

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#41 posted 02-04-2014 04:45 PM

Ask why you are giving these away and pick the best answer.

-- earthartandfoods.com

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#42 posted 02-04-2014 05:05 PM

”....why you are giving these away?....”

Marketing & Promotion….
Testimonials & Reviews….
Shane, Aaron & everyone at Baileigh are GREAT people!!!
Shane, Aaron & everyone at Baileigh are Angels, earning their wings, from the WW Gods!!!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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#43 posted 02-04-2014 05:37 PM

10 Day contest – who can build the most thoughtful Valentine’s day gift for their significant other.

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#44 posted 02-04-2014 05:39 PM

Baileigh:

I think it’s great what you’re doing – Please do it on your own website, and leave Lumberjocks as a Forum for the users, not the Advertisers.

I think it’s grossly misleading to post pictures of the beautiful woodwork on a boat, and none of it was done using Baileigh equipment: what are you marketing? It’s similar to posing a naked woman on a car – and the car being a Yugo.

But why am I complaining – this is not my site, and there seems to be 30-odd users interested in your raffle – something free, we should all be interested. For me, it’s just that I’ve seen too much marginal reverse-engineered equipment passed off on woodworkers – amidst the marketing hype and fresh paint, “Where’s the Beef”.

MJCD

-- Lead By Example; Make a Difference

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Rick M.

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#45 posted 02-04-2014 06:00 PM

MJ that’s pretty harsh. I would never say that about anyone’s product unless I was prepared to back it up.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#46 posted 02-04-2014 06:03 PM

The problem, MJ, is that the folks who run the site have allowed for this—not your place to tell them to leave. If you don’t like it, don’t click.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#47 posted 02-04-2014 06:08 PM

I think it’s great that Baileigh offers to run a contest. Why not have some fun and give somebody the chance to win a nice upgrade for their shop.

When they first started participating on LJs they sent out hats. I got one and it’s a really nice hat that I like a lot.

Thanks Baileigh!

Matt

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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#48 posted 02-04-2014 06:18 PM

Baileigh is NOT spamming….
They are helping to further the comradeship of the community!!!
We all get to have some fun, someone wins a tool gloat….
They earn some goodwill & my respect!!!

Thanks, Baileigh!!!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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#49 posted 02-04-2014 06:22 PM

We really want to stay away from a blind drawing. We have done them on other forums and feel the forum as a whole benefits from a friendly competition where people share tips and tricks to try and win.

-- Shane Henderson shenderson@baileighindustrial.com 920-482-3220 http://wood.baileighindustrial.com/

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casual1carpenter

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#50 posted 02-04-2014 06:35 PM

A jig or work around idea for stationary power equipment is used everyday by the serious hand tooler and entry level people who have limited or no major power tools. Carpentry and woodworking have been around since before recorded history. A case in point, I own a chisel that I can sharpen so I could theoretically cut a mortice. So I could attempt something like Darrell Peart’s wonderful G&G work. Not if my life depended on it, not by hand and truthfully not with the best proper tools, but the proper power tooling sure would help in my case.

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