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De-Rusting Process

by MsDebbieP
posted 10-12-2013 10:23 PM


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JoeinGa

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#1 posted 10-12-2013 10:28 PM

Dang! What a difference!

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#2 posted 10-12-2013 10:31 PM

Yes, indeed. The “Ms Molly Brown” is now “Ms Molly Black” :)

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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CanadianWoodChuck

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#3 posted 10-12-2013 10:37 PM

Wow that did a great job on that old kettle.
It was weird because yesterday George over at Woodworkers Guild of America just did a write-up and video on rust removal using electrolysis, and it worked really well too without damaging the old plane.
Here’s a link if you want to check it out.: http://www.wwgoa.com/removing-rust-with-electrolysis/
Bruce

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#4 posted 10-12-2013 10:42 PM

I heard that that is a good strategy. “Electro” .. sends shivers up my spine. I don’t think I’d be brave enough to give it a try… especially now that I have tried this ever-so-easy method.

But, options are good … vinegar; electrolysis; molasses …

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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CanadianWoodChuck

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#5 posted 10-12-2013 10:48 PM

For sure, it’s whatever works and you feel comfortable with. :) Enjoy your pot … that doesn’t sound good does it :)

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#6 posted 10-12-2013 10:50 PM

hahaa well, umm… no. lol
She’s going to just be a conversation piece, due to the pitmarks in the bottom, but she has been the talk of the town this past week!

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#7 posted 10-12-2013 10:55 PM

That’s a great result Deb. Well done!
How big was the cleanup afterwards?.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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#8 posted 10-12-2013 11:02 PM

Clean-up: difficulty? Not much … but then I’m using the molasses mixture for some other cast iron items, now that I know how easy the process was—and that it works.
(And then my neighbour wants to try it on some car parts, so he will be taking it off my hands, I think)

If he doesn’t take it I am going to empty the tub on a patch of sand that has been overtaken by weeds. I’m hoping that the molasses will kill off the weeds without any negative side-effects.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#9 posted 10-12-2013 11:07 PM

Amazing!
Great job.

-- Bert

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#10 posted 10-12-2013 11:08 PM

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#11 posted 10-12-2013 11:09 PM

Hey Deb, don’t waste it.
Make some rum with the left overs. LOL.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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#12 posted 10-12-2013 11:11 PM

4 days? That’s slower than molasses !!

Did you feed the molasses to the cows after? Add a little iron to their diet?

Interesting the food material that will eat rust away.

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#13 posted 10-12-2013 11:18 PM

not sure the fermented, rusty concoction would be very good for consumption.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#14 posted 10-12-2013 11:47 PM

That turned out great. Never would have thought of molasses for rust removal. Yeah the concoction would be good for compost, but maybe not after auto parts went into it.

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#15 posted 10-12-2013 11:48 PM

as for how it works, I found this quote “What happens is there is a fermenting process and the sugars in molasses turns into acid, I am not sure which one but I think it may be lactic acid.”
Source

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#16 posted 10-12-2013 11:50 PM

re: compost, it apparently kills the roots of plants (and thus grass) and any critters/microbes that are in the soil.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#17 posted 10-13-2013 12:15 AM

Debbie,

You sure got EXCELLENT results from the process!

I have never seen that type of Molasses in that big of bag in my life!
... I wouldn’t know how to start to find it… (besides Google) LOL

Sounds like it might be very expensive…

Using Electrolysis isn’t dangerous! Just a 12v battery charger is all it takes…

In this particular case the electrodes for Electrolysis would have to reversed (because the POT wants to be the Subject… and suspend a hunk of iron in the middle for the other electrode… I think it would work good… and the biggest expense would be some Washing Soda and electricity… 12v charger…

Wasn’t that Molasses a little costly?
Where did you get it (kind of store)?

Thank you very much!

Your method worked GREAT… was NEW to me… I learned something!

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#18 posted 10-13-2013 12:28 AM

Very nice job MsDebbie! I had never heard of using molasses. Having use electrolysis on several hand planes, I will be sticking with that for for now… A couple of cups of Washing Soda in an 18gal container, two steel plates on the side and hanging the parts in the center hooked up to a battery charger works for me, as Joe points out.

I am afraid that the molasses concoction would be to popular for all of the wild critters we feed on a regular bases, and our cats would probably be overweight if I left something like that out too long… ;-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#19 posted 10-13-2013 01:08 AM

first of all your chastisement of not always being in a lumberjock mode…:).....and now your kudo’s for doing such a wonderful job, ive never heard of this process, and im so surprised it did so well, ive got a dutch oven that is in almost the same condition, so i guess i shall have to try this method myself, now…its time for a batch of beans, but make sure your outside when the beans are consumed…:)...at least that is how its got to be done in our family….:)

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#20 posted 10-13-2013 01:12 AM

Ms. Deb

I am not sure which one but I think it may be lactic acid

I believe the acid is actually Acetic acid….here’s a helpful link
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetic_acid
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Excellent work removing all that rust !

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#21 posted 10-13-2013 02:08 AM

Great tip. thanks

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#22 posted 10-13-2013 06:56 AM

I got the bag of dried molasses (animal feed grade) at the local feed store.
It cost me $20 and I barely made a dent in it with the 24 cups that I used. I’ll say it was a 10th of the bag but I doubt it was that much.

It is just another option that might come in handy some day…

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#23 posted 10-13-2013 08:59 AM

Beautiful job on the kettle Debbie and it was fun learning about the molasses. Thanks for including the explanation of how it works too. I will have to find something rusty to try it on.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#24 posted 10-13-2013 03:43 PM

Now that’s an interesting method. Results are great. We’ll have to try it when we get some more cast iron.
Thanks Debbie.

-- John, British Columbia, Canada

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#25 posted 10-13-2013 03:44 PM

thanks, re: Acetic acid

thanks stefang.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#26 posted 10-13-2013 04:49 PM

Nice recovery on the pot, any markings on it?

-- Owen, Lethbridge, Alberta

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#27 posted 10-13-2013 05:51 PM

Yes… first, it has the “gate mark” where the metal was poured. It is a line across the bottom.
And there is a .. 9 – 10 ?? Not quite sure.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#28 posted 10-13-2013 11:53 PM

Yes, I’ve used this. It works great, but be quick on oiling afterwards. You can also use Molassass from your grocery store.

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#29 posted 10-14-2013 12:30 AM

yes, the raw metal will start to rust immediately … just wipe it dry and have the oil handy.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#30 posted 10-15-2013 12:08 PM

WowZa, Deb! Awesome!

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#31 posted 10-15-2013 12:11 PM

thanks, Roger.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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