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De-Rusting Process

by MsDebbieP
posted 313 days ago


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JoeinGa

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#1 posted 313 days ago

Dang! What a difference!

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#2 posted 313 days ago

Yes, indeed. The “Ms Molly Brown” is now “Ms Molly Black” :)

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#3 posted 313 days ago

Wow that did a great job on that old kettle.
It was weird because yesterday George over at Woodworkers Guild of America just did a write-up and video on rust removal using electrolysis, and it worked really well too without damaging the old plane.
Here’s a link if you want to check it out.: http://www.wwgoa.com/removing-rust-with-electrolysis/
Bruce

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#4 posted 313 days ago

I heard that that is a good strategy. “Electro” .. sends shivers up my spine. I don’t think I’d be brave enough to give it a try… especially now that I have tried this ever-so-easy method.

But, options are good … vinegar; electrolysis; molasses …

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#5 posted 313 days ago

For sure, it’s whatever works and you feel comfortable with. :) Enjoy your pot … that doesn’t sound good does it :)

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#6 posted 313 days ago

hahaa well, umm… no. lol
She’s going to just be a conversation piece, due to the pitmarks in the bottom, but she has been the talk of the town this past week!

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#7 posted 313 days ago

That’s a great result Deb. Well done!
How big was the cleanup afterwards?.

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#8 posted 313 days ago

Clean-up: difficulty? Not much … but then I’m using the molasses mixture for some other cast iron items, now that I know how easy the process was—and that it works.
(And then my neighbour wants to try it on some car parts, so he will be taking it off my hands, I think)

If he doesn’t take it I am going to empty the tub on a patch of sand that has been overtaken by weeds. I’m hoping that the molasses will kill off the weeds without any negative side-effects.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#9 posted 313 days ago

Amazing!
Great job.

-- Bert

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#11 posted 313 days ago

Hey Deb, don’t waste it.
Make some rum with the left overs. LOL.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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#12 posted 313 days ago

4 days? That’s slower than molasses !!

Did you feed the molasses to the cows after? Add a little iron to their diet?

Interesting the food material that will eat rust away.

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#13 posted 313 days ago

not sure the fermented, rusty concoction would be very good for consumption.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#14 posted 313 days ago

That turned out great. Never would have thought of molasses for rust removal. Yeah the concoction would be good for compost, but maybe not after auto parts went into it.

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#15 posted 313 days ago

as for how it works, I found this quote “What happens is there is a fermenting process and the sugars in molasses turns into acid, I am not sure which one but I think it may be lactic acid.”
Source

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#16 posted 313 days ago

re: compost, it apparently kills the roots of plants (and thus grass) and any critters/microbes that are in the soil.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#17 posted 313 days ago

Debbie,

You sure got EXCELLENT results from the process!

I have never seen that type of Molasses in that big of bag in my life!
... I wouldn’t know how to start to find it… (besides Google) LOL

Sounds like it might be very expensive…

Using Electrolysis isn’t dangerous! Just a 12v battery charger is all it takes…

In this particular case the electrodes for Electrolysis would have to reversed (because the POT wants to be the Subject… and suspend a hunk of iron in the middle for the other electrode… I think it would work good… and the biggest expense would be some Washing Soda and electricity… 12v charger…

Wasn’t that Molasses a little costly?
Where did you get it (kind of store)?

Thank you very much!

Your method worked GREAT… was NEW to me… I learned something!

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#18 posted 313 days ago

Very nice job MsDebbie! I had never heard of using molasses. Having use electrolysis on several hand planes, I will be sticking with that for for now… A couple of cups of Washing Soda in an 18gal container, two steel plates on the side and hanging the parts in the center hooked up to a battery charger works for me, as Joe points out.

I am afraid that the molasses concoction would be to popular for all of the wild critters we feed on a regular bases, and our cats would probably be overweight if I left something like that out too long… ;-)

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#19 posted 313 days ago

first of all your chastisement of not always being in a lumberjock mode…:).....and now your kudo’s for doing such a wonderful job, ive never heard of this process, and im so surprised it did so well, ive got a dutch oven that is in almost the same condition, so i guess i shall have to try this method myself, now…its time for a batch of beans, but make sure your outside when the beans are consumed…:)...at least that is how its got to be done in our family….:)

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#20 posted 313 days ago

Ms. Deb

I am not sure which one but I think it may be lactic acid

I believe the acid is actually Acetic acid….here’s a helpful link
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetic_acid
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Excellent work removing all that rust !

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#21 posted 313 days ago

Great tip. thanks

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#22 posted 313 days ago

I got the bag of dried molasses (animal feed grade) at the local feed store.
It cost me $20 and I barely made a dent in it with the 24 cups that I used. I’ll say it was a 10th of the bag but I doubt it was that much.

It is just another option that might come in handy some day…

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#23 posted 313 days ago

Beautiful job on the kettle Debbie and it was fun learning about the molasses. Thanks for including the explanation of how it works too. I will have to find something rusty to try it on.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#24 posted 312 days ago

Now that’s an interesting method. Results are great. We’ll have to try it when we get some more cast iron.
Thanks Debbie.

-- John, British Columbia, Canada

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#25 posted 312 days ago

thanks, re: Acetic acid

thanks stefang.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#26 posted 312 days ago

Nice recovery on the pot, any markings on it?

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#27 posted 312 days ago

Yes… first, it has the “gate mark” where the metal was poured. It is a line across the bottom.
And there is a .. 9 – 10 ?? Not quite sure.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#28 posted 312 days ago

Yes, I’ve used this. It works great, but be quick on oiling afterwards. You can also use Molassass from your grocery store.

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#29 posted 312 days ago

yes, the raw metal will start to rust immediately … just wipe it dry and have the oil handy.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#30 posted 310 days ago

WowZa, Deb! Awesome!

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#31 posted 310 days ago

thanks, Roger.

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