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Shop Clothing and Insects -- Bee Careful In the Shop

by HorizontalMike
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#1 posted 371 days ago

I have issues at times in my shop (outdoors). Mainly with spiders and ants. This past winter I did have a few mice visit me which was a first, but my fault for leaving birdseed out. I set a gauntlet of glue and spring traps and after the first week had no signs of mice. Never caught one in the spring traps but every glue trap had a mouse that got off. I could have made a small mouse coat from what was left on those stupid glue trap. However they haven’t returned since.

I have had bees fly in the shop but they usually just fly out or up towards the windows in the gable. Spiders and other insects I started spraying every other week and now have no issues. Keeping a shop clean seams to be the best solution for me. I now just keep a can of spray and hit the door area and any hard to reach places with spray every so often.

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#2 posted 371 days ago

I had to laugh at your Mounds bar reference HM. I had a bee fly inside my shirt a few weeks ago while I was driving. Not knowing what I should do I just smashed the sucker against my skin and withstood the bite. Its a pretty harrowing experience that I can relate to. Im glad your whole team made it out without any further injuries.

I get a few mice in the basement shop and a rouge fly here and there. I don’t do too much to deter them so no real help from me.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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HorizontalMike

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#3 posted 371 days ago

Oh I forgot to say, I did manage to take my newly cut shelf piece and fly-swatted the bee to the ground and step on it! Sweet (not sweat) revenge!

I do keep a can of 20ft wasp spray in the shop for those occasional nesters, but keep those pretty much under control.

Surprisingly, while I do get scorpions in the shop, I tend to find them smashed in the door frame of the walk-in door. I have had an couple of them drop on me as I entered the shop, but they always are in a hurry to hide and I haven’t gotten hit by one,... yet.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Mainiac Matt

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#4 posted 371 days ago

Bees and wasps are always a concern for me when doing construction type projects out of doors…. Not much that can be done besides keeping ones eyes and ears open and blasting the wasps nests with foam spray when found. The hornets that make ground nests are the worste, as I usually don’t find them untill I run them over wtih the tractor, and then it’s too late.

For the indoors shop environment, my chief concern is to not bring carpenter ants in the house, and brown recluse spiders. So I need to be careful to look over any lumber I bring in from the barn.

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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#5 posted 371 days ago

Almond Joy? I call mine the Three Musketeers.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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Sanding2day

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#6 posted 371 days ago

Pleased to hear that you made it through unharmed :) Utilizing my garage I continue to fight the good fight for shop space but have been lucky enough not to have a bee problem. The carpenter bees seem to prefer my midevil 2 by 4 fence locking brace.

I have put out the glue traps for mice, hung the dangling glue traps for flies, and caught a moth to feed a spider which has decided to make the shop his hunting ground… Have considered spraying the perimeter inside and out but have not had to significant of an issue with the insect population. Good luck…

-- Dan

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Don W

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#7 posted 371 days ago

Well, if nothing else I won’t be enjoying an almond joy any time soon.

Its kind of like riding with a full face helmet with the visor up. Those suckers don’t enjoy being trapped between your ear and the helmet any more than you do, except they have a way of letting you know.

I really don’t have any plan of action to talk about, but spraying bug repellent on your almond joy just doesn’t sound like an ideal plan either.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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crank49

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#8 posted 371 days ago

I feel your pain Mike. That’s exactly how I felt before the last couple of elections only my Almond Joy came out looking more like a Mounds. Figuratively speaking , of course.
Oh well, what the hell, it was just a job, and my entire retirement savings, and my home place of 35 years. I can always start over since I’m only 63.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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HorizontalMike

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#9 posted 371 days ago

EXACTLY Don,
Back in the late 70s I had a bee bounce off the bike’s windshield and land between the collar and the back of my neck. Managed to get the bike stopped and had to pull the stinger sac out myself, AFTER getting my riding gloves off!

Boy I’m glad I called it my Almond Joy and NOT my ‘crank’! The other Mike woulda’ ended up homeless AND frustrated! {sarcasm}

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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MaroonGoon

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#10 posted 371 days ago

I’m severely allergic to guinea wasps so I always keep a nice bottle of ‘Raid’ spray around when I am in the shop or in an area I know that is infested with them. Also, if I get stumped or frustrated in the shop, a good wasp hunting is a nice refresher ;)

-- "Only put off until tomorrow what you are willing to die having left undone." -- Pablo Picasso

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bowedstraight

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#11 posted 371 days ago

one those Chasity belt thingys or whatever u call it, that will keep Mr Goodbar comfy

-- Work in the city woodshop in tha country

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#12 posted 371 days ago

Mr. Goodbar. Excellent!

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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#13 posted 371 days ago

Hot weather aside, another reason why maybe going commando, isn’t really a good idea in the
shop. 8-)

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#14 posted 371 days ago

Geez guys, my desert menu is shrinking fast. I’m at a conference and one of the snacks in the lobby was roasted almonds. I just couldn’t touch them now.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Blackie_

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#15 posted 371 days ago

Mike this is real simple, insulate your shop/garage, put an AC in it and shut all doors :)

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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HorizontalMike

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#16 posted 371 days ago

”...Mike this is real simple, insulate your shop/garage, put an AC in it and shut all doors :)...”

If only Randy,... if only…

The best I an do is wait for winter. You know, when it only gets up to the mid-70s 8-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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kdc68

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#17 posted 371 days ago

Wasn’t the advertising slogan for Almond Joy…. “Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don’t”.... ??...This must apply for sweat bees too…;-)

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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bandit571

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#18 posted 371 days ago

Take a plastic pop bottle/water bottle,

right where the ’’ Barrel” of the body starts to curve towards the top

cut the top off, reverse it and install with the top inside the bottle

add a bit of either suger water, or some Mountain Dew, maybe 1/2” or so

sit on a shelf AWAY from where you will be working

despose of the filled bottle in the trash can, and make a new one as needed.

Bees, and other stingering pests will crawl down inside the trap, but they can’t get back out.

ps: keep the can/bottle you are drinking out capped/covered, so some of these pests don’t reside in them. nasty tasting if they do…..

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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HorizontalMike

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#19 posted 371 days ago

Yep @kdc68, it was. I just didn’t want to test that theory at the time. Geez, with Don at a conference and all, maybe we shouldn’t mention why avocados were given that name, especially if they were serving chips and guacamole… ;-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#20 posted 371 days ago

I’ve had to suck wasps into my shop vac before. Actually pretty effective way to get em’ quickly.

-- Allen, Colorado

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#21 posted 371 days ago

It does seem funny to have to think about this, but this, especially here in cen tex, is something you have to think of. We keep bug spray. but mostly, it is part of my mental saw routine…. the little check list I like to go through mentally when I step up to the saw… One of them is “stay calm if a bug comes at you, It will hurt less than the other option” It comes right after “don’t react if you get a splinter or a debris thrown at your face.”

I have also had the “Don’t lay your bike down” after getting stung by the yellow jacket inside the helmet experience. Funny how many have those to passions and problems in this thread.

-- Who is John Galt?

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firefighterontheside

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#22 posted 371 days ago

My biggest problem is wasps. They love to get into my shop, especially when it is hot out. They seem to be attracted to the hot surfaces outside and then make their way inside through little holes. I would say my best defense has been the same can of 20 foot spray and trying to seal the holes better.

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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#23 posted 371 days ago

Harbor Freight sells a garage door screen for 19.00 well worth it to keep the bugs out. Plus 20% off coupon

-- Coach Mancuso

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#24 posted 371 days ago

Hey Mike….I kind of had a feeling I knew what you were talking about when referring to your Almond Joy. My wife is American so I asked to confirm my suspicions and with a cheeky laugh she replied…”Almond Joy has nuts and Mounds don’t”....LOL or at least I think she was saying Mounds

-- Dave.......Keep calm and make more sawdust....

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exelectrician

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#25 posted 371 days ago

Depending on how old you are you can depend on depends, to keep you safe while you make the cut…...

-- Love thy neighbour as thyself

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#26 posted 371 days ago

I think that if I were resawing a board and a bee flew up my trousers, I would calmly turn the saw off , push the log into the blade to get the blade to stop quicker and then take care of the problem. It’s lots safer than trying to rush the cut.

-- Tyvekboy -- Marietta, GA

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#27 posted 371 days ago

Another reason not to wear shorts in the shop – now I have to worry about my Twinkie??
(Couldn’t help myself gents )

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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#28 posted 371 days ago

HM,I can’t stand scorpions,you talk about them like it’s no big deal, but I guess it is a common sight in hot climates like Texas,anyhow I would freak out if I see one in my shop.
Here I deal with bees and spiders ,the other day I had to destroy a bee nest,I wasn’t happy about it but it had to be done.

-- Ken from Ontario

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ChuckV

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#29 posted 371 days ago

Are you sure it was a sweat bee and not a polyester bee? Maybe the solution is to wrap your Almond Joy in cotton instead of polyester!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/metro/urban-jungle/pages/110315.html

-- “That it will never come again / Is what makes life so sweet. ” ― Emily Dickinson

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HorizontalMike

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#30 posted 370 days ago

tyvekboy: ”...I think that if I were resawing a board and a bee flew up my trousers, I would calmly turn the saw off , push the log into the blade to get the blade to stop quicker and then take care of the problem. It’s lots safer than trying to rush the cut….”

I would agree wholeheartedly if I had had the time to contemplate such an encounter, however an unexpected and unplanned assault on ones important parts leads to unexpected spontaneous reactions. Hence my sharing of this issue/post, so that other folks can think about these possibilities and actually plan out reaction strategies similar to what you suggest. Kind of like having a crisis management plan, if you will.

Until this happened to me, I would never have thought such a thing would or could be an issue. It was a definite wake-up call.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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IrreverentJack

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#31 posted 370 days ago

Hey Mike, Planning out reaction strategies and a having a crisis management plan are good ideas but I suggest you put off working commando till those bees start hibernating. -Jack

distrbd- Those are wasps or hornets not honey bees. Nuke em.

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Bluepine38

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#32 posted 370 days ago

My shop only gets into the mid 80’s, but shorts and a wicking t-shirt has the uniform of the day for a few weeks
now. The only invasion I have had was some newly fledged sparrows that just had to look over the shop for
a couple of days. Fortunately they did not make any deposits, were smart enough to remember where the
door was and flew back out without any trouble. We do not have sweat bees here, but I can remember them
when we stacked hay in July in eastern Montana. Not as bad as the horse flies, but still bad enough. Now I
just have to get my crisis management plan going. Probably include some Dragonsbreath, my current favorite
from one of our local breweries. Those flying pests were the reason my road bike had a nice fairing & tall windshield, but it did not do a good job of deflecting Bambi, as Mike said you just do not have time to form
a plan. The time to form a plan for draining the swamp is not when you are up to your ass in alligators.

-- As ever, Gus-the 75 yr young apprentice carpenter

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redSLED

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#33 posted 370 days ago

Your almond joy comment gave me the snickers.

-- Perfection is the difference between too much and not enough.

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#34 posted 370 days ago

I salt lake city Utah we are having the warmest summer ever recorded.
We have been the warmest or hottest city in the nation for the last week or two.

‘Mike this is real simple, insulate your shop/garage, put an AC in it and shut all doors :’
This is exactly what I did in my shop..

I do use steel toes all the time.
Mine are paid for my company and they are the most comfortable shoes I have ( Red Wings),Interestingly enough my company pay for any safety equipment I will use at home, as they say that they want us to be safe not only at work but everywhere we are.

-- Bert

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JoeinGa

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#35 posted 370 days ago

Hey Bert… Tell ‘em at work you need another new pair of RedWings for home …. Size 12 medium please :-)

I’ll send you my address :-)

-- Perform A Random Act Of Kindness Today ... Pay It Forward

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b2rtch

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#36 posted 370 days ago

joein10asee sorry but I do not cheat

-- Bert

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TheDane

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#37 posted 370 days ago

Bert—- Sounds like you have a first-rate employer!

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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b2rtch

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#38 posted 370 days ago

This is correct.
The very best I ever had.
I have excellent money and benefits ( no deductibles on anything, free medication), excellent working conditions. Two days vacation by pay period,ten paid holidays plus four floating holidays.
Paid 53 times a years ( twice a year we are paid three times in the same month)
I am absolutely blessed

-- Bert

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#39 posted 370 days ago

I’ve read that putting a bounce dryer sheet in your pocket repels wasps/bees.

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#40 posted 370 days ago

do they bounce back after biting?

-- Bert

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#41 posted 370 days ago

I’m one of those fortunate people who have never been stung by a wasp or bee (my brother was the opposite … if there was anything with a stinger within a mile, it was would be on him in a New York minute).

Wasps and bees creep my wife out, and we have a lot of spiders where we live, so a couple of times a year we do perimeter treatments around the house and shop with a bug killer from the BORG and keep cans of wasp killer handy.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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HorizontalMike

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#42 posted 370 days ago

DanK: ”...I’ve read that putting a bounce dryer sheet in your pocket repels wasps/bees….”

Yeah, that Almond Joy in the pocket sure doesn’t work that’s for sure! ;-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#43 posted 370 days ago

Yea, don’t put the almond joy in the dryer either.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#44 posted 370 days ago

My shop is in the basement for right now and is air conditioned. But outside I can usually get away from wasps and bees, swat them down or whatever, but last week I ran the weed eater right through a yellow jacket nest. The ones that live in a hole in the ground. Didn’t know I had knocked on their door until I started feeling pin pricks around my ankle and the bottom of my arm. Best clue to what was happening was when one of the little bombers popped me on the cheek. I had to leave the weed eater running on the ground to distract them and haul my butt into the house to get my shoe off. There were about 7 of those little buggers in my shoe.
After I killed the ones I had brought into the house I went back out to the nest hole and introduced the rest of the colony to Mr. Diazinon.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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#45 posted 370 days ago

The plans and reaction strategy tend to be forgotten when the bee gets in your shorts!

For the record, I do not own any short sleeved shirts or short pants (it’s against the “Code Of The West”!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#46 posted 370 days ago

You could always wrap big rubber bands around your leg kind of like a clamp to keep the bees away from your junk.

P.S. sorry I didn’t stick with the candy bar references I didn’t want to ruin anymore for Don

-- Nick, “Discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort.” ― Fred Rogers, Be My Neighbor

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#47 posted 370 days ago

So if we’re going to tell bug stories, I’ve. Been married over 35 years. And no that’s not the story. When I was dating my wife, we were helping a friend put hay in a barn. A praying mantis came up on a bale on the elevator. I was mowing the hay in the hay mow. Being smart, I decided to throw it at my wife (then girlfriend). I never expected her to catch it and throw it back. I stepped back to get out of the way, slipped, grabbed the end of the elevator and got my finger caught in the elevator. 36+ years later I still have the scar on my finger.

I’m not sure how, but the story just seemed to fit.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#48 posted 369 days ago

Dude, the rubber bands would work against the idea of air circulation to keep things cool, although Sandra’s
husband might appreciate the idea of short shorts. Don, some days it just does not pay to bug the women.
gfadvm, not counting gym and swim suits, I did not own any short pants growing up in eastern MT. Levis or
Wranglers were it, but we did go shirtless when it got hot and the shirts started to get those white salt
rings from sweat. Then I went away to college & got radical, I even tailor my cargo shorts with special
pockets for tape measures, pencils & cell phones. But I still have my Stetson & well broke in cowboy boots,
I can still think about riding rough stock, but well healed broken bones keep smart enough to behave.

-- As ever, Gus-the 75 yr young apprentice carpenter

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#49 posted 369 days ago

LOL! Almond Joy…..Three Musketeers….. All for one and one for all??? Heehee! LOL

Thanks for the laugh. Anyhow… I’m glad everything turned out ok. I have found a wasp nest in my shop as well. It’s kinda in a hard to reach place. I keep meaning to have some big strong man come over and spray it. I may be a woodworker, love power tools and races…. but I’m still a girl and spiders and bugs that sting or bite terrify me. I think that I’m going to have to just bite the bullet and do it.

I shared before the spider issue. Just a couple of days ago I went out and put a RidX thingy in my garage. I have two in my house and when I first got them for the house I had issues with spiders, crickets, ants and mice. Within two to four weeks my problem was gone and they haven’t returned. I have the occasional spider but not bad. After a bad storm came through and knocked some pretty huge limbs down I’ve had the tiny pesky ants but other than that it’s worked great. Look forward to seeing if it works in my garage.

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#50 posted 359 days ago

mike that’s too funny, I can’t comment anymore than what you’ve told.

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