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Woodshop Disaster Today.

by twoblacklabs
posted 12-09-2013 10:18 PM

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#1 posted 12-09-2013 10:25 PM

Wow that SUCKS. I would cry if that happened to me. I’m glad you’re ok but DANG. What a crappy thing.
Looks like your maple and purpleheart glueup survived tho.
As a side note, I have the same drill as you.

-- "MOM! I think there's something under our house! I'm gonna need a jackhammer, a fish bowl, some air tanks, and maybe a few pipes."

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#2 posted 12-09-2013 10:31 PM

Bummer! Sorry to hear that!

-- "Do or Do not. There is no try." - Yoda

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#3 posted 12-09-2013 10:31 PM

Oh man, I’m so sorry that happened.

-- - Billy

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#4 posted 12-09-2013 10:46 PM

Bet your insurance guy is gonna have a field day with that claim.
Glad you’re not injured more.


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#5 posted 12-09-2013 10:46 PM

Oh man, looks bad. Glad you’re not hurt, you can rebuild, it will even be better when you do. Painful right now, I’m sure.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#6 posted 12-09-2013 10:49 PM

Insured i hope. Home owners policy?

Too bad that wasn’t a Chevy. Would have stalled out on the garage doors.

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#7 posted 12-09-2013 10:50 PM

Dang, that really sucks. Glad to hear you’re okay though. Think I’d definitely be filing a claim on this one; question is, is it an auto claim or a homeowner’s claim? Hmm…

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#8 posted 12-09-2013 10:51 PM

SUCKS BAD….Glad you’re ok.

Hope you have good insurance….Bondo is right though, once the bummer of it all wears off think how much fun it will be to build it better.

-- Just a man and his opinion.

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#9 posted 12-09-2013 10:57 PM

Glad you were not seriously injured. As you say, you replace tools and rebuild your shop. Good luck and be safe.

-- John, BC, Canada

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#10 posted 12-09-2013 11:01 PM

seeing this
is harder than being forced to watch jerry springer

glad you are ok

hope for a good resolve
and some upgrade too

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#11 posted 12-09-2013 11:04 PM

On a positive note, looks like your glue up survived! :)

Good luck with insurance and enjoy the new tools.

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#12 posted 12-09-2013 11:07 PM

This was A GOOD DAY! It was a good day because you were not seriouly hurt. Everything else is meanigless.

Best thing to do on days like this is get in the house, kiss your wife, hug your kids, pet your dog and go call your insurance agent.

Between your car insurance and homeowner’s insurance, it will all get sorted out!

-- ok, is it cut once measure twice, cut twice measure once???? I know....I'll just keep cutting until it's long enough.

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#13 posted 12-09-2013 11:18 PM

Crank49 That made laugh out loudly. Thanks. I really needed that.

Yes, insured. Not bothering to claim auto insurance as the deductible is greater than the truck is worth. 240,000 (‘ish) miles.

Screw it. I’m going out to play a poker game. Can only lose $20 so what the hell. Gotta get out of here. Can’t begin rebuild/repairs until after adjuster shows up. It’s boarded up for now.

So frustrated.

-- If You Haven't Got the Time to Do It Right, When Will You Find the Time to Do It Over?

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#14 posted 12-09-2013 11:28 PM

Sorry to hear about your shop. You’re right, at least you are not seriously hurt and things can be replaced.

-- Chris ** If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. — Tom Paine **

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#15 posted 12-09-2013 11:32 PM

Glad your ok, poker and a 12oz adult beverige should ease the pain.

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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#16 posted 12-09-2013 11:40 PM

So, so sorry to see this. Ouch!

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#17 posted 12-09-2013 11:42 PM

Glad you are ok. I feel your pain. My garage door has a large dent and bow in it from my truck hitting it. I will, from now on, always get into my truck seat before starting, mine was in gear, in the garage, when it was cranked, truck lunges backward almost taking my garage door with it. Lesson learned i guess. Replace what you can, fix what everything thing else. Days like this, you just gotta have a cold one.

-- Wisconsin Wildcat

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#18 posted 12-09-2013 11:47 PM

Whew, that was a close one, almost got your glue up. You were lucky!!

(sorry about the rest of the stuff)

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#19 posted 12-09-2013 11:49 PM

Hey, are those Harbor Freight clamps on that glue-up??

Tougher than an F-150.

Those Harbor Freight “haters” will not like seeing that…........................

-- mike...............

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#20 posted 12-10-2013 12:02 AM

Wow that’s so bad, I’m glad your ok. Even though it wiped out your shop no one was seriously hurt. You can probably file a claim from your auto and home insurance and make like new again.

-- wood crafting & woodworking classes

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#21 posted 12-10-2013 01:40 AM

Holy crap.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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#22 posted 12-10-2013 02:13 AM

Glad you didn’t get run over, I’ve come close to having a similar experience with my truck. You must have the 300cid I-6 in that truck, I think those are bulldozer engines!

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#23 posted 12-10-2013 02:15 AM

Like you said, you’ve seen enough to know you were lucky. Tools can be replaced. Trucks can be fixed. I’ve seen a lot of people put cars in houses. Last year we had a lady who decided to let her young son pull her car in the garage. He proceeded to bury his mother in a refrigerator that was in front of the car. Luckily she only broke her hip. We also had a guy backing a boat into the garage and being directed by his wife. Foot hit the gas instead of brake. Just missed the wife, but put the boat completely in the dining room of the house. Destroyed the dining room table. Thanks for sharing. If I were closer I would come help you clean up.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#24 posted 12-10-2013 05:39 AM

It good that YOU are OK; it could have been much much worse if you had been tangled up not being able to get out!

NICE that insurance covers it on the Shop n all… a lot of work ahead… insurance covers Labor involved?

Oh, if it had been a Toyota Tundra, it would have kept on going through the other wall & would still be going somewhere! LOL :) (the one that towed the Shuttle)

Hope you had a nice time relaxing & playing poker… and won! :)

You really have a mess to clean-up.

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: ... My Small Gallery:"

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#25 posted 12-10-2013 05:49 AM

How many times did your parents and teachers tell you never to leave your truck parked and aimed at your tools?

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#26 posted 12-10-2013 02:05 PM

New day.

Man am I sore where I hit the ground. Surprisingly so.

Thanks for all of the sympathy and support. Knew I could count you this community to understand. It’s killing me to wait for the adjuster to show up. Going to take a ton more pics and start on the back wall. I have the day off and work the next 2. Sitting in this house by myself (when I had planned on being busy in the shop) is torture.

As for poker, took 4th in a tournament. Made some $$$. Was really looking forward to 1st place money as that combined with insurance money would have put me into UniSaw replacement territory. But after yesterday, I’m not complaining about anything that was a positive note!

-- If You Haven't Got the Time to Do It Right, When Will You Find the Time to Do It Over?

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#27 posted 12-10-2013 03:11 PM

This really makes me sick. I would hate to see this happen to anyone and I can’t believe the damage. I hope that the insurance adjuster is kind and gives you a good deal. On the bright side it sounds like you weren’t injured severely and it didn’t cause an electrical fire. I hope that you feel better in a couple of days and that your insurance company gives you fair and quick service so that you can get up and running in no time.

helluvawreck aka Charles

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#28 posted 12-10-2013 03:41 PM

Sorry to hear about your shop. Glad to hear your alright.

Doing that hundreds of times you where lucking, this time so lucky. No excuss for cutting safety.

Tomorrow is the reward for working safe today.

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#29 posted 12-10-2013 03:55 PM

Ouch!!!!!! I almost did that when I backed up my truck to unload some wood. Got distracted and got out of my truck with it in gear! I was able to stop it inches before it went through the shop door.

-- Todd, Huntsville, AL

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#30 posted 12-10-2013 04:22 PM

WOW! that was a lot of damage! Sorry man… i’m surprised your last project was still clamped up. Well your not hurt, but a lot of clean up to do now. but maybe you can look at it as a redecorating time. You have to make up a reason to move forward. I get depressed just viewing these pictures.
Hey a chance to post remodel pictures…

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#31 posted 12-10-2013 05:19 PM

You wanna know what impresses the hell outta me????

I have been watching this thread since it first hit yesterday.

And, NOT ONE poster has chimed in about “safety”, and this “never would have happened if you had blag blah blah”

Everyone knows that HE knows he screwed up.

We ALL do crap like this all the time. Shortcuts.

EVERY SINGLE ONE of the posts have been empathetic, sympathetic and supportive.

Now, THAT impresses the hell out of me.

What great people on here.

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#32 posted 12-10-2013 05:41 PM

I’m impressed also and frankly I am grateful. Around here, there are exactly 3 people who drive my truck. I specifically have preached over and over to never leave it in gear UNLESS it happens to be parked on a hill. Which are not exactly common place locally. (Fort Wayne, IN is pretty flat). Set parking brake, turn it off. That’s it.

Those 3 people are myself, the Mrs., and my father in law. The FIL notoriously leaves it in gear as he has lived in PA all but 2 years of his life (lived here for the past 2 years). Lots of hills and mountains where he is from but he moved back to PA 2 months ago. He also taught the Mrs. to always put a manual transmission in gear when turned off, as a teen. However, the Mrs. has been really good about not doing it. Maybe three times in 18 years? The preaching “don’t ever leave it in gear” would only come up when the FIL had actually left it in gear.

The Mrs. had used the truck the day before and left it in gear. I am not mad at her however and have tried to reassure her of this. Ultimately, it is my responsibility despite my efforts to teach all who drive it to never leave it in gear.

The insurance adjuster won’t be here unto at least Thursday, a day I’m scheduled to work. Trying to take off so the ball can get rolling. He can’t be here again until late next week. In the meantime, I’ve been asked to not do anymore work.

Absolutely killing me to sit here on my day off and not be fixing stuff! UGHHHHH!!!!!!

-- If You Haven't Got the Time to Do It Right, When Will You Find the Time to Do It Over?

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#33 posted 12-10-2013 06:31 PM

What a horrible tragedy. That’s a lot of loss at one time. Glad you’re OK. Hope you get it all back together soon.

-- Vicki on the Eastern Shore of MD

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#34 posted 12-10-2013 06:43 PM

Wow! That just hurts to even look at, but as mentioned over and over, glad to hear you are ok. Now, if your shop was in the basement like mine, think about how how THAT conversation would go with the insurance agent!

-- Mike - Waukesha, WI

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#35 posted 12-10-2013 07:08 PM

Ouch, sorry to see all that mess. But you are ok, and the missus can’t complain too much about upgraded tools.

peace, T

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#36 posted 12-10-2013 08:27 PM

Too bad that wasn’t a Chevy. Would have stalled out on the garage doors HEY….I heard that!! LOL – GM owner :o)

Auto ins. will take care of the truck damage, and Home Owner Policy will take care of the building and contents/tools.

Some advice, from someone who knows the insurance biz, get what receipts you have together as the adjuster might ask for them. Put a list of damaged tools/supplies/wood/contents together at CURRENT replacement costs. And include EVERYTHING that is damaged.

Even if you’re going to repair the building yourself, find a name brand contractor to provide you with a repair estimate for the building. Have him prep an estimate that is competitive/in the ball park and inclusive of ALL damage/repairs. So you know, some contractors will pad the he!! out of an estimate just because it’s going to an ins. co. Not necessarily the best way to go as all it will do is pizz them off, and take more time for you to get paid.

All that, when you’re chilled out some LOL Glad you’re ok. “stuff” can be replaced.

-- Bill, central where near the "big apple"

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#37 posted 12-10-2013 09:34 PM

Not filing for auto damage. Only have liability on truck and can’t be liable to myself. The truck has well over 200,000 miles on it with rusted panels. If I have left over cash from settlement, I will fix truck. Otherwise, not really worth it. Before accident, would only be able to get at most, $2000 for truck. $500 deductible. So even if they total it for a max of $2k, 500 comes out of my pocket so would have $1500 to get another vehicle. That’s probably not going to happen.

I wouldn’t try to screw insurance. I simply want to fix the stuff and replace the tools. The more I think about it (since I can’t stop), the more I realize how much damage and replacement costs are. For instance, had my crosscut sled on table saw; busted. 3/4” ply, miter slot for stop block, glue, wood and my time puts that at like $75. Had just built mobile base from oak and angle iron plus hardware. That’s easily $70. Then new router extension wing? $45-55?. Haven’t even started the scroll saw but the tool stand is trashed/mangled. Tore the infeed/outfeed tables off my planer which incidentally had NO snipe. Don’t know if I should claim the planer as a loss or not.

bbc557ci? What would you recommend?

-- If You Haven't Got the Time to Do It Right, When Will You Find the Time to Do It Over?

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#38 posted 12-10-2013 10:10 PM

As I said, include everything that is damaged, in your claim. In regards to the sled, mobile stands, and other things that you made yourself, unfortunately most ins. companies won’t allow the home owner contractor/professional wages to re-make them. So I’d show ask the adjuster if you can price those items “off the shelf”, like from Woodcraft or the like. If he won’t allow that, use material prices from Home Depot or Lowe’s, because Oak and other hardwood, and steel, at those places generally about the highest, at least that’s the way it is here in central NY State. Don’t short yourself.

With the power tools (planer, table saws, whatever) the ins. co. will pay you for those if they are damaged, but might turn around and want to take the damaged stuff for salvage. Allot of people don’t realize it, but the ins. co. will likely sell them back to you, and generally pretty cheap!! If nothing else, they’ll be good for motors, parts, whatever.

Bottom line, be all inclusive. And when you’re pricing things that need to be replaced, be fair and price the stuff for the same kind and quality. If a tool or whatever has been discontinued or no longer available, I’d price that tool for one that’s one jump up on the quality ladder.

-- Bill, central where near the "big apple"

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#39 posted 12-10-2013 11:06 PM

Man that really sucks! Be glad you weren’t driving my F250 4×4 diesel with a huge grill guard. It would have gone right through the whole shop and ended up in the neighbors house!

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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#40 posted 12-10-2013 11:14 PM

Sometimes I wish this would happen to my garage (not my tools) so I could rebuild it anew the way I want (mmmmm poured concrete with radiant heated floors)...glad you’re ok, but on the upside new stuff for you.

-- Nick, “I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it.” – Vincent Van Gogh

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#41 posted 12-11-2013 12:04 AM

“Mamma Said There Would Be Days Like This” but boy, that just plain sucks. Hope insurance comes through. Sorry for the mishap.

-- “We all die. The goal isn't to live forever; the goal is to create something that will.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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#42 posted 12-11-2013 01:09 AM

Really glad to hear that you were not severely injured. Good thing that you didn’t have a wood stove heating the workshop. Hope that all works out to the best positive outcome for you.

-- John, British Columbia, Canada

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#43 posted 12-11-2013 01:26 AM

I shed a tear looking at the pictures.


I just dealt with my insurance company for damage from a water cooler. We had to fire the first contractor because he was out to milk the insurance company. It was insane.

Start a file, make some lists and you have lots of research that you can do before the adjuster gets there.

So….. what expletives did you use???

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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#44 posted 12-11-2013 01:49 AM

My wife hit the garage and due to it’s age and condition the framing was move off the blocks. She felt so bad I got a new 33’x30’ garage with a loft and a bathroom. I hope you come out as good as I did. Good luck on the replacements. My shop is about 20miles to the north of you.

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#45 posted 12-11-2013 02:22 AM

@richardwooten – I am VERY grateful the truck actually stopped. Going through the other side would have just been that much worse. I can’t even imagine it.
@UpStateNY – Very interesting perspective.
@PaulDoug – I hope so also.
@Druid – Thanks. I DO have gas and the furnace was running. It actually didn’t get struck. Furnace was about 9’ away from the wall that was displaced.
@Sandra – There are no Expletives that were not yelled at the top of my lungs.
@woodmaster – I don’t think I’ll end up with a new building but that WOULD be nice. Hate to meet you like this but Howdy neighbor.

The first contractor quote arrived and was more than I anticipated but I’m not an estimator. Frankly, all I want is my tools replaced and the shop up and running. Won’t know anything until Thursday but I’ll make sure to update when I know something.

-- If You Haven't Got the Time to Do It Right, When Will You Find the Time to Do It Over?

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#46 posted 12-11-2013 05:52 AM

I just remembered…

With our 96 Saturn SC2, we have to depress the Clutch before the engine will start…
... don’t know what they do for auto-trans… we have stick-shift.

If the same feature had been on your truck, it would have NEVER happened!

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: ... My Small Gallery:"

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#47 posted 12-11-2013 12:32 PM

I wish it was that simple. Unfortunately the manual transmission was in 1st gear. So when I let off the clutch, it surged then took off like a damn bulldozer.

I obviously didn’t expect it to be in gear as I NEVER leave it in gear.

-- If You Haven't Got the Time to Do It Right, When Will You Find the Time to Do It Over?

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#48 posted 12-11-2013 12:48 PM

Oh, MAN! This is terrible. Very Happy you weren’t hurt. Now you have an opportunity to rebuild – BETTER (grin). Anyway, sorry to hear about this. Again, glad YOU weren’t hurt – except pride. Hang in there.

-- Victor, from the Grand Mesa in Colorado

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#49 posted 12-11-2013 01:08 PM

incredible Bummer! ,,,,oh well ,,,at least insurance will fix the tools and the garage. The important thing is that you did not get seriously hurt. This makes me think, I do exactly what you did all the time. My F250 would walk right through any garage door in front of it. Hard to stall a 351 left in granny gear.Thanks for sharing this, I will be mindfull of it next time.

-- atta boy Clarence!

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#50 posted 12-11-2013 02:06 PM

It is a bummer but also, maybe a good time to make a few shop improvements at little to no cost ;o)

-- Bill, central where near the "big apple"

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